Why john McCain will fail to become president

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July 18, 2008 10:35 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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John McCain has betrayed conservatives and their causes too many times and now faces significant third party competition in a year that pundits believe the voters are leaning toward Democrats. Our national elections have been down the middle for a long time. Competitioin from Ralph Nader  changed the outcome and was the difference that gave Bush a very narrow victory. The conservative third party competition is stiffer this year and with Lou Dobbs having some 800,000 viewers a day, he is making inroads against both major parties. Although the national polling shows the race close, electoral college count state by state tells a somewhat different tale. There, Obama's lead seems bigger and the effect of third parties will be much bigger on the right this time than on the left.

July 18, 2008 10:56 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Third parties aren't strong at all this year and aren't really going to be much of a factor on either candidate.  Keep in mind, the debates haven't been held yet.  It will become clear then how inexperienced and wet behind the ears Obama is.  Clinton has not dropped her October surprise yet that we keep hearing about.  And Obama is scared poopless to have a town meeting type debate at Ft. Hood for the soldiers and their families, despite his claims to have more support from the military.  Don't be fooled by the MSM who will sell their soul to the devil to help install BO!


"A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders." Larry Elder
July 18, 2008 11:27 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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But so many of us just cannot stand McCain. I get a negative emotional reaction just hearing his voice or seeing his face. I guess that is what happens when politicians spend so much effort betraying their base. If you want to remain liked and respected by your base, being a maverick (I say renegade) on issues critical to the principles your base has is a sure fire way to lose the support of oh so many of us.

I learned a long time ago that one does not merely go neutral when one becomes dissatisfied, but goes into the opposition. This is why people switch party allegiences when they become disenchanted and do not remain on the sidelines. In our system, significantly sized voting blocks can and do effect the outcome of elections. RINOS aint welcome to my vote and I aint alone by a long shot which is what McCain made of his race for presdent.

July 18, 2008 11:30 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Yes, many, but not enough "many."  I know the feeling well, however.  I cringe...literally....whenever I see or hear Shrillary or Billary or Al Bore. 


"A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders." Larry Elder
July 18, 2008 11:35 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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If McCain fails to become President it have been done by the Spoilers.  You know, the usual suspects.


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July 18, 2008 11:45 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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A vote for McCain is a vote to take the next step toward this Country's demise.  But if Obama gets in - - that is taking a giant leap into oblivian for the Country.  So instead of a slower step by step change - it would be opting for a very sudden and thorough wipe out.

Personally I will vote for McCain no matter how distasteful - simply because that gives us more time to get the forces organized.

Pixie 




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July 18, 2008 11:49 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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It's a pretty good bet that McCain will win the Texas electoral votes.  My vote or lack thereof isn't going to make a difference in the outcome.  I only hope it sends a signal to the republican party in Texas and nationally.  It's an election.  There is a winner and a loser.  If McCain loses it is because he was less compelling to more people than Obama.  Neither is very compelling, which is why we are all sick about the choice we have.  It is what it is and we need to get over it.  We all better focus on what we will do when the election is over and Bush is replaced by either of those guys.  One of them is going to win and neither of them is going to make us happy.  Sean Hannity is pretty optimistic ( I would say delusional) if he believes he will agree with McCain most of the time.  The best I am hoping for is that whoever wins, they will be unable to accomplish anything they want whether due to Congressional obstruction or some other means.  That is indeed a sorry way to view the political environment we are in.  It is too easy to play Chicken Little and worry about the immediate election.  Conservatives and constitutionalists who want to go back to the days of liberty and meritocracy better begin to think strategically and longer term.


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July 18, 2008 11:54 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I read John McCain's book called, "Why Courage Matters". 

Even though I never have really liked him, and still don't, I do however think that deep inside, when he isn't flailing about looking for some sort of political attention, will listen to the voice of the people and have courage to stand up for what the office means.  Being a leader brings out somethings in people that we don't recognize right off, and hopefully that will happen with McCain.  I think that his book shows a little more of what is really inside John McCain than he shows us when the world, or the other senators, are watching.

It can also bring out things that we DO recognize right off, such as the case of Obama.  I see him being like the cute puppy that we just can't do without, and then it grows into this ugly ass dog that nobody likes, and it won't go away.  It gets hit by a car, kicked by the mule, accidentally shot, and it just won't go away.....  If Obama is president, any question of his authority will be considered racist.  He will have people out doing his dirty work for them, then distance himself from their words and acts.  I do question his patriotism, I do question the motives of his crazy ass wife, I do question his relations with his pastor and terrorist friends, and I question why somebody who has as little experience as he has would want to be president.  I bet if you took out all the time he has spent running for president, all the times he has been absent for votes in the senate, he probably hasn't been on the job for more than 150 days.  So tell me why somebody with only that much experience would think they should sit as commander in chief of the world's most powerful nation. 

If we spend our time exploring third party candidates, that's who we will get.  I'm not that old, but old enough to know that no write in, independent, green party, whatever party has ever succeded.  Too many of them come across as whacko nut jobs like Bo Gritz and Ross Perot to get any serious national support. 

As discouraging as it is, we have to support McCain and hold his feet to the fire as a conservative and make our voices heard. 




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July 18, 2008 11:56 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Patriot's Pixie said:

A vote for McCain is a vote to take the next step toward this Country's demise.  But if Obama gets in - - that is taking a giant leap into oblivian for the Country.  So instead of a slower step by step change - it would be opting for a very sudden and thorough wipe out.

Personally I will vote for McCain no matter how distasteful - simply because that gives us more time to get the forces organized.

Pixie 

 

It also gives more time for the opposition forces to get organized.  The over used analogy of the frog in the kettle seems so apt.  Every time we choose the lesser of evils, we don't ever follow up and regroup for the next election.  We simply slide further into the abyss.  If we got a nut case like Obama in there, it would indeed be a wake-up call and maybe it would lead to serious house cleaning.  We have the internet and a whole lot of guns in this country.  I just can't picture Obama taking us in 1 term where we couldn't recover.  I expect we will end up in the same state whether Obama or McCain are elected.  Only with McCain being in office, the MSM will convince the sheeple that it was him and by extension republicans and by extension conservatives and Christians who have wrecked the country rather than liberals and their pawns.


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July 18, 2008 12:03 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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If something bad happens whether Obama or McCain is in the White House, republicans will get the blame.  On the other hand, if something GOOD happens, with either one, it will be all thanks to the democrats!  At least, that's how the drive bys will spin it.


"A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders." Larry Elder
July 18, 2008 12:04 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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FeedFwd -

I was not referring to getting organized for a "next election"  - - - that is  - - not unless you mean voting with lead instead of paper or electronics.

 Pixie




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July 18, 2008 12:06 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Don't worry, McCain will win.

The media will lead the sheeple down the McCain warmonger path, and they will follow. (or the "terrorists" will "get them")

Either Obama or McCain, we get a huge bloated federal government and destruction of our monetary system. 

Nice legacy to leave for the next generation. 

July 18, 2008 12:08 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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If the republicans control neither the Congress nor the White House, the MSM can say what the will, but even the sheeple in America should see through it.  You can only blame things on Bush/Cheney/Rove for so long.  Eventually Bush Derangement Syndrome will end or people will begin demanding that the infected get treatment... preferably a lobotomy.

The silver lining is that talk radio, until it is outlawed, will be as entertaining as ever!

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July 18, 2008 12:24 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Patriot's Pixie said:

FeedFwd -

I was not referring to getting organized for a "next election"  - - - that is  - - not unless you mean voting with lead instead of paper or electronics.

 Pixie

 

You have my support, but if we haven't been able to organize even for the next election, I hold little hope of organizing anything grander.

LBJ led to Nixon - there may have been some bright spots in the Nixon administration, but it set back the conservative movement and the republican party.  And even after LBJ, Congress couldn't be changed.

Carter led to Reagan - one bright spot, but Congress couldn't be changed and it was only the charisma of Reagan that allowed anything to be accomplished.  He was hogtied the whole time he was in office by an adversarial congress.  Republicans were carried by him and did little organizationally to increase liberty and restrain government intervention. 

Clinton led to Bush II - he had his moments and some potential, but we can see where it is leading.  Thanks to the rise of the internet and talk radio, the republicans actually gained complete control of Congress.  But sadly, they betrayed the people as badly as democratic liberals.  If having a republican congress means more deviants in congress and pork transferring from West Virginia to Alaska, then what is the point?

The lure of politics is power, influence, and wealth.  Until we find a way to constrain the federal government within the framework of the constitution, things will continue to deteriorate.  Every new law passed to try and limit the power and influence of government and lobbyists (such as McCain Feingold) is really a deceitful effort to further protect the incumbency of current members of the political class.




"There is only one difference between a bad economist and a good one: The bad economist confines himself to the visible effect; the good economist takes into account both the effect that can be seen and those effects that must be foreseen." -- Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850) "In general, Democrats are the only real reason to vote for Republicans." -- Thomas Sowell FeedFwd: a born again coonass trapped in Austin, TX, USA

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