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My father used a belt...my mother used whatever was within her reach....hairbrush, wooden spoon, yardstick....

I can assure you I DESERVED any punishment I received as a child. I was quite the back-talker as a child....had a fresh mouth too. If I talked to my parents the way I hear kids talk to THEIR parents NOW....YIKES! Run for your bedroom and cover your tush.....

Pooey on these people....now we decide how parents punish their snotty little brats? Geez, if ANY generation deserves a spanking......time outs are for IDIOTS!

Spare the rod spoil the child...but these days some people don't know how to say "when" with regard to punishing a child PROPERLY. There is such a thing as overkill, I certainly agree with that. BUT...proper punishment for bad behavior IS appropriate....I would get a smack across the mouth for back-talking my mother- I can assure you I DESERVED IT!

My parents ARE NOT child abusers and I turned out very well....I RESPECT my elders and authority. These mealy mouth little idiots we have today have NO RESPECT!

Bring back spanking in school!

I can assure you I DESERVED any punishment I received as a child. I was quite the back-talker as a child....had a fresh mouth too.

And that's changed how, BTB??   

FireWing said:

I can assure you I DESERVED any punishment I received as a child. I was quite the back-talker as a child....had a fresh mouth too.

And that's changed how, BTB??   

SNAGGED! LOL.....

guess mom thinks I'm a bit too old for that slap now.....you should see her faceif I say something off color in front of her....

Too funny firewing....but also TRUE! GUILTY AS CHARGED!

Believe me when I say those old plastic hairbrushes from the late 60's HURT!

Those dufuses in Sacramento have too much time on their hands.  Do we know if this gal has any kids?  Probably not.  "Cause if she did, then she'd know why sometimes you want to ring their little necks!  Getting a swat on the behind is a lot less draconian!

Don't forget to take CRI's Poll on the Spanking Ban.

You know what I think?  This is just a way for CPS (Child Protective Services) to take children away from their parents and indoctrinate them.  Are you aware of the Los Angeles judge who recently ruled that a parent could not homeschool their children?  Thank God people had a fit and the ruling was overturned and they will be rehearing the case again with some powerful attorney's representing the parents this time.  This ruling would have affected all parents who are homeschooling their children.

sparks3 said: The Socialist State of Mexifornia is done on all sides, stick a fork in it. Join the thousands who have MOVED rather than been PCed, regulated, disarmed and taxed to death.

I always knew California was a flaky state....this only confirms that FACT!

What a bunch of PC WEENIES!

Disciplining a child is one thing....child abuse is another story.  California has no business sticking their nose in the discipline area.  The majority of parents do what is right to correct and enhance the behavior of their children.

This is total absurdity and I guess to my own thoughts ...just power hungry individuals trying to impose their own stupidity on regular good citizens........Amazing and very, very Saddening.

And it would be good if the schools would bring discipline back...time-outs, what a bunch of bunk.

Lordy

This is the Assemblywoman who is promoting this spanking bill.  Notice that she has no children, but she and her husband  take seriously their role as pet guardians for a politically astute black-and-white cat. 

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Another news article on this bill.

Click here: California Bill Would Ban Spanking with 'Implements' -- 04/18/2008

The whole issue is ridiculous. What right - outside of obvious, blatant abuse of a child - does any government official have to step in and tell you you cannot punish your own child? Is it that there is nothing else for them to do in their jobs? No legitimate laws to define and enforce? They cannot effectively punish lawbreakers and yet will tell parents how to punish their children?

These "perfect" people, of course, have "perfect" children in their perfect lives. What is their punishment for their children? Buying them off with another IPOD, cell phone, MVD player, etc.? 

Its time to stop government from interfering in areas of our lives that are no concern of theirs. Talk about your "nanny" state! Its time for them to go home and actually raise their own children and leave us alone!

She ws not spanked as a child. She met her husband at a "burning man" festival. She was STILL in college at 37 years old. She apparently has a cat, but no children. This lady gives the title "kook" new meaning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_J._Lieber

I waitress to put myself through college...so I see many families with children. There is NO discipline! I have been punched in the stomach and kicked by small children because they were brats. One parent turned to me and said "Oh, he's having a bad day" He was 3 for heaven's sake! Teach him not to assault people or you will be visiting your brat in prison in about 15 years!

I agree that most people go too far with discipline and it borders on outright child abuse....but teaching your children to respect others and not to put your hands on others is the RIGHT thing to do. And the way these kids talk to their parents.....OUTRAGEOUS! Back talk and sass were NOT acceptable behaviors when I was growing up.

And you wonder why I get that feeling of DREAD when I see a family with kids in my section....

As a former special and regular education teacher, the main reason I am no longer in the profession is due almost totally to the lack of discipline (and entitlement mentalities) in the elementary and secondary students that I taught. 

The only remedy is strict discipline guidelines for public and private schools  and character education programs initiated  at the lower elementary levels-- with parental participation and accountability.

Believe me BB, I completely understand your feeling of DREAD. 

Proverbs 1

The Purpose of Proverbs

1 These are the proverbs of Solomon, David’s son, king of Israel.  

2 Their purpose is to teach people wisdom and discipline,
      to help them understand the insights of the wise.
3 Their purpose is to teach people to live disciplined and successful lives,
      to help them do what is right, just, and fair.
4 These proverbs will give insight to the simple,
      knowledge and discernment to the young.  

7 Fear of the Lord is the foundation of true knowledge,
      but fools despise wisdom and discipline.

Proverbs 3

Proverbs 5

Proverbs 6

20 My son, obey your father’s commands,
      and don’t neglect your mother’s instruction.

23 For their command is a lamp
      and their instruction a light;
   their corrective discipline
      is the way to life.

Proverbs 10

Proverbs 12

Proverbs 13

1 A wise child accepts a parent’s discipline;
      a mocker refuses to listen to correction.  

24 Those who spare the rod of discipline hate their children.
      Those who love their children care enough to discipline them.

Proverbs 15

5 Only a fool despises a parent’s discipline;
      whoever learns from correction is wise.  

32 If you reject discipline, you only harm yourself;
      but if you listen to correction, you grow in understanding.

Proverbs 16

Proverbs 19

Proverbs 20

Proverbs 22

Proverbs 23

13 Don’t fail to discipline your children.
      They won’t die if you spank them.
14 Physical discipline
      may well save them from death.  

23 Get the truth and never sell it;
      also get wisdom, discipline, and good judgment.

Proverbs 29

15 To discipline a child produces wisdom,
      but a mother is disgraced by an undisciplined child.

17 Discipline your children, and they will give you peace of mind
      and will make your heart glad.  

19 Words alone will not discipline a servant;
      the words may be understood, but they are not heeded.