http://www.firesociety.com FireSociety Forums - The FireWire - Breaking News Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:26:49 GMT admin@firesociety.com FireSociety 60 http://www.firesociety.com/images/home/mainlogo.gif http://www.firesociety.com http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/25585/Biggest-immig-raid-ever-much-worse-than-you-think/?src=103 Agriprocessors: A Blight on the Land The Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement detained 390 illegal immigrants May 13, 2008 in the largest single-site immigration raid in US history. The raid took place at Agriprocessors, Inc., the nation’s largest kosher meatpacking plant, located in the tiny town of Postville, Iowa. Federal officials have declined to comment about possible charges against the owners of Agriprocessors, and jaded Americans can be forgiven for assuming the employer will receive a slap on the wrist, if it receives any penalty at all. But before you shrug and move on, it’s worth noting that the feds aren’t following the typical routine around the Postville raid. There may yet be some arrests in the offing higher up the ladder, with serious felony charges to follow. There should be, anyway. The 390 detainees who were working in Agriprocessors’ slaughterhouse are the vanilla surface of a much darker story underneath—a deeply troubling story that demands the owners of Agriprocessors, among others, be prosecuted under the full weight of the law. If this story doesn’t end with significant prison sentences handed down, there is, as they say, no justice. An astonishing criminal enterprise I first picked up the Agriprocessors ... Tue, 20 May 2008 22:49:59 GMT CJBL http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/25585/Biggest-immig-raid-ever-much-worse-than-you-think/?src=103 http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/27253/The-Constitution-Of-The-United-States--Of-America/?src=103 HAPPY FOURTH EVERYONE  LET FREEDOM RING The Constitution of the United States Preamble Note We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility , provide for the common defence , promote the general Welfare , and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity , do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Article. I. - The Legislative Branch Note Section 1 - The Legislature All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives. Section 2 - The House The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature. No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen. ... Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:58:46 GMT Great Grampa http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/27253/The-Constitution-Of-The-United-States--Of-America/?src=103 http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/27207/Twelve-Steps-of-Illegal-Aliens-Anonymous/?src=103 Twelve Steps of Illegal Aliens Anonymous Wednesday, 02 July 2008 Satire by John W. Lillpop Alcoholic Anonymous has earned worldwide fame for its success in treating people afflicted with alcoholism. The heart of AA is the twelve step program which, when followed religiously, usually delivers the gift of sobriety. Illegal aliens are much the same as alcoholics; in fact, many invaders suffer from the disease. Because of the urgent need to rehabilitate these good hearted, hard working criminals, the steps of AA have been adopted to the lives and times of illegal aliens. As could be expected, the original version of the Twelve Steps of Illegal Aliens is in guttural Mexican, written and produced in San Francisco. What follows is an English translation, offered for the benefit of taxpayers that need to know how their money is being wasted on illegal aliens. TWELVE STEPS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS ANONYMOUS 1. We admitted we were powerless over our drive to violate US borders, language, and culture in order to invade America and change everything. 2. Came to believe that Deportations by a power greater than ourselves could be thwarted by moving to San Francisco and other bastions of anti-American liberal insanity known ... Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:54:42 GMT CJBL http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/27207/Twelve-Steps-of-Illegal-Aliens-Anonymous/?src=103 http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/27161/Dutch-Politician-Charged-For-Blasphemy-By-Jordan/?src=103 Report: Jordan Charges Dutch Politican With Blasphemy Tuesday, July 01, 2008 Dutch politician Geert Wilders was charged by a Jordanian prosecutor Tuesday with blasphemy and contempt of Muslims for making an anti-Koran film, and ordered to stand trial in Jordan, Reuters reported. The charges came one day after Dutch prosecutors decided they wouldn't take action against Wilders because he was protected by the right to free speech. An order was issued to bring Wilders to trial through the Dutch Embassy in Amman, Reuters reported. Wilders' film "Fitna," which appeared on the Internet on March 27, linked terror attacks by Muslim extremists to texts from the Koran, Islam's holy book. The Organization of the Islamic Conference, a league of 56 Muslim nations, said it was "deeply annoyed" by the Dutch decision, Reuters reported. "The decision ... encourages and supports the irresponsible defamatory style followed by some media outlets and instigates feelings of hatred, animosity and antipathy towards Muslims," the Saudi Arabia-based organization said in a statement, according to Reuters. The film set off protests in Pakistan, Malaysia and Indonesia and led to calls in other countries for a boycott of Dutch goods after its release.  The Dutch government has said it ... Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:49:29 GMT ConcernedMom http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/27161/Dutch-Politician-Charged-For-Blasphemy-By-Jordan/?src=103 http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/27063/An-Insult-to-the-Greatest-Generation--WWII-/?src=103 Hey gang, I first heard about this on RUSH. There is going to be a tv series all  next week on PBS starting monday june 30th ,called "The war of the world",there is three episodes of the so called new history of the 20th centry. It is by Harvard historian Niall ferguson. I encourage everyone to try to watch it, because sadly it looks like one of those how bad America is kind of thing and we need to defend her . If it is as bad as I think it might , I will E-mail PBS and let them have it. In my area it comes on at 10.00pm. Check your local listing. Moderators: Can you sticky this for a while? Thanks. Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:57:24 GMT California Refugee http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/27063/An-Insult-to-the-Greatest-Generation--WWII-/?src=103 http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/26892/Obama-Has-His-Own-Logo---Not-Legal---Looks-Too-Much-Like-The-Presidential-Seal-/?src=103 This is interesting and should be brought up!  They aren't even waiting for the election to plant the idea in the heads of his followers!  June 20, 2008 When the Obama logo and presidential seal collide The Obama campaign debuted a new logo Friday that bears a striking resemblance to the presidential seal. Photo credit: AP, White House. CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) – Presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama sat down in Chicago Friday morning to discuss the economy with visiting Democratic governors, but all eyes were on the Illinois senator's podium bearing, what might be described as, a quasi-presidential seal – a new Obama campaign logo. The seal includes the same bald eagle as the actual presidential seal clutching an olive branch and arrows in its talons, but instead of a shield covering the center of the eagle's body, the Obama version displays the campaign's trademark "O." Unlike the Presidential seal, which includes the words "Seal of the President of the United States" around the circumference, "Obama for America" and " www.barackobama.com " grace the top and bottom of Obama's. Finally, just above the eagle, in Latin, are the words – "vero possumus" – which translates to "yes we can," the oft-heard chant at ... Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:38:16 GMT Lady Jane http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/26892/Obama-Has-His-Own-Logo---Not-Legal---Looks-Too-Much-Like-The-Presidential-Seal-/?src=103 http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/25209/The-Real-I.D.-Act-Isn-t-What-They-Say-It-Is---Please-Act-Now--Big-Brother-Will-Be-Watching-You-/?src=103 I thought I would go a head and do a thread on the Real I.D. Act.  This is to show people what it is really about and I hope people will act on it.     Tell Senators Real ID is a Real Nightmare and Must be Repealed! Democratic and Republic Senators alike criticized the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) over DHS' forthcoming Real ID requirements at an April 29 Senate Subcommittee hearing. Chairman Akaka acknowledged in his opening statement that 'Real ID (poses) significant threats to American's privacy and civil liberties.' Continuing, the Chairman said, 'Real ID also (poses) significant challenges to the economy and travel industry...moreover, states are struggling to figure out how they are to pay for what is essentially an unfunded mandate.' Senators and invited witnesses alike spoke to the ongoing and significant failures of the program, including invasion of privacy, monstrous cost, States' rebellion, and technological failures. Rather than spend any more time, effort, and money on this abomination, it's time to just repeal the Real ID Act! DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff testified before a Senate Judiciary Committee oversight hearing on April 2 that it would be impossible for third parties to 'skim' personal information ... Fri, 09 May 2008 21:16:40 GMT Lady Jane http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/25209/The-Real-I.D.-Act-Isn-t-What-They-Say-It-Is---Please-Act-Now--Big-Brother-Will-Be-Watching-You-/?src=103 http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/26203/IRAN-ATTACK-/?src=103 Israeli minister says alternatives to attack on Iran running out Jun 6 03:36 AM US/Eastern An Israeli deputy prime minister on Friday warned that Iran would face attack if it pursues what he said was its nuclear weapons programme. "If Iran continues its nuclear weapons programme, we will attack it," said Shaul Mofaz, who is also transportation minister. "Other options are disappearing. The sanctions are not effective. There will be no alternative but to attack Iran in order to stop the Iranian nuclear programme," Mofaz told the Yediot Aharonot daily. He stressed such an operation could only be conducted with US support. A former defence minister and armed forces chief of staff, Mofaz hopes to replace embattled Ehud Olmert as prime minister and at the helm of the Kadima party. Copyright AFP 2008, AFP stories and photos shall not be published, broadcast, rewritten for broadcast or publication or redistributed directly or indirectly in any medium ** Gee, where have I heard this before?  Oh, yes -- it was when Israel pressured Bush to attack Iraq. Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:08:30 GMT Imafreeagent http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/26203/IRAN-ATTACK-/?src=103 http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/26811/Illegal-immigrants-in-prison-costing-state-millions-of-dollars/?src=103 Illegal immigrants in prison costing state millions of dollars June 19th, 2008 @ 12:37pm Becky Bruce reporting The state of Utah is spending nearly $8 million a year to keep 300 illegal immigrants in prison, but the numbers don't tell the whole story. Angie Welling, spokeswoman for the Utah Department of Corrections, says, " While it sounds like a lot of money, and certainly $8 million is a lot of money, in the overall scheme of things it's not as big as it may seem at first glance." The Utah Department of Corrections only got back about $550,000 from the federal government for locking up undocumented workers last year. But spokeswoman Angie Welling says it's only about 5 percent of the total inmate population, and the state prison treats them equally. She says, "They do their time. If ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) has placed a detainer on that person, they're deported once they've finished serving their time here in the state." Funding from the feds used to be much greater -- topping out at more than $2 million before 2001. Welling can't say for sure what changed, but she says one thing hasn't. "We will do what we need ... Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:49:27 GMT CJBL http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/26811/Illegal-immigrants-in-prison-costing-state-millions-of-dollars/?src=103 http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/27352/U.S.-congressional-approval-rate-reaches-new-record-low-9-per-cent/?src=103 U.S. congressional approval rate reaches new record low www.chinaview.cn 2008-07-09 05:01:59           Print      WASHINGTON, July 8 (Xinhua) -- U.S. congressional approval rate hit new lows in the recent polls, said a news website on Tuesday.     The latest Rasmussen poll conducted on July 1 showed that percentage of voters who give Congress good or excellent ratings fell to only single digits for the first time in the survey body's history, at 9 percent , while about 52 percent said Congress was doing a poor job, said the report by Politico website.     However, the approval rate of Democrats, who have a majority of seats in Congress, still led that of Republicans by 12 percentage points, it showed.     The lead was much wider in a NBC/Wall Street Journal poll conducted in mid-June, which found Democratic party beat Republican by 52 percent to 33 percent in supporting rate, Politico said.     The gap of 19 points was the largest recorded for either party since the question was first asked in 1994, it added.     It also said the poll results came as the nation suffered from a high gas prices and a sagging economy, in which public's ... Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:26:45 GMT (CM) theSuperPatriot http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/27352/U.S.-congressional-approval-rate-reaches-new-record-low-9-per-cent/?src=103