Forward this column or get stuck on stupid

 

If your kid comes home from college one day and tells you that your Christian faith is stupid, welcome to the world in which I live. The college environment does that to our kids. It makes good Christian students stupid. By that I mean it turns them into liberals, atheists, or both. Three out of four Christian kids (that's 75% for those of you who attend UNC-Wilmington) abandon the church when they go to college and only about a third of them return by age 30. In other words, most stay stuck on stupid.

 

 

Christians and conservatives could simply whine about this, but then we would just sound like liberals. Instead, we need to take action. Before I tell you what you can do to help fix this problem, let me clarify what we're facing.
 
Two Jewish researchers went on campus (this is not a joke) last year to see just how anti-Semitic the faculty were. Their findings? In a survey of over 6,600 college professors across the country, they found virtually no anti-Semitism. Instead, they found a distinct bias against evangelical students: More than half (53%) of college faculty view evangelical students unfavorably. Mormons are next at 33%, followed by Muslims at 22%.
 
Let me put this in proper perspective: In the United States of America, professors are two and a half times more likely to view evangelical Christian students unfavorably than Muslim students.
 
The study also found that: Professors are five times more likely to be atheists than the general public: 19% vs. 4%; there are far fewer Evangelicals among the faculty than the general public: 11% vs. 33%; professors are more than twice as likely to identify themselves as liberal than the general public: 48% to 22%. (This is consistent with an earlier study which found that Democrats outnumber Republicans ten to one on college faculty.)
 
But enough with the statistics -- what are Christians doing about this? Just take a moment to imagine the following:
 
There's someone speaking on college campuses capable of -- without quoting Bible verses -- showing students solid evidence why Christianity is the most reasonable worldview. Imagine further that the four-point presentation this person gives is so provocative and entertaining that not only Christians attend, but atheists and skeptics show up as well (swelling some audiences to over 1,500 like a recent N.C. State presentation). Imagine that during Q&A atheists are treated respectfully, but their arguments are exposed as fallacious. And imagine that there is a book, DVD series, website and TV show available for follow up that strengthens Christians and challenges skeptics to consider Christianity.
 
You don't need to just imagine it happening because it already is. Dr. Frank Turek, founder and President of CrossExamined.org, is leading a team of Christian apologists to conduct "I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist" seminars on college campuses and at churches across the country. The seminar, based on Turek and Norman Geisler's award-winning book of the same name, is outstanding (back in September 2006, I told you that this is the book that helped bring Jimmy Duke to Christ).
 
I hosted Frank here at UNCW a couple of weeks ago, and I can tell you that the Christians were emboldened and the atheists were respectfully but firmly refuted. In fact, we've already invited Frank back for next semester, which will coincide nicely with UNCW's three-year celebration of Charles Darwin ("diversity" demands that we have an opposing view, I’m told).
 
Please go to CrossExamined.org to invite Frank or someone from his team to your campus or church. If you can't get into the fight directly, then maybe you can help others do so by donating on the website (Frank and his team charge students nothing for campus events -- they rely on tax-deductible donations). At the very least, get the book, watch the TV show (Sundays at 6 p.m. Eastern on DirecTV Channel 378), and visit the website to equip yourself and your kids with the truth.
 
It's time for conservatives and Christians to stop whining about how secular liberals are dominating our college campuses. It is time to take action and reach out to college students who are stuck on stupid.

 

Dr. Mike Adams is a criminology professor at the University of North Carolina-Wilmington and author of Feminists Say the Darndest Things: A Politically Incorrect Professor Confronts "Womyn" On Campus.

I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist

got to love this statement 

At the rate we're going kids won't need to go to college anyway because all our high tech jobs are now going to H1B and H2B visas and all that is going to be left for them is flipping burgers, mowing lawns, or picking crops.  Whoops.  Those jobs have already been taken by the illegal aliens.  Get my point?  There is going to be nothing left for our children and grandchildren.  Nothing.

km, I checked out Dr. Frank Turek's website and found this...

We can lay the blame for much of this on ourselves — that is, on the church. While there are notable exceptions, most American churches over-emphasize emotion and ignore the biblical commands to develop the mind (1 Pet 3:15, 2 Cor. 10:5). In other words, we’re doing a great job performing for our youth with skits, bands and videos, but a terrible job informing them with logic, truth, and a Christian worldview. We’ve failed to recognize that what we win them with we win them to. If we win them with emotion, we win them to emotion.

"We’ve failed to recognize that what we win them with we win them to."

I'm really impressed. How did you find out about Dr. Turek?

As you can guess I have a thing or two to say about this as well, and the above post by Greg is a good starter.  I discuss this issue with many of my friends, and in my line of work I meet many people with whom I can discuss this subject as well.  But I don't meet many people who are willing to stand up for what they believe in.  What we do is discuss, blame, scapegoat, and, hopefully, pray, but when it comes to actually standing up for what we believe in, we gladly wait for someone else to do it.  We don't want to rattle the cage, make to many waves, what will people think, I could lose my job...Yes, we are commanded to love each other and to have compassion, we are to obey the law of the land, and especially God's law.  But here is a hint.  Instead of bickering among denominations, let's get off our blessed assurance and bicker for God, for his Holy Word.  Jesus did not sit idly by for 30 some years waiting until it was over, minding his own beeswax, worrying about the latest fashion or American Idol.  He did git'er done.  He made noise, he rattled so many cages he died on the Cross for it. And no, I am not calling for you to be a martyr. That's the other ones. But what I am saying is that we are not here on this earth to please ourselves 24/7, we are here to please God, and obey his Commandments.  Go out to eat and say a loud Prayer at the table, wear a "I Love Jesus" T-shirt, put  a bumper sticker on your car.  When someone asks you why you have this smile on your face, tell them it's because Jesus loves you.  And, after this practice, when you are finally ready, make some noise for God  without whom you wouldn't even draw breath.  Get your church to join the fight instead of blending in.  Quit being a Christian by name only, get moving before it is too late.  This is where fighting really matters, because once we have God back on our side, everything else will fall into place.  

Thank you for your time. 

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elaina, I've gotten threads to twist and turn all over the place and I'm sure km and the staff don't want me to do the same here.

I tend to do this because I see that all these threads could be lumped into one main subject, "The Battle of Good Versus Evil." This is how I see it playing out...

Many people came over to this land for the very purpose of escaping the evil practices going on all over Europe. They did successfully create a nation with laws based on freedom. They even said we are a nation founded under God. I'm absolutely sure I will rejoice to see Jesus Christ say to them, "Well done thou good and faithful servants."

Unfortunately, sin is an inherent part of our nature. Also, many who are jealous of our freedom came here to take it away. Like the Egyptians who left Egypt with Moses and the Jews (and constantly tried to get the Jews to worship their idols while in the desert) they are among us trying to enslave us again. They are insidious, devious, and we must constantly fight them back. I think this is an important lesson Jesus Christ never wants us to forget.

With our victory of WWII we've become complacent, fat, and hooked on American Idol. The devious ones have been quietly, slowly chipping away at our freedom that we paid a very high price to get. The Jews who followed Joshua held on to their values. When they died off their grandchildren, who did not understand the price paid for the rich blessing they were enjoying, strayed off into all kinds of sin. We are in a similar place today.

For the Jews at the time of Moses their "religion" was more than emotion. It was reality. The real living reigning creator of the universe had a close PERSONAL relationship with them and PHYSICALLY and VISIBLY travelled with them. What an awesome experience they had. So much more than emotion. Oh that we could have that today.

Which brings me to the subject of this thread and a personal hero of mine, Kieth Green. He and Melody produced a host of tracts, one which Dr. Turek may have read, called Aggressive Christianity. I'll let you Google it. In short it encourages us to experience real living reigning Christianity and the world around us will not be the same. Not emotion but intelligent relationship with the creator of our eyes.

I think this is the direction Dr. Turek is going. A man of sound mind. km keep it up.

Need to make a disclaimer.

For grins and giggles I just did a Google on Aggressive Christianity. I'm horrified. There is a cult in New Mexico using this name.

Catherine Booth, of the Salvation Army in England, is the original author. There is no cult mentality here.

I know cults all too well as my middle daughter was pulled in to one Feb. 2, 1998. My wife and I shut our business down and did nothing but search for her. We found her 2 months later in St. Louis Missouri. Today this is a happy story as she helps those leaving cults. 

Since there is a cult connection and the correct link is not on page one here is the article I reffered to...

http://www.lastdaysministries.org/articles/aggressivechristianity.html 

Here are some of Catherine's words...

We Christians profess to have in the Gospel of Christ a mighty lever which, rightly and universally applied, would lift the entire burden of sin and misery from the shoulders (that is from the souls) of our fellow man - a total remedy for all the moral and spiritual woes of humanity. We all profess to believe this - Christians have professed to believe this for generations - and yet look at the world, look at so-called "Christian England and America." The great majority in these nations utterly ignore God, not even making a pretense of remembering Him even one day a week. And then look at the rest of the world. I have often become so depressed with this view of things that I have felt as if my heart would break. I don't know how other Christians feel, but I can truly say that "My eyes shed streams of water, because they do not keep Thy law." (Psalm 119:136) And because it seems to me that this dispensation¹ compared with what God intended it to be, has been, and still is, as great a failure as the one that preceded it.²

 

Greg Badger said:

km, I checked out Dr. Frank Turek's website and found this...

We can lay the blame for much of this on ourselves — that is, on the church. While there are notable exceptions, most American churches over-emphasize emotion and ignore the biblical commands to develop the mind (1 Pet 3:15, 2 Cor. 10:5). In other words, we’re doing a great job performing for our youth with skits, bands and videos, but a terrible job informing them with logic, truth, and a Christian worldview. We’ve failed to recognize that what we win them with we win them to. If we win them with emotion, we win them to emotion.

"We’ve failed to recognize that what we win them with we win them to."

I'm really impressed. How did you find out about Dr. Turek?

 

no idea, dude

I just post the article as given

but a terrible job informing them with logic, truth, and a Christian worldview

in another word, christians now are so lack of basic theological training 

And what training people get is touchy feely.

Have you read Catherine's article? It hits me like a ton of bricks.

I didn't read

LBJ pulled the teeth from American churchs in 1954 using 501c3 tax exempt status.  It is a contract between the church and the Gov't that effectively silences a church on gov't matters.

Church do not have to and should not go  501c3.  Churches can go from 501c3 to non 501c3.  Check out

http://hushmoney.org/501c3-facts.htm

Helping the poor should have been left to the churchs and county homes .  Mental institutions should have been left alone.  Now we have "Street People" instead of having vagrants taken to a home.  If they were able they helped support the home by working on the farm.  Liberals said that was degrading so now we pay young girls to have babies and sell drugs.

Back in the 50's you could leave your door unlocked.  Now I live on a farm on a six mile long dirt road and have one murderer, four drug dealers and nine thieves for neighbors, and the cops do nothing.

 

By the way I am pro-christian atheist.  Atheists can be moral, anti-big government too.  The fight is against the Markism, Socialism, Fascism, Communism crowd.  They love divide and conquer.

snazy2 said:

LBJ pulled the teeth from American churchs in 1954 using 501c3 tax exempt status. It is a contract between the church and the Gov't that effectively silences a church on gov't matters.

Church do not have to and should not go 501c3. Churches can go from 501c3 to non 501c3. Check out

http://hushmoney.org/501c3-facts.htm

Helping the poor should have been left to the churchs and county homes . Mental institutions should have been left alone. Now we have "Street People" instead of having vagrants taken to a home. If they were able they helped support the home by working on the farm. Liberals said that was degrading so now we pay young girls to have babies and sell drugs.

Back in the 50's you could leave your door unlocked. Now I live on a farm on a six mile long dirt road and have one murderer, four drug dealers and nine thieves for neighbors, and the cops do nothing.

 

By the way I am pro-christian atheist. Atheists can be moral, anti-big government too. The fight is against the Markism, Socialism, Fascism, Communism crowd. They love divide and conquer.

 

Kent Hovind is now trapped in this whole 501c3 mess.

Your term is interesting. Christians are those who believe in Christ Jesus, atheists are those who don't believe in God. Then what is "pro-christian atheist" means? since "there is no God". By the way, for this statement, I will ask right away: "how do you know?" I have yet heard a good answer.

Or are you more like an agnostic, someone who is not sure there is God?