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June 13, 2008 09:15 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Now a day that food and gas price are skyrocketing, and seems like there is nothing those politicians can do about it?

I myself don't think simply demand and support law can explain it, somehow I think some people behind are controling the market.

Food prise hit people the hardest. Not everyone drives, but everyone does eat. 

June 13, 2008 02:06 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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KMCHENG--You bemoan food ang gas prices. If this bothers you _THEN HELP GET RID OF THOSE LIBERALS IN CONGRESS . I know.. That sound too simple--but -if you watch HISTORY and politics,you would know that it's the DEMS that have stopped us from drilling for oil -ANYWHERE -and building new refineries ! Now,I don't know how they ever got to be the ONLY arbiter in who can.,or can't drill,BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE WIMP REPUBLICANS LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT .. It is also a FACT that ACTUALLY CONGRESS HAS NO BUSINESS IN THE OIL BUSINESS.In YOUR CONSTITUTION- ARTICLE "1"  SECTION "8" spells out where and what Congress has the right to BUTT IN to our lives---AND OIL DRILLING IS NOT IN THERE !!! PERIOD ! So,what you need to do--and many-many-other people with you ,,is TELL CONGRESS TO BUTT OUT WHERE THEY DON'T BELONG !!
June 13, 2008 02:10 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I keep hearing that all the ills are caused by those evil Dems that have been back in control for the past 2 years -- didn't the Republicans have control for quite a while?  And also didn't do much?  No, I am not a Democrat (or Republican) -- I am a conservative -- neither party represents conservatives!


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June 13, 2008 02:42 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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What is going on here?

The American people are rightly screaming over $4.00 per gallon prices at the pump. 

But what exactly are some of our so-called elected leaders in Washington doing about it?

Unfortunately, instead of working to reduce the burden on your pocketbook...

... liberals and RINOs in Congress are actively and aggressively trying to RAISE THE PRICE OF GASOLINE!

That's right!

Just last week, the Senate attempted to pass the Boxer Climate Tax bill, a deceptive piece of legislation that Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell acknowledged would raise the price of gasoline at the pump BY ANOTHER $1.40 a gallon!

McConnell summarized the economic consequences of the Boxer bill by saying:

"It is, at its heart, a stealth and giant tax on virtually every aspect of industrial and consumer life.  It would result in massive job losses.  And it seeks to radically alter consumer behavior, without any measurable benefit to the environment in return."

"And that's why it's so hard to comprehend the Majority's decision to move to a bill, at the start of the summer driving season, that would raise the price of gas by as much as $1.40 a gallon, home electricity bills by about 44 percent, and natural gas prices by about 20 percent.

"Overall, it's expected to result in GDP losses totaling as much as $2.9 trillion by 2050." 

Who would be asked to bear that unbearable cost? The American people! And it's not peanuts... we're talking about a built-in future hit of approximately $29,000 for every single household in the United States!

Make no mistake... when it comes to giving relief to Americans who are suffering because of the high cost of gasoline, our so-called elected leaders could enact real legislative solutions RIGHT NOW!

The truth of the matter is: Congress could authorize tapping our nation's vast domestic resources without harming the environment one bit.

But they are too busy trying to raise the price of gas instead -- signaling once again how out of touch they are with the American people.

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June 13, 2008 03:51 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Is the site truthworthy? Since I never saw it before.
June 13, 2008 05:14 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Can't tell you whether that site is truthworthy. But the information that SuperPatriot copied from the site is the TRUTH. That is exactly what our "leaders" are spending their efforts on in our behalf. Their attempts to raise prices through TAXES  (and blame the oil companies and global warming) are consuming their every minute. They nolonger work FOR us. They have an "agenda" all of their own.

And us blaming the Dems is just not true, the Repubs are in on this up to their necks also. Place the blame where it truely lies: the IDIOT VOTERS who keep re-electing these politicians (Dems and Repubs) back to Washington AFTER they screwed us their last term of office. If their past voting records are no indication of the SCREWING they intend to give us in the future.......then by all means VOTE for them yet AGAIN.

How many times do I have to VOTE AGAINST Barbara Boxer ?  Jeez, seems like my life's work campaigning against this crazy socialist witch.

June 13, 2008 06:01 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I believe that these crazy gas prices are not just a result of supply and demand as kmcheng said. I wonder if this is part of a Bilderberger, CFR scheme to control energy. There must be some big investment made by the power guys, in Saudi oil or other foreign contracts that they are making big bucks on. In other words a big oil fraud scheme. I would like to find out and I bet the possibility is not even being looked at. Something along the lines of the Haliburton fraud but much bigger.
June 13, 2008 07:14 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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kmcheng said:

Now a day that food and gas price are skyrocketing, and seems like there is nothing those politicians can do about it?

I myself don't think simply demand and support law can explain it, somehow I think some people behind are controling the market.

Food prise hit people the hardest. Not everyone drives, but everyone does eat. 

 

Conspiracy? You're starting to sound as ridiculous as the 9/11 truthers.




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June 13, 2008 07:17 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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northerner said: I believe that these crazy gas prices are not just a result of supply and demand as kmcheng said. I wonder if this is part of a Bilderberger, CFR scheme to control energy. There must be some big investment made by the power guys, in Saudi oil or other foreign contracts that they are making big bucks on. In other words a big oil fraud scheme. I would like to find out and I bet the possibility is not even being looked at. Something along the lines of the Haliburton fraud but much bigger.

 

Are you a 9/11 truther like kmcheng?




I'm not a Republican or a Democrat. I'm not a paleo-conservative, I'm not a neo-conservative, I'm not a classical liberal, and I'm not a neo-liberal. I'm not a statist, anarchist, populist, centrist, or moderate. I am an American of the United States. If you have a problem with that, good.
June 13, 2008 07:36 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Enough of the personal attacks and personal name calling.

thanks much

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June 13, 2008 07:38 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I'm not a Republican or a Democrat. I'm not a paleo-conservative, I'm not a neo-conservative, I'm not a classical liberal, and I'm not a neo-liberal. I'm not a statist, anarchist, populist, centrist, or moderate. I am an American of the United States. If you have a problem with that, good.
June 13, 2008 09:02 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Ray P. said:
kmcheng said:

Now a day that food and gas price are skyrocketing, and seems like there is nothing those politicians can do about it?

I myself don't think simply demand and support law can explain it, somehow I think some people behind are controling the market.

Food prise hit people the hardest. Not everyone drives, but everyone does eat. 

 

Conspiracy? You're starting to sound as ridiculous as the 9/11 truthers.

 

I didn't say anything about any "conspiracy". It may be true, may be not, I don't know, I will let God be the judge. I just propose it as one of the possibilities, relax.

June 13, 2008 09:07 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I was joking with you. For some odd reason, this joke was taken seriously, but advocating murder (such as saying you want landmines on our southern border to stop illegals) is not.

 

I also thought that you can only be questioning a moderator if, you know, pose a question. Also this post was direct at you, not the moderators. Therefore, I have broken no rules in this post.




I'm not a Republican or a Democrat. I'm not a paleo-conservative, I'm not a neo-conservative, I'm not a classical liberal, and I'm not a neo-liberal. I'm not a statist, anarchist, populist, centrist, or moderate. I am an American of the United States. If you have a problem with that, good.
June 21, 2008 10:16 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Why does everyone think that Halliburton is an "Oil Company"?

Halliburton is an "Oil Production Company" what is the diff?

Halliburton does not drill for oil, they do not pump oil out of the ground, they do not transport oil, they do not refine oil.

Halliburton arrives at an oil well and will cement the hole on the outside of the casing that is being drilled. This will go on until the well is completed and depending on where the hole is being drilled will determine the amount of time Halliburton will spend at that drill site in continued intervals.

Once the well is up and pumping the owner may decided after testing that he wants more production from his well. Another company with a specially designed tool will come in and set charges that after detonation will make a specified diameter hole in the cement casing that the oil travels through to the surface for storage. Halliburton will then connect to the well head and "Frac" or fracture the earth and pump again a specified size of sand through the holes that have been made in the cement casing. Once the pressure is realeased the sand though minute in size will hold the fractures that have been made apart so that more oil flow is allowed during extraction from the earth.

I used to work for Halliburton on a "Frac" crew in Wyoming. Now is it possible that Halliburton owns stock or shares in oil companies? Yes, Could things have changed in the Corporate Structure of Halliburton since I worked there? Yes, This information is from when I worked for them back in the late 70's early 80's so could it be wrong? Yes. I don't have a problem being corrected but, How many of our personal friends own stock in oil companies? I work for a contractor at a gov. facility and I work around liberals who continually blame Halliburton and Dick Cheney because he owns stock in Halliburton. What about the stock that you own, is it China based, Mexico based, Middle East based? There is plenty of blame to go around here folks and its easy to point a finger. Yes, I realze that sometimes we just need to vent but,

We need to get off the high horse folks and put the blame squarely where it belongs.........

This is "OUR COUNTRY", So, Me and You! We are as much the problem as anyone else. We are the ones who vote, we are the ones who are either active or passive in the interests of our Nation. If I knew more about politics maybe I'd run for an office or, is this just an excuse that I'm using for myself? You tell me! I get a lot of information from this and a few other websites that send petitions and notifications and after I've signed them I forward them to those in my address list whether they agree with me or not. I even had a step-sister tell me that she wouldn't accept anymore e-mails from me because they were mostly e-mails about things that concern me as an American Citizen and "MY COUNTRY". She didn't want to see or hear this kind of stuff and she is going to vote in this upcoming election! Does this bother me? Yes, but it doesn't nullify the responsibility that our Founding Fathers put upon my shoulders to be involved in keeping this Nation Free.

YOU! Are the grass roots movement in this Nation and we need to continue to spread the word whether we are rejected even buy our loved ones or not. I have never had the privilege and honor of serving my Country in the military but anyone who has knows, that Freedom isn't Free, a cliche? yes I know but that doesn't deminish its truth.

The Lord Bless, hizson




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June 21, 2008 12:37 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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hizson,

Thanks for the education about Halliburton's role in the drilling process. The more information we have the better equipped we are to direct our anger and our efforts at the real culprits.

I do agree with you that we the voters shoulder a lot of the blame because we have allowed the politicians license to do as they wish. But now we have a perfect opportunity, come November,  to exonerate ourselves.  We can get back on track, as a nation in control of our destiny, if only enough of us educated, vote the bums out and vote some true American patriots in.

June 21, 2008 01:58 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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A tremendous amount of the safety features around wells today were developed by Oil Well Service company Halliburton, without the expertise of Haliburton there would be a lot more spills and accidents. I have worked with Haliburton on many occasions and they are a good company regardless of what people think.


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June 21, 2008 02:27 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Good to hear similar information about Haliburton from two different former employees.

It seems all too often, citizens don't bother to educate and inform themselves. They take the easiest route, just go with the flow and demonize corporations like Haliburton. All the while the real damage is being done by elected officials, certain special interest groups and citizen apathy.

This lax citizen behavior has been going on for decades (evidence who gets elected over and over) and now the nation is crashing down around us.

Maybe it isn't too late to turn things around, but I am not real hopeful.

June 22, 2008 09:59 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Thank you. As I said though my current information quite possibly could be outdated as I worked for them in the late 70's and early 80's.

My wife and I were talking last night about the efforts that are now picking up steam to start drilling in our country again. My 12 year old asked me why there was such a problem with drilling in The United States so I explained to him the following.

During the "supposed" gas shortage of the 70's and 80's (remember that hoax) there was so much drilling going on just in the State of Wyoming that it was unbelieveable and we (Halliburton Employees) were going out and plugging new wells. *For those that don't know*

Plugging a well consisted of putting a solid rubber plug in at the wellhead and then using pumps that were capable of creating 20,000 lbs. of pressure per square inch to move the plug into the cement casing. Behind the plug pushing it down into the hole would be some type of cement (not really sure what it was) and when it hardened the well was capped. This enabled the use of the well at a later date. Many wells that were "good holes" were capped off and are still capped of to this day.

Anyway, I explained to my son that drilling for oil did not just provide work for the "Oil Field" workers at all levels but, that it provided jobs throughout the United States because products of all types were needed which in turn, put American Citizens to work creating the need for; homes, groceries, shoes, clothing, appliances, automobiles, creating jobs for; carpenters, drywallers, tapers, roofers, farmers, manufacturers, truck drivers (me), cooks, school teachers, and I could go on and on.

So, I told my son that drilling for oil and building refineries here in The United States of America will create a trickle effect upon our economy because it will help to create jobs for the American People and it will help to reinitate manufacturing jobs as well.

Now I do not claim to be an economist, I am simply a Pastor and a truck driver but, I'm not so stupid or naive that I can't see that, the real reason drilling for oil is such a contested subject with the liberal socialist left is not because of the environment but rather, it is because of what drilling for oil will do for America in making us what we once were industrially speaking.

NO! I am not a conspiritist but I do believe that the liberal socialist left is working to help bring our Nation, The United States of America down and turn it into a third world Nation.

If we lose hope, we lose 

Have a great Sunday everyone and, May the Lord Bless, hizson




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