Did you know that "hispanics" discovered Florida ?

 http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2008/06/proposed_licens.php    But on further review.....  Try John Cabot and his son In 1497        http://www.broward.org/library/bienes/lii14004.htm

Did you know that the original thirteen colonies were not hispanic? Did you know that US culture developed until the last forty years without much significant effect by hispanics on the overall culture? Did you know that a huge number (millions)of hispanics in this country were or are illegal immigrants or the children or grand children of illegal immigrants? Do you know how much respect this costs the hispanics of this country? Did you know that respect begins with respect for the laws and culture of a nation and ends when a nation's culture, laws, and sovereignty are not respected by members of another nation who think they are entitled to take what they want.  Did those hispanics who discovered Florida find the fountain of youth they were searching for? Should  our marines go searching for treasure in Mexico City? They were there in 1846 and left. Do they need to return? Our country is more than a treasure chest to plunder and those who come over the border illegally need to break the laws in their own nation instead of ours. Viva la Revolucion in Mexico!

John Wunderlich said: Did you know that the original thirteen colonies were not hispanic? Did you know that US culture developed until the last forty years without much significant effect by hispanics on the overall culture? Did you know that a huge number (millions)of hispanics in this country were or are illegal immigrants or the children or grand children of illegal immigrants? Do you know how much respect this costs the hispanics of this country? Did you know that respect begins with respect for the laws and culture of a nation and ends when a nation's culture, laws, and sovereignty are not respected by members of another nation who think they are entitled to take what they want.  Did those hispanics who discovered Florida find the fountain of youth they were searching for? Should  our marines go searching for treasure in Mexico City? They were there in 1846 and left. Do they need to return? Our country is more than a treasure chest to plunder and those who come over the border illegally need to break the laws in their own nation instead of ours. Viva la Revolucion in Mexico!

John,please read all the links and you will understand that I posted this "SARCASTICALLY".....    I'm on your side Bro......      The official records that indicate a "SPANIARD" discovered Florida are In dispute here. According to the article that I have linked to, Florida was actually discovered by  John Cabot........     http://etext.virginia.edu/journals/EH/EH33/croxto33.html

Sorry, I thought you may have been here for other reasons since you are a new member. Welcome to FireSociety and hope to get to know you through your posts.

I've never quite undertood the obsession with who set-foot on a piece of property first, and certainly not in a historical context.

There is evidence contained in historical narrative mythologies dating from the Egyptian Second Dynastic Period that sailors from lands adacent to the Mediterrean Sea visited what we now call North and South America. Artifacts found in long-abandoned Incan, Mayan, Toltec, and Olmec sites are clearly of pre-Roman origin indicating some, minimal at least, trade existed at one time or another between the peoples of Central & upper South America and Mediterrean peoples.

Other artifacts noted by Cortez and others among the Conquistadores appear to be have been of Estruscan, Roman and North African (possibly Berber) origin. Unfortunately, the artifacts were likely looted by the Spaniards and have since disappeared -- and are possibly at the bottom of the Caribbean among the wreckage of hundreds of Spanish and later Portugese ships that sank in the region's fierce storms.

There is a Norse legend based on the many Viking-Dane-Norwegian expeditions to North America which indicates that Danish Vikings visited a semi-tropical part of the "Green Coast" after a voyage south of many weeks from the area they called 'Vinland," now known to be Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, Canada.

During and immediately after the Western European Renaissance sailors from Spain, Portugal, Britain, Holland, France and even Italy made voyages to various parts of the North American Eastern Seaboard before any Western European nation ever established a functioning, self-sustaining colony on this continent.

In the view of many historians and anthropologists proof of "discovery" is actually dependent upon developments often far-afield from initial physical presence...discoveries such as cartography methodologies for depicting the route and documenting shorelines and landmarks; advances in navigation that made replicating sailing routes possible and routine; and other technologies that enabled small, isolated populations to adapt and build viable communities in territories often quite different from the homeland in temperature, weather patterns, animal life, and so on.

It is entirely possible that Cabot's visit to what is now Florida pre-dated that of Ponce de Leon, but it was the Spanish whose accumulation of technologies made successful occupation of the area a fact. If having the right technologies and applying them to the colonization are the criteria upon which "discovery" are based then clearly, the Spanish "discovered" Florida and the North Shore coast of the Gulf of Mexico.

So advanced was Spanish maritime and colonial technology that St. Augustine, Florida was founded nearly a century before the ill-fated Jamestown settlement in Virginia.

Finally, European Spaniards are not Hispanic.

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John Wunderlich said: Did you know that the original thirteen colonies were not hispanic? Did you know that US culture developed until the last forty years without much significant effect by hispanics on the overall culture? Did you know that a huge number (millions)of hispanics in this country were or are illegal immigrants or the children or grand children of illegal immigrants? Do you know how much respect this costs the hispanics of this country? Did you know that respect begins with respect for the laws and culture of a nation and ends when a nation's culture, laws, and sovereignty are not respected by members of another nation who think they are entitled to take what they want.  Did those hispanics who discovered Florida find the fountain of youth they were searching for? Should  our marines go searching for treasure in Mexico City? They were there in 1846 and left. Do they need to return? Our country is more than a treasure chest to plunder and those who come over the border illegally need to break the laws in their own nation instead of ours. Viva la Revolucion in Mexico!

 

John, none the less ,that was awesom what you wrote.

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jColes said:

I've never quite undertood the obsession with who set-foot on a piece of property first, and certainly not in a historical context.

There is evidence contained in historical narrative mythologies dating from the Egyptian Second Dynastic Period that sailors from lands adacent to the Mediterrean Sea visited what we now call North and South America. Artifacts found in long-abandoned Incan, Mayan, Toltec, and Olmec sites are clearly of pre-Roman origin indicating some, minimal at least, trade existed at one time or another between the peoples of Central & upper South America and Mediterrean peoples.

Other artifacts noted by Cortez and others among the Conquistadores appear to be have been of Estruscan, Roman and North African (possibly Berber) origin. Unfortunately, the artifacts were likely looted by the Spaniards and have since disappeared -- and are possibly at the bottom of the Caribbean among the wreckage of hundreds of Spanish and later Portugese ships that sank in the region's fierce storms.

There is a Norse legend based on the many Viking-Dane-Norwegian expeditions to North America which indicates that Danish Vikings visited a semi-tropical part of the "Green Coast" after a voyage south of many weeks from the area they called 'Vinland," now known to be Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, Canada.

During and immediately after the Western European Renaissance sailors from Spain, Portugal, Britain, Holland, France and even Italy made voyages to various parts of the North American Eastern Seaboard before any Western European nation ever established a functioning, self-sustaining colony on this continent.

In the view of many historians and anthropologists proof of "discovery" is actually dependent upon developments often far-afield from initial physical presence...discoveries such as cartography methodologies for depicting the route and documenting shorelines and landmarks; advances in navigation that made replicating sailing routes possible and routine; and other technologies that enabled small, isolated populations to adapt and build viable communities in territories often quite different from the homeland in temperature, weather patterns, animal life, and so on.

It is entirely possible that Cabot's visit to what is now Florida pre-dated that of Ponce de Leon, but it was the Spanish whose accumulation of technologies made successful occupation of the area a fact. If having the right technologies and applying them to the colonization are the criteria upon which "discovery" are based then clearly, the Spanish "discovered" Florida and the North Shore coast of the Gulf of Mexico.

So advanced was Spanish maritime and colonial technology that St. Augustine, Florida was founded nearly a century before the ill-fated Jamestown settlement in Virginia.

Finally, European Spaniards are not Hispanic.

   I agree wholeheartedly with your last statement,  "European Spaniards are NOT Hispanic !!!   That was my whole point bro...........

John Wunderlich said: Did you know that the original thirteen colonies were not hispanic? Did you know that US culture developed until the last forty years without much significant effect by hispanics on the overall culture? Did you know that a huge number (millions)of hispanics in this country were or are illegal immigrants or the children or grand children of illegal immigrants? Do you know how much respect this costs the hispanics of this country? Did you know that respect begins with respect for the laws and culture of a nation and ends when a nation's culture, laws, and sovereignty are not respected by members of another nation who think they are entitled to take what they want.  Did those hispanics who discovered Florida find the fountain of youth they were searching for? Should  our marines go searching for treasure in Mexico City? They were there in 1846 and left. Do they need to return? Our country is more than a treasure chest to plunder and those who come over the border illegally need to break the laws in their own nation instead of ours. Viva la Revolucion in Mexico!

 

Very well put John.......   

This is a blatant attempt to corrupt history. But what is to be expected from a group of corrupt and corrupted people, with a few exceptions of course. 

 I live in Florida and I spent hours on the phone yesterday, starting with the governor and on down the list. Every person I talked to was shocked when they pulled up the article.

From the reaction I got on the phone I seriously doubt that this plate or anything similar will make it to the back of any Florida automobile.