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June 19, 2008 08:52 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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McCain promises immigration reform
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 June 19, 2008, 11:53
NUEVA YORK.- El candidato republicano a la Casa Blanca senador John McCain, prometió que de ganar la contienda, un día después de su juramentación como nuevo presidente de los Estados Unidos, urgirá al Congreso convertir en ley de inmediato la anhelada reforma migratoria.

New York .- The Republican candidate for the White House Senator John McCain, who promised to win the contest, one day after his swearing as new president of the United States, urge the Congress to immediately convert into law the long-awaited immigration reform.

El candidato que aparece hoy ocho puntos por debajo de su rival demócrata Barack Obama, hizo el pronunciamiento en una entrevista que concedió al diario hispano La Opinión de Los Angeles.

The candidate who appears now eight points below his rival Democrat Barack Obama, made the pronouncement in an interview he gave to Spanish newspaper La Opinion of Los Angeles.

Dijo no creer que su posición relativa al tema migratorio vaya a restarle votos a su carrera presidencial. He said not to believe that his position on the issue of migration will diminish their votes in presidential race.

McCain dijo que es totalmente falso que haya abandonado su compromiso original de luchar por la reforma para los más de 12 millones de inmigrantes indocumentados que residen en los Estados Unidos y que incluye como la propuesta fracasada del presidente Bush, asegurar primero las fronteras.

McCain said that is absolutely false that has abandoned its original commitment to fight for reform for more than 12 million undocumented immigrants residing in the United States and that includes the failed proposal from President Bush, the first securing the borders.

"Esa reforma será prioritaria en mi administración porque es una responsabilidad federal convincente", precisó el aspirante del Partido Republicano.

"This reform will be a priority in my administration because it is a federal responsibility convincing," said the candidate of the Republican Party.

"Abordaremos la reforma migratoria y al día siguiente de mi inauguración (juramentación), le pediré al Congreso que la reconsidere, aunque creo que primero tenemos que asegurar nuestras fronteras, poner en marcha un plan de trabajadores huéspedes que funciones y enfocar el tema de los indocumentados de una manera humana y compasiva".

"Addressing immigration reform and the day after my inauguration (swearing), I ask Congress to reconsider it, but I think that first we must secure our borders, implement a guest worker plan that functions and approach the issue of Undocumented a humane and compassionate manner ".

La propuesta migratoria de McCain es considerada por sus adversarios demócratas como "copia al carbón" de la de Bush, pero McCain sostiene que lo más apropiado sería que sean los hispanos quienes hagan las preguntas acerca de lo que les interesa y no los discursos de los candidatos.

The proposal migratory McCain is seen by Democrats as their adversaries "to carbon copy" of Bush, but McCain argues that it would be more appropriate are Hispanics who do questions about what interests them and not the speeches of the candidates.

El senador que en su última reelección al congreso recibió más del 70% de los votos hispanos como legislador federal por Arizona, aparece casi 20 puntos porcentuales por debajo de Obama en los recientes sondeos sobre la intención del voto latino".

The senator who in his last reelection to Congress received more than 70% of Hispanic votes as a federal legislator Arizona, appears almost 20 percentage points below Obama in recent polls on the intention of the Latino vote. "

"Estoy muy orgulloso de haber recibido más del 70% del voto de la comunidad hispana en mi última reelección", dijo el senador. "I'm very proud to have received more than 70% of the votes of the Hispanic community in my last election," said the senator.

El aspirante a la Casa Blanca fue veterano de la guerra de Vietnam y estuvo cinco años en una cárcel de ese país como prisionero de guerra, cree que arriesgó su carrera política frente a los conservadores desde que decidió respaldar una reforma migratoria a favor de los indocumentados, siendo co autor del proyecto sometido por el senador Edward Kennedy de Massachussets.

The aspirant to the White House was a veteran of the Vietnam War and spent five years in a prison in that country as a prisoner of war, cree que risked his political career in front of the conservatives since he decided to support an immigration reform in favor of the undocumented , Co author of the draft being submitted by Senator Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts.

Esa reforma, la viene promoviendo McCain incluso, desde que se lanzó como pre candidato republicano a la Casa Blanca, después que la propuesta fuera rechazada por el senado en Washington.

Such reform, even McCain has been promoting, since it was launched as a pre Republican candidate to the White House after the proposal was rejected by the Senate in Washington.

Muchos activistas latinos y el propio Obama le endilgan a McCain haber dado la espalda a su propio plan migratorio. Many Latino activists and Obama himself endilgan him to McCain have turned their backs on their own immigration plan.

"Eso es simplemente falso. He trabajado muy duro por esa reforma migratoria, pero fracasamos porque los estadounidenses quieren que la frontera se asegure primero", aclaró McCain.

"That is simply untrue. I've worked very hard for that immigration reform, but failed because the Americans want the border is secure first," explained McCain.

Y sobre las acusaciones que le hacen los demócratas de que posible gobierno suyo, sería exactamente la continuidad del de George W. And on the accusations that the Democrats will make it possible for his government, it would be exactly the continuity of George W. Bush, rechazó la imputación y dijo que si eso pudiera ser así, "el de Obama sería un retroceso a la época demócrata de Jimmy Carter en el que se implementarían las políticas fallidas de un gobierno masivo y de impuestos altos de los años sesentas y setentas".

Bush rejected the accusation and said that if that might be so, "the Obama would be a throwback to the era of Democrat Jimmy Carter in which they implement the failed policies of a massive government and high taxes of the sixties and seventies ".

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June 19, 2008 09:06 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Is anyone surprised?


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June 19, 2008 09:15 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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McCain has never tried to hide the fact he wants amnesty for illegals (present and future.)

Problem is, the big O wants the same !  Now what ? Can we get enough third party votes to stop this?

We will have to agree fairly soon with other groups in America on a third party candidate. There are millions of voters who want nothing to do with these two . If there was ever a chance of a third party candidate actually being elected, this is it !  It may be our last chance America..

June 19, 2008 09:40 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Hang on before you all go ballistic including me. Where did you get this CJ? Your links don't work. They come up as errors. Please enlighten me.

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June 19, 2008 10:13 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Whether McCain pushes for amnesty on day 1 or day 10, he's going to push it and with a solid liberal majority in Congress, he's going to get it done.  So will Obama.  Even a third party candidate will be unable to stop it as the libs will have enough to override a veto.  It's going to get real ugly real quick on the illegal immigration front regardless of whom is in the White House.
June 20, 2008 09:33 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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billbrady said: Whether McCain pushes for amnesty on day 1 or day 10, he's going to push it and with a solid liberal majority in Congress, he's going to get it done.  So will Obama.  Even a third party candidate will be unable to stop it as the libs will have enough to override a veto.  It's going to get real ugly real quick on the illegal immigration front regardless of whom is in the White House.

 

   You have no idea how ugly it is going to get and very very soon ,even before the elections.

  When the Marines are having urban war exercises in our city streets (and they are) even the stupidest among us can no longer deny.The troops will be coming to take your guns and silence you.

  It is not going the governments way and you know what happens then. Martial law will be imposed to silence the more vocal among us,people will simply dissapear and the cowards will scurry home and deny they ever had a bad thought or spoke a bad thought. People will start to live in fear and will turn in their neighbor over a comment made while playing their weekly game of cards.

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June 20, 2008 10:43 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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billbrady said: Whether McCain pushes for amnesty on day 1 or day 10, he's going to push it and with a solid liberal majority in Congress, he's going to get it done.  So will Obama.  Even a third party candidate will be unable to stop it as the libs will have enough to override a veto.  It's going to get real ugly real quick on the illegal immigration front regardless of whom is in the White House.

 

Yep, this is true, that is why we have to make sure we support the candidates for house and senate who are anti-amnesty, anti illegals REGARDLESS OF PARTY!  There are too many retiring from the house/senate who share our views, I think including Tancredo....so, we have to make sure we have enough of them elected to stop any potential amnesty bills!!  I am VERY serious about this--the white house is lost to us via the horrible choice in candidates, but, we all have to take the fight to the house/senate members now!

AMERICA FIRST -- PARTY SECOND!!!




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June 20, 2008 11:22 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Aren't McAmnesty and that Obama freak supporting "comprehensive immigration reform"? Exactly what does that mean?

Either way we are screwed. I don't give a rats behind how my vote affects the outcome, I truely don't think it will matter. Not to get off the subject, but I will anyway because this is important to ME. I hear those that are concerned about whom will be selected as supreme court justices as if McAmnesty will select the right people. How in the hell do they know that. He is wishy-washy about Roe vs Wade , who in their right mind thinks this nut will select the right individuals to overturn this?

My conscience will not allow me to do anything but go outside the box.

June 20, 2008 11:30 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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More Pandering!  Call his campaign headquarters and voice your outrage. 703 418 2008


 
McCain meets with Hispanic leaders
 
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CHICAGO (AP) - Republican presidential John McCain assured Hispanic leaders he would push through Congress legislation to overhaul federal immigration laws if elected, several people who attended a private meeting with the candidate said Thursday.

Democrats questioned why the Arizona senator held the meeting late Wednesday night in Chicago. But supporters who were in the room denied that McCain held the closed-door session out of fear of offending conservatives, many of whom want him to take a harder line on immigration.

Both McCain and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama support giving legal status to millions of illegal immigrants, but neither has made the issue a centerpiece of the campaign. At one time, McCain's campaign suffered because of his stance on the issue.

"This was not a secret meeting," said Rafael Rivadeneira, a vice chairman of the Republican National Hispanic Assembly of Illinois, who was among more than 150 Chicago-area Hispanic leaders who attended. "There was nothing he said that they wouldn't want people to hear."

Other attendees said they were not so sure.

"He's one John McCain in front of white Republicans. And he's a different John McCain in front of Hispanics," complained Rosanna Pulido, a Hispanic and conservative Republican who attended the meeting.

Pulido, who heads the Illinois Minuteman Project, which advocates for restrictive immigration laws, said she thought McCain was "pandering to the crowd" by emphasizing immigration reform in his 15-minute speech.

"He's having his private meetings to rally Hispanics and to tell them what they want to hear," she said. "I'm outraged that he would reach out to me as a Hispanic but not as a conservative."

After the event, McCain met privately with Martin Sandoval, an Illinois state senator and Democratic convention delegate for former candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton. Sandoval said he left open the possibility of backing McCain, citing his immigration stance and pledge to keep business taxes low.

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700club said:

Aren't McAmnesty and that Obama freak supporting "comprehensive immigration reform"? Exactly what does that mean?

Either way we are screwed. I don't give a rats behind how my vote affects the outcome, I truely don't think it will matter. Not to get off the subject, but I will anyway because this is important to ME. I hear those that are concerned about whom will be selected as supreme court justices as if McAmnesty will select the right people. How in the hell do they know that. He is wishy-washy about Roe vs Wade , who in their right mind thinks this nut will select the right individuals to overturn this?

My conscience will not allow me to do anything but go outside the box.

 

I agree completely, 700.   McCain has made too many friends on the other side of the isle.  He is not going to risk having them reject his appointments, and he will be just like Dubya on immigration reform.

Don't they get it?  WE THE PEOPLE do not want reform, we want ENFORCEMENT and we want it NOW!

One thing for sure; when we vote third party, or undervote, or as too many are saying "just stay home" and Obama sails into the oval office, it will pull conservatives together and we will have lots of company from the democrats.

We cannot have people staying home because they do not like the top of the ticket.  We must get 41 patriot senator's butts in those seats on capitol hill.

 




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June 20, 2008 12:47 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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msbobbie:

People simply cannot stay home in November. Somehow a statement has got to be made like any of the spoiled brats will notice. Still, just swallow the pill, put the gas mask on , whatever,  and vote third party for whomever your state will "allow" on the ballot.

I am committed to third party this time around. I don't need a gas mask to vote third party. Regardless, I can only assume I would end in jail showing up to vote wearing a gas mask!  

June 20, 2008 01:28 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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McCain Meets With Hispanic Leaders
2008-06-20 06:00am

Sen. John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee-in-waiting, met privately with Hispanic leaders last Wednesday evening in Chicago, promising to overhaul federal immigration laws if elected.

Many who attended the meeting said McCain did not hold it late and in private out of fear of offending conservatives who want him to take a harder line on illegal immigration, The Associated Press reported.

Both he and Democratic rival Sen. Barack Obama both favor granting legal status to millions of illegal aliens, but neither has made the issue a cornerstone of their campaign. For his part, McCain has expressed support for a plan initially offered by President Bush that affords illegal aliens an opportunity to earn legalized status in the U.S.

Some who attended thought McCain was pandering to Hispanics, while others said they didn't see it that way.

"He's having his private meetings to rally Hispanics and to tell them what they want to hear," Rosanna Pulido, a Hispanic and conservative Republican who heads the Illinois Minuteman Project, told AP. "I'm outraged that he would reach out to me as a Hispanic but not as a conservative."

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McCain Double-Talk on Immigration?
June 20, 2008 12:26 PM

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., met Wednesday evening with Hispanic Republicans in Chicago.

In an Associated Press story about the meeting, one quote jumped out at me: "He's one John McCain in front of white Republicans. And he's a different John McCain in front of Hispanics," Rosanna Pulido, a Latina who heads the Illinois Minuteman Project, told the AP. "He's having his private meetings to rally Hispanics and to tell them what they want to hear," she said. "I'm outraged that he would reach out to me as a Hispanic but not as a conservative."

Pulido seemed to be in a rather interesting position to talk about McCain and immigration, so I gave her a call.

An advocate and escort for seniors professionally, Pulido told me that she's one of the original Minutemen who stood on the border between Arizona and Mexico in 2005 and she's also Illinois spokesperson for "You Don't Speak For Me, American Hispanics Speaking Out On Illegal Immigration."

Her parents were from Mexico, but she was born in the U.S. (She spent a year in Mexico in the 1980s as a Christian missionary.) Pulido says her activism against illegal immigration stems from her Christian belief system and sense of right and wrong, as well as the unmet needs she sees in the senior population through her work.

"What they're doing is stealing from the American people," she says of illegal immigrants.

Pulido found out about the McCain meeting from a local newspaper, the Beacon News. She called the McCain campaign contact and let them know where she stood on the issue of illegal immigration, but said as a conservative and a Hispanic, she wanted to attend the meeting. She was curious as to what McCain was going to say.

"I have friends in Washington, DC, on this issue," she says. "We've had conversations on this issue." After comprehensive immigration reform was killed in the Senate and McCain changed his rhetoric on the subject on the campaign trail, Pulido says, "we were hopeful after John McCain started saying, 'I understand where the American people are coming from, there's gotta be enforcement first,' we thought great, he's had a change of heart."

So she went to the meeting, a room full of 150-200 people. "Sure enough," Pulido says, "his mantra at the meeting was comprehensive immigration reform.' And there were cheers and applause whenever he mentioned comprehensive immigration reform."

"Then he said, 'I bet some of you don't know this -- did you know Spanish was spoken in Arizona before English?' And the crowd roared. I was appalled," Pulido said. "He was pandering to these people -- that's what they wanted to hear."

The meeting was jammed up because McCain had attended the Tim Russert funeral that day, and had a fundraiser to attend. He was about 45 minutes late, and only spoke for approximately 15 minutes, she recalls. Originally the plan was for him to take questions, but there didn't appear to be time, she said.

Which is just as well, as far as she was concerned. "The truth of the matter is, I was in the room with 150-to-200 people, and if I'd spoken out I would have been disruptive, which was not what I wanted to do."

"He was telling one group of people one thing and the Hispanics another," says Pulido. "I'm a conservative and I think he's throwing conservatives under the bus."

Pulido doesn't know who she will vote for and says she may not know until election day. Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, is not an option. "I'd never ever vote for Barack Obama," she says. "He was an Illinois state senator and unlike the rest of the nation, I know who Barack Obama is, he's too liberal for me."

What she saw of John McCain Wednesday night, however, makes her inclined right now to support Constitution Party candidate Chuck Baldwin.
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 Deerhunter, You know what I'm thinking, so WHERE CAN WE GO FROM HERE? I have an open mind to some issues, but some - well, there just is no wiggle room. No one seems to be ready to explode just yet, but the time is coming where there is no alternative. Rhonda
June 20, 2008 03:53 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I think people are waiting til after the Conventions; Democrats the last week in August in Denver and Republicans the first week in September in Minneapolis.

 

 




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msbobbie said:

I agree completely, 700.   McCain has made too many friends on the other side of the isle.  He is not going to risk having them reject his appointments, and he will be just like Dubya on immigration reform.

Don't they get it?  WE THE PEOPLE do not want reform, we want ENFORCEMENT and we want it NOW!

One thing for sure; when we vote third party, or undervote, or as too many are saying "just stay home" and Obama sails into the oval office, it will pull conservatives together and we will have lots of company from the democrats.

We cannot have people staying home because they do not like the top of the ticket.  We must get 41 patriot senator's butts in those seats on capitol hill.

I totally agree msbobbie, our fight is lost for the white house, we have two of the WORST possible candidates to choose from once again...a third party vote, yep, will allow obama to sail in, but we HAVE to now take our fight to the senators and house members leaving office and make sure we do NOT let the democrats get a solid majority...unless that democrat is like the guy opposing lindsey graham in NC?  SC?? who is adamant on his NO amnesty stance. 

If we can get enough NO AMNESTY senators in both sides, at least we still have a chance to stop any amnesty bills like we have been doing, but if the dems sweep and gain a few more seats, they can push thru everything they want, including YES to amnesty, NO drilling offshore, NO new nuke plants, and put all of us back to about 1930 in this country as regards to energy, travel, home heating and conservation as I assume as people can no longer afford to heat their homes with gas or oil or electricity, they will switch to burning more and more wood, which is bad for the air quality...dems don't seem to realize that Americans are NOT going to freeze to death, nor walk 15 miles to work just to make a "environmental" point!!




If you have to hyphenate your race--you are NOT an American!! This from a French-German-English-Irish-AMERICAN! See how silly this can become?
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I think by far this issue has made FS more members then any other issue. How much longer are we going to be able to hold this off?


For all who have fallen,we must move forward But, for the right reasons.*In my mind, so called "legal residency" is just as a threat as illegal immigration and it the missing topic in the immigration debate.*Every man dies,but not every man truely lives*
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California Refugee - AS LONG AS IT TAKES - That's what the opposition is hoping we don't have the resolve for, which is why we can never give in or give up, regardless how long it takes. Rhonda
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I was  totally against McCain, however There may be a glimmer of hope. The man has changed his mind because of circumstances about drilling off shore and mybe even in Anwar. If he can reconsider,(Not flip flop) drilling the perhaps if we inendate him we can get him to change his mind on immigration. No Amnesty and no jobs no jobs no welfare no free school, no medical and no anchor babies and they will go home. All by themselves, the only ones we will have to deport are the gangbangers and I say just shoot'em they are big trouble no matter where they are .
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PLEASE DO NOT BE FOOLED!

McCain is still pandering to the pro-amnesty crowd and had a private meeting with them as reported by Rosanna Pulido, Illinois Minutemen, on Lou Dobbs this evening.  I wanted to post the story, but couldn't find it.

McCain has proven, time and time again, he will not protect the interests of this country - he is a liar and will continue down the path of global governance just as his puppet masters wish and nothing, but nothing will change in this country except the reality of the NAU!  I'm amazed that so many still think we can beat amnesty again and again.  They will win eventually!

I know there are many who will vote for him to keep Obama out - not me!  I will vote for an I/TP candidate who still believes in the Constitution.




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