Ah yes....I remember this case from last year.  It was one of those typical "gosh, I had no idea that was going on in our neighborhood" stories.  Really now....this was NOT a huge house.  How could you NOT notice 15 or 20 extra people living in one house???!!!!  I won't be surprised to see our moonbat governor step in as a friend of the court and plead for leniency!!

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I'll bet this guy doesn't do a minutes time behind bars.  And what kind of message does that send?  Everything he has should be forfeited to the government.  Drug dealers' ill gotten gains are forfeited so the same should apply to gains gotten from illegal labor.  I wonder if he himself is illegal.  This is not an immigrant's success story.  This is just another story about someone breaking our immigration laws.  An immigrant success story is one of a legal immigrant who learned English and worked legally and made something of him or her self.  This is just another parasite.  But I still say that if people would not have hired his roofing company to do their work he couldn't have stayed in business.  Demand American workers.  We do.  And it works.

I don't blame the customer so much.  Most time with a new roof, you only meet the owner or a salesman.  When the actual work is done, the customer probably goes off to work for the day and never sees who doing the manual labor part of the job.  A homeowner obviously should check the credentials and reputation of any business he or she is considering hiring for a home repair job.  But, it's pretty sad it's come to the point where the homeowner should also ask to see proof of the legal status of the contractor's employees.  Would be nice if they could trust the contractor to have already taken care of that.  And here's an interesting "side bar"......what if the homeowner DOES ask the employee for proof of citizenship.  Let's say that person IS here legitimately either with a green card, or a natural born citizen.  Does that person then have a harassment suit potential against the homeowner?  Was he singled out because he had darker skin?  Or a thicker accent?  Oh well....all comes to that question from last year......WHERE'S THE FENCE????

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You don't need to check anyones credentials.  You simply tell the contractor up front that you will only allow American workers on your property.  Then it is up to him as to whether he gets the job or not.  If he cannot guarantee you that American workers will do the job then kiss him goodbye.  There is no harassment suit here because you have the right to decide who does work for you on your property.  It is a different story if it is not your private residence.

Well, that was kind of my point......you either trust the contractor, or you don't.  If he's inclined to lie, he's inclined to hire illegals too.  So again, it comes down to either taking his word for it, or checking yourself.

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We are ready for a new roof, and had several contractors come by for an estimate.  I told the contractors right away that I will not have illegal workers step on our property.  We chose a contractor who charges a bit more, but who also reassured me that all his workers are legal Americans, and that he is willing to provide proof. Several others have never gotten back with us................

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Good for you elaina.  It may take a little more effort and sometimes costs a little more but it can be done and therefore we send a message.  In the long run I don't think it does cost more because most of the time the illegals' work is inferior.  I'm willing to bet you that those who didn't get back with you do indeed use illegals.  We just need to let these employers know that they aren't going to put extra money in their pockets by using illegal workers.  I just feel like if we don't all do our part we can't expect things to get any better.  I can't go out and enforce the law but I'll be damned if I'll allow them to do any work on this property.

  Resisting these invaders starts at everyones kitchen table. Decide with your family to give them no quater in your everyday life point out loudly whenever you encounter them who they are and refuse to deal with them. Only speak English even if you do speak their language. It starts with us. Let your local elected officials know that you will put up with no special treatment to invaders. Only in Politics does s**t flow uphill tommoros reps and senators are minor officials today. Lets train them,to rep us and lead us.

  It used to be that way but PC makes an Illegal alien an undocumented migrant worker now and a pile of s**t is only unproccessed fertilizer.

 

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We're having a barn put up in May and we told them...no illegal workers.

elaina said: We are ready for a new roof, and had several contractors come by for an estimate.  I told the contractors right away that I will not have illegal workers step on our property.  We chose a contractor who charges a bit more, but who also reassured me that all his workers are legal Americans, and that he is willing to provide proof. Several others have never gotten back with us................

On the subject of this forum title: Aren't there bigger targets for enforcement that ICE can concentrate on?  This was a really small business.  Why couldn't they have done a sweep and gotten 100 contractors in one operation.  In many areas that would STILL be a small fraction of those that are violating the law about hiring illegal immigrants. 

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Elaina: We heard about a similar story.  Friends contacted a window manufacturer to have insulated windows installed.  The window company advertises heavily on a local radio station and the radio station is also in the forefront of discussing all the problems associated with illegal immigration.

So they put the required money down to have the windows installed.  Of course, all window manufacturers require a deposit to cover their costs related to the custom nature of their business.  When the day came to install the windows the whole crew was made up of illegal aliens.  Now what?  You've plunked down $1000 based on the faith that your local radio station wouldn't do something as underhanded as this and advertize for a company that hires mainly illegal immigrants.

Incidentally, we were told that the one who hosts the radio program that does most of the advertising also visits the window company regularly, so it wasn't as if these facts were unknown.  There's a LOT of hypocrisy out there.  Some will do and say anything for money while putting on the appearance that they are something that they are not.

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EE, I don't know what everyone else here would have done.  I would have let them know in no uncertain terms that I know ICE's number and have no problem using it.  Would the illegals have shown up to install the windows? I don't know. But they would not have come into my house, and I would have made so much ruckus until I got my money back, you would have heard it all the way to Mexico.  And for those who might think I wouldn't defend myself should one of the illegals get the idea of coming here to complain, think again.

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elaina;  You go girl.  I can tell you and I are two of a kind.  I will not aid them in any way.  And Great Grampa you hit the nail on the head.  I couldn't have said it better myself.

Thank you mammaw.  I can just see the two of us gun slinging religious nuts, or whatever Obama calls gals like us.

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elaina said: EE, I don't know what everyone else here would have done.  I would have let them know in no uncertain terms that I know ICE's number and have no problem using it.  Would the illegals have shown up to install the windows? I don't know. But they would not have come into my house, and I would have made so much ruckus until I got my money back, you would have heard it all the way to Mexico.  And for those who might think I wouldn't defend myself should one of the illegals get the idea of coming here to complain, think again.

 

Frankly, most of us would have the same opinion.  But you must realize that in some areas things have gotten so bad that there no longer is any choice as to who does the work.  You may be more fortunate, and have those choices, as does Mammaw.  It is good that you are willing to pay whatever is a fair price to have your home re-shingled, and not go on the cheap, which really means you're probably going to be paying for illegal alien labor.  That will at least stop inroads into your community of criminal illegal alien employers.

When things get so bad, that there no longer are choices, then the best any of us can do is point to the problem.  It rests with criminal illegal alien employers.  Frankly, if there still exists a concept called sedition, some of these emloyers should be shot instead of just jailed/fined, and that would put a stop to it as soon as the news gets out.  This is where it must start.  When businesses face so much risk that they are more than likely to be fined/jailed/shot as criminal illegal alien employers, there will be a sea change in hiring practices because the "playing field" will then be leveled.  Then the choices business patrons have will not have to be guilt ridden because the government has left them with no options.  Corruption at local, state and federal levels has gotten so bad on this issue that these areas, for all practical purposes, can be considered as part of Mexico and points south.  It seems that people have lost their understanding of what an invasion of their country represents.

The fact that this forum title points to an insignificant prosecution of one small business shows that the eforcement effort is not credible.  If you contrast that with, for example, what the Eisenhower Administration did, there is no comparison.

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I have to agree, EE, but for me and my house......................anywhere any time, bring it on.  I'd fight 'til the end.

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Me too elaina.  I may go down but I'll go down fighting.  Remember, "He who stands for nothing will fall for anything."