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April 9, 2008 07:42 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Source:Idahostatesman 4/8/08

I read this in my newspaper and found it interesting.

Both were founded by post-christ prophets ,emphasize family and been isolated in America.An open mosque day held last fall at the islamic center of Irvine in calif, half of the guest were Mormon."A Mormon living in an Islamic society would feel very comfortable"said steve young a member of the L.D.S attending the event.

The sentiment is echoed by muslims."when I go to a Mormon Church I feel at ease",Said Haitham Bundakji,former chairman of the Islamic society of orange county.

What binds them is more on shared values and a sense of Isolation from mainstream America and has little to do with theology.



For all who have fallen,we must move forward But, for the right reasons.*In my mind, so called "legal residency" is just as a threat as illegal immigration and it the missing topic in the immigration debate.*Every man dies,but not every man truely lives*
April 9, 2008 08:26 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Yea, but you better believe that the Muslim would slit the morman throat for not worshipping allah..... 



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The sooner Mecca's ambient temperature is raised to roughly 250,000 degrees fahrenheit, the better....
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April 9, 2008 09:21 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Right,So why don't the Mormons realize that ?

For all who have fallen,we must move forward But, for the right reasons.*In my mind, so called "legal residency" is just as a threat as illegal immigration and it the missing topic in the immigration debate.*Every man dies,but not every man truely lives*
April 10, 2008 08:50 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Because everyone is a children of God.  There are plenty of peaceful Muslims out there and from my experience Mormons get more flack and abuse from "mainstream" Christianity than any other group.

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April 10, 2008 09:43 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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"Peaceful" moslems are only peaceful for the moment.  THe end goal of islam is making everyone in the world submit to Sharia Law or be killed.  Religion of peace my ass,  it is a kill cult, and some Mormons are not always wise enough to see that.  You can bet that a lot of them don't believe islam is out for anything except their deaths in the long run.

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April 10, 2008 04:23 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Dyne said: Because everyone is a children of God.  There are plenty of peaceful Muslims out there and from my experience Mormons get more flack and abuse from "mainstream" Christianity than any other group.

 

Right,Could it be because mormons call themselves christains when there not.Example:Jesus christ is everything to a christian.Mormons look at him differently,as a figure that is kinda just over there.They live a life of bondage under the Church.Everything is the Church and not Jesus.All though recently the Church is trying to make an effort to try to incorpret Jesus more because of outside pressure.I think that is great.It is just the church changing like it did so much in the past in order to survive.

For all who have fallen,we must move forward But, for the right reasons.*In my mind, so called "legal residency" is just as a threat as illegal immigration and it the missing topic in the immigration debate.*Every man dies,but not every man truely lives*
April 10, 2008 04:28 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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California Refugee said:
Dyne said: Because everyone is a children of God.  There are plenty of peaceful Muslims out there and from my experience Mormons get more flack and abuse from "mainstream" Christianity than any other group.

 

Right,Could it be because mormons call themselves christains when there not.Example:Jesus christ is everything to a christian.Mormons look at him differently,as a figure that is kinda just over there.They live a life of bondage under the Church.Everything is the Church and not Jesus.All though recently the Church is trying to make an effort to try to incorpret Jesus more because of outside pressure.I think that is great.It is just the church changing like it did so much in the past in order to survive.

 

Sorry, but if I want to learn more about what Mormons believe, I'll go straight to the proper source and ask one of them.



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I support the troops who still have moral values, but I don't worship them. I do not support the occupation of Iraq. I believe the opposite of anything George W. Bush says and support Chuck Baldwin for President. I am a Mormon, Libertarian, 9/11 Truther, Alex Jones listener, Ron Paul supporter, and proud of it!
April 10, 2008 04:32 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated April 10, 2008 04:41 PM
Dyne said:
California Refugee said:
Dyne said: Because everyone is a children of God.  There are plenty of peaceful Muslims out there and from my experience Mormons get more flack and abuse from "mainstream" Christianity than any other group.

 

Right,Could it be because mormons call themselves christains when there not.Example:Jesus christ is everything to a christian.Mormons look at him differently,as a figure that is kinda just over there.They live a life of bondage under the Church.Everything is the Church and not Jesus.All though recently the Church is trying to make an effort to try to incorpret Jesus more because of outside pressure.I think that is great.It is just the church changing like it did so much in the past in order to survive.

 

Sorry, but if I want to learn more about what Mormons believe, I'll go straight to the proper source and ask one of them.

 

The problem with that is that Mormons are taught to only listen to what their Church tells them,you see. besides,I was just responding to when you said that mainstream christians  give them flack.

For all who have fallen,we must move forward But, for the right reasons.*In my mind, so called "legal residency" is just as a threat as illegal immigration and it the missing topic in the immigration debate.*Every man dies,but not every man truely lives*
April 12, 2008 09:29 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Yea, but you better believe that the Muslim would slit the morman throat for not worshipping allah..... 

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Maybe in Iraq, but not in the US.



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April 12, 2008 09:55 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Mormons ARE Christians.  They DO believe Christ is their Savior.  Frankly I'm a little sick and tired of hearing this bullcrap about them being non-Christians, or a sect, etc.  Usually such crap comes from those who know jack about the church, don't know a single Mormon, and only are repeating what some ignorant moron told them. 

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April 12, 2008 10:51 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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What they have in common are some horny old men hiding behind their extreme beliefs. Most Mormons are good people, Muslims has a few good ones too.  Not many, but a few.

2 Chronicles 7:14
April 12, 2008 01:10 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Imafreeagent said:

Yea, but you better believe that the Muslim would slit the morman throat for not worshipping allah..... 

++

Maybe in Iraq, but not in the US.

 

And why not?



Rayj
First you're born, you pay taxes, you die.
Then your next of kin has to pay more taxes
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This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.
Tom Tancredo - 2007
Tom's Military Rules of Engagement: WE WIN!

Winston Churchill - "An appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last."

"Victory will never be found by taking the line of least resistance."

Proud member of the NRA....although I don't even own a pistol or rifle......

The sooner Mecca's ambient temperature is raised to roughly 250,000 degrees fahrenheit, the better....
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein, US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

April 12, 2008 07:21 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Rayj00 said:
Imafreeagent said:

Yea, but you better believe that the Muslim would slit the morman throat for not worshipping allah..... 

++

Maybe in Iraq, but not in the US.

 

And why not?

 

I'm acquainted with several Muslims and have found them to be productive, peaceful, law-abiding citizens.  Two were robbed and tied up in their convenience store last year by some Mexicans who were later captured and arrested.  I've never heard of a case where a Muslim slit a Morman's throat in this country for not worshipping Allah.  This might happen in a Muslim country, but in the US? 

Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom. (Alexis de Tocqueville)
April 12, 2008 07:30 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Imafreeagent said:
Rayj00 said:
Imafreeagent said:

Yea, but you better believe that the Muslim would slit the morman throat for not worshipping allah..... 

++

Maybe in Iraq, but not in the US.

 

And why not?

 

I'm acquainted with several Muslims and have found them to be productive, peaceful, law-abiding citizens.  Two were robbed and tied up in their convenience store last year by some Mexicans who were later captured and arrested.  I've never heard of a case where a Muslim slit a Morman's throat in this country for not worshipping Allah.  This might happen in a Muslim country, but in the US? 

 

It might not be done by your friends, but could it be done?  The guy in Tx killed his own daughters.  Do you really think he worried about where he was?



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April 12, 2008 08:04 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I'm acquainted with several Muslims and have found them to be productive, peaceful, law-abiding citizens.  Two were robbed and tied up in their convenience store last year by some Mexicans who were later captured and arrested.  I've never heard of a case where a Muslim slit a Morman's throat in this country for not worshipping Allah.  This might happen in a Muslim country, but in the US? 

 

It might not be done by your friends, but could it be done?  The guy in Tx killed his own daughters.  Do you really think he worried about where he was?

 ++

I've read of cases where this happened in the US within a family, most often to "save" their culture-shocked teenagers from corruption, but never between Muslims and non-Moslems.  Have you? 



Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom. (Alexis de Tocqueville)
April 12, 2008 08:42 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Imafreeagent said: I'm acquainted with several Muslims and have found them to be productive, peaceful, law-abiding citizens.  Two were robbed and tied up in their convenience store last year by some Mexicans who were later captured and arrested.  I've never heard of a case where a Muslim slit a Morman's throat in this country for not worshipping Allah.  This might happen in a Muslim country, but in the US? 

 

It might not be done by your friends, but could it be done?  The guy in Tx killed his own daughters.  Do you really think he worried about where he was?

 ++

I've read of cases where this happened in the US within a family, most often to "save" their culture-shocked teenagers from corruption, but never between Muslims and non-Moslems.  Have you? 

 

So because you have never heard of a case means it will never happen?

It happens all of the time in the middle east. Believe me, it won't be long until there is a beheading in England, which means it is not far off until it happens here...... 



Rayj
First you're born, you pay taxes, you die.
Then your next of kin has to pay more taxes
on your funeral! How fair is that?

http://www.fairtax.org
FairTax Calculator!

This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.
Tom Tancredo - 2007
Tom's Military Rules of Engagement: WE WIN!

Winston Churchill - "An appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last."

"Victory will never be found by taking the line of least resistance."

Proud member of the NRA....although I don't even own a pistol or rifle......

The sooner Mecca's ambient temperature is raised to roughly 250,000 degrees fahrenheit, the better....
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein, US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

April 13, 2008 05:55 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Rayj00 said:
Imafreeagent said: I'm acquainted with several Muslims and have found them to be productive, peaceful, law-abiding citizens.  Two were robbed and tied up in their convenience store last year by some Mexicans who were later captured and arrested.  I've never heard of a case where a Muslim slit a Morman's throat in this country for not worshipping Allah.  This might happen in a Muslim country, but in the US? 

 

It might not be done by your friends, but could it be done?  The guy in Tx killed his own daughters.  Do you really think he worried about where he was?

 ++

I've read of cases where this happened in the US within a family, most often to "save" their culture-shocked teenagers from corruption, but never between Muslims and non-Moslems.  Have you? 

 

So because you have never heard of a case means it will never happen?

It happens all of the time in the middle east. Believe me, it won't be long until there is a beheading in England, which means it is not far off until it happens here...... 

Come to think of it, it has happened here --  on September 11, 2001.  We were on a group tour in Europe, checked into our hotel, turned on the TV and saw the second tower fall.  Returned to the States in early October and learned that the hijacking conspirators had planned to hijack some British Airways planes.  Could have been I who had her head separated from the rest of .. herself.  You win.



Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom. (Alexis de Tocqueville)
April 13, 2008 06:08 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I am glad you reasoned about it.  I strongly believe that it is the mindset of a fundementalist who will stop at nothing for his cause.  That is why I say yes, they would kill anybody anywhere.

2 Chronicles 7:14

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