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May 31, 2008 10:03 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Charlie Butts - OneNewsNow - 5/31/2008 5:45:00 AMvar addthis_pub = 'onenewsnow';

homosexual questionColorado Governor Bill Ritter has signed a bill that has shocked many of the state's residents.

 

 

The bill adds transgendered people to the list included in the state's non-discrimination law. That means businesses will be required to hire transgendered people, even if they are owned and operated by Christians who oppose the lifestyle on moral grounds. Focus on the Family spokesman Bruce Hausknecht was asked what impact that will have on churches and ministries such as his.

 

"One of our state legislators demanded and got an amendment that would exempt from the definition of public accommodation a church, a synagogue, a mosque, or any other facility that is primarily used for religious purposes," he explains.

 

But he says it is not certain ministries other than churches would be left untouched. Hausknecht also notes that the bill creates an opportunity for sexual predators to visit the restroom of their choice to find a victim.

 

"What this bill now does do is allow men to go into women's restrooms and locker rooms and vice versa because we are told that we cannot discriminate against someone with a transgender status," he warns.

 

Colorado lawmakers also slapped voters in the face with a provision that prohibits a public referendum or petition drive to overturn the law. Hausknecht says the only choice Colorado voters have now is to send people to the legislature that will act to reverse the law.

May 31, 2008 10:04 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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this governor ought to be fired...
May 31, 2008 10:39 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I agree.  Insanity reigns until the people put a stop to it.
May 31, 2008 11:39 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Another one that will be coming out of the closet soon.


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May 31, 2008 11:43 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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What a mess this country is in!  They are really trying to line it up for the one world order in a hurry.  Accepting every form of life style is part of that.  These people have always been around but have never shoved in in our faces!  Where does just plain common sense come into this picture?  This is really getting out of hand! 
June 1, 2008 01:27 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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the reason of leave the office:

"resign by the reason of insanity"Laughing

 

June 1, 2008 10:58 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Now let's see if the Colorado people have a spine and do the right thing....




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June 1, 2008 12:18 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I don't understand this one at all.  Parents already worry about their children when they use a public restroom, now there's more to worry about.

If it's such a concern, just make another bathroom with a ? on it for the confused folks to use.  That way, nobody has to be bothered with them or worry about their children coming into contact with them.

I wonder what the reaction to this is going to be in CO.




"Had the people, during the Revolution, had a suspicion of any attempt to war against Christianity, that Revolution would have been strangled in its cradle... In this age, there can be no substitute for Christianity... That was the religion of the founders of the republic and they expected it to remain the religion of their descendants." Charles Carrol, signer of Declaration of Independence, framer of the Bill of Rights, delegate to the Constitutional Convention, U.S. Senator
June 1, 2008 02:37 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Anyone hear from Rep. Tancredo (R-Co) on this matter? I'm sure he's beside himself about this...... 




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"Victory will never be found by taking the line of least resistance."

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The sooner Mecca's ambient temperature is raised to roughly 250,000 degrees fahrenheit, the better....
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June 1, 2008 02:44 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Ritter has been a thorn in Coloradians sides for some time now:

 




Rayj
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"Victory will never be found by taking the line of least resistance."

Proud member of the NRA....although I don't even own a pistol or rifle......

The sooner Mecca's ambient temperature is raised to roughly 250,000 degrees fahrenheit, the better....
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June 1, 2008 05:04 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I hadn't heard of this till I read this thread so I went to the net, read the actual law, read the exclusions passed by the legislature, which Ritter signed (an amendment to SB200 excludes church & school facilities from the list of 20 'public accommodations' GLBT beings may enter & use); and in related legislation, Ritter vetoed a bill passed by both houses of the Colorado legislature that would have made starting petitions, getting them signed (by either volunteer or paid signture gatherers), and submitting them for signature verification more difficult.

The new law does not prohibit citizen action through the petition...it can't, Colorado has the petition guarantee to all its residents built into its constitution.

I'm no fan of the fruits & nuts population in America but here are hard facts:

98% of sexual attacks on children are committed by heterosexual adults (of that number, about 80% by men and 20% by women -- usually in the form of statutory rape of minor boys).

GLBT beings comprise less than 5% of the US population but appear to cluster in tolerant areas such as Atlanta, Denver, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Boston and Manhattan, NYC. While there are some just about everywhere they present social costs and political problems primarily in their cluster areas.

For myself, I don't accept the comparison they try to make between their perversion of biological function and civil rights-race issues. While they may or may not have any choice in their preferences they certainly have behavioral choices available to them...that they, in general, choose to live the most licentious life imaginable is what makes their style of living a perverted and degenerate life system. Put bluntly, if they kept their zippers up and their skirts down, and practiced even a modicum of decorum in their public behaviors, no one should care who they are or what they do. Their agenda, however, is to shock, affront and litigate us into acceptance of their life system. What they don't understand is that it's irrelevant whether we accept them or not...they are what they are...and so long as they 'keep it at home' as most of us do, we shouldn't care whether they exist or not. Judge them based on their behavior, not their inclinations.

You won't like this but Ritter's approach to governing seems to be very libertarian (small L)...some of you may conclude that he is a libertine but I think you'd be wrong making that assessment.

Based on my reading of the law, the amendment and exceptions to the law, the media coverage of the debates running up to its signing, and comments of the political actors on both sides of the issue I can only conclude that the reaction by certain factions within our conservative community have been hysterical and have created a tempest in a teapot.

Remember, if one segment of the society can be discriminated against, any segment can be -- including those of us in the conservative movement. 

 




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June 1, 2008 06:30 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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After reading jcoles post I have to say I agree with him on this one.


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June 1, 2008 06:47 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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jColes,

You miss one major point here. What would you do if your daughter told you that a man was in her bathroom at school? Yea the man be transgender, but his male parts dominate his female stuff....

I would hit the ceiling if my daughter came home with this story!! 

I would not want my school aged kids to be exposed to this. They have enough problems growing up.

They don't need to know the differences between Dave (Mary's husband), Dave ( Bruce's lover), Dave (who is half way through a sex change), and Dave (who doesn't know what the heck he is)!!! 

 




Rayj
First you're born, you pay taxes, you die.
Then your next of kin has to pay more taxes
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This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.
Tom Tancredo - 2007
Tom's Military Rules of Engagement: WE WIN!

Winston Churchill - "An appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last."

"Victory will never be found by taking the line of least resistance."

Proud member of the NRA....although I don't even own a pistol or rifle......

The sooner Mecca's ambient temperature is raised to roughly 250,000 degrees fahrenheit, the better....
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein, US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

June 1, 2008 07:02 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I don't find it discriminatory in the least to expect someone who is a man to use the men's room even if he feels like a woman.  He's still a man on the outside and that is all anybody else knows or sees.  Some men in their early 20's still feel like they're teenagers in high school but that doesn't mean I should have to let them date my daughter when she's in high school.


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June 1, 2008 07:06 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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jC, all your fancy read aside, let me sum it up for you.  If I am in a bathroom, any bathroom, and I encounter a transgender person, I will call 911, and then sue the City for all they got.  How about my tender Psyche? 


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June 1, 2008 08:04 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Rayj00 -- churches and schools are not included as 'public accommodations' under the amendment Gov. Ritter signed...if some fruitcake of the wrong gender (or mixed genders?) goes into the room where you child is taking care of her business and is not attended by a parent or legal guardian...then you have a monster legal case against the schools; and you can probably press both civil and criminal charges...I didn't miss the issue, you didn't read carefully enough.  No shot intended at you...I understand how emotional an issue this is, but reason and rule of law have to prevail -- not emotion.

ConcernedMom...you've mixed your metaphors...these are not in-kind issues. And are you aware that these fruitcakes are already using public accommodations...the upside of this whole mess is that restrooms belonging to churches and public/private schools are not among the places where GLBT beings may legally enter. That's a level of protection children and people of faith have not enjoyed up to this point...of course, we're not likely to find many of the fruits & nuts people at the church, temple or synagog (or synagogue, if you prefer) you attend...

elaina...how would you know? Can you spot them now when they're in the restroom at the mall with you? ...or at the movie theater? ...or your favorite restaurant? Come on, kid...use your head...think about it...how can one tell, especially if, as I understand it, women's restrooms have stalls with doors? 




jColes But though my wing is closely bound, my heart's at liberty. My prison walls cannot control, the flight, the freedom of my soul. Jeanne Guyon, 1648-1717 "A Prisoner's Song" Castle of Vincennes, France
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I guess you gave the clue as to how to recognize them yourself, they look like fruitcakes.  Come on, jC, use your head.  I am really, really good at picking out homosexuals as well.  I have a 90% success rate. 




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Really, Elaina, you can spot them? A few are obvious but there were many in the workplace whom neither anyone in the office nor I knew were gay until some event arose which outed them...I judge people by their performance, the public behaviors and their contribution to whatever group I'm in...

Do you go into a public restroom or other public accommodation, scope the place out for queers and if you see any, you wait outside until they're gone before entering? I doubt it...and why should anyone care what anyone else is in his or her or its orientation so long as the being isn't bothering you? Do fagettes make many passes at you elaina?

One of my children had a teacher whom we suspected of being gay. We talked with our son every day about the class, what was said and done...we visited the classroom often as 'volunteers' so we could check on this character...and we had our friends who had kids in the same class do the same...turns out the guy was just effeminate, but hetero...if you suspect that some teacher is preaching the homo agenda, get involved and have a stop put to it...If a school district is teaching that faggery is an acceptable life system alternative, sue the pants off them...but those beings are people too, Americans too...so long as they're not 'recruiting' or otherwise breaking the law then how dare we discriminate against their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness while in the public domain...I don't want to know what they do in private and if they bring their private behavior into the public domain, such as gay pride parades, I turn away in disgust. And may the gods help the queer who ever tries to lay a hand on me for perverted purposes because I will show no mercy. But after 62 years of not being approached by a fag, I guess there's not much to worry about in my old age. 

 




jColes But though my wing is closely bound, my heart's at liberty. My prison walls cannot control, the flight, the freedom of my soul. Jeanne Guyon, 1648-1717 "A Prisoner's Song" Castle of Vincennes, France
June 1, 2008 09:40 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Jc, please don't put words in my mouth.  If I encounter transgendered people................I do not stand at the door with a checklist, nor so I go around looking for them. 


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News from MassResistance on the marriage law referendum petition:

Catholic activist and organizer Larry Cirignano is back and aboard to help our push for this last month of signature-gathering for the Referendum Petition, to force the "1913 Law" to a vote of the people.

Also this week, paperwork to create the official Ballot Committee for the effort, named "Citizens for Fair Marriage Laws" was filed. That committee will directly raise money and pay for expenses relating to the ballot question.
Most recently, Larry attended both the Democratic and Republican national conventions, as well as the Values Voter summit in Washington, DC last week. "There's a lot of interest and excitement around the country in this petition drive," he said. "People are angry about the Massachusetts Legislature's arrogance, they're really afraid of what could happen, and they're praying for the referendum's success."

And as we've been saying, this is also our opportunity to make a bold statement to our public officials that we're not taking it any longer - that we are standing up to them and not backing down or giving up. It's extremely important to send that message, that the fight has only begun and we intend to win it.

This weekend: the churches!

Although supermarkets, post offices, events, etc., are good, your churches are the best place to collect signatures. We need to get EVERY person we can! If you haven't already, contact us for a packet of signature sheets or download them from the website, Massresistance.com


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