Rogue Government

Deerhunter:  You posted an article from Global Research on the thread “Gov’t Complicit in Bankrupting U.S.” about the deployment of U.S. troops in Canada.  That thread seems to have died out, but I hope you're still around......Your post disturbed me to the core and I just today found this further info.  Perhaps it should have gone on the Martial Law thread, but that one, too, has died.  Amazing that all the posters on FS come out in droves over Barack Obama's racism speech, but some of the really urgent issues that need to be addressed, discussed and circulated seem to be put on the back burner! I’m creating a new thread, mainly in the hopes that all will just read this article and beware, but there, most likely, will not be many comments.  This is from Daneen Peterson’s web site: 

Here is the latest unauthorized bi-lateral treaty agreement (check your dictionary for a definition of a 'treaty') signed without Congressional approval as a law, AND, in violation of our Constitution which requires that ALL treaties to come before the Senate for a 2/3rd majority 'yea' vote for ratification:

NORTHCOM Furthers NAU Police State Agenda

The criminals in the U.S. government are continuing the push for a militarized North American Union police state. According to an announcement on U.S. Northern Command’s web site, an agreement has been signed between U.S. Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) and Canada Command (CANADACOM) that allows the military from either nation to support the armed forces of the other during a civil emergency. This agreement helps to further erode the sovereignty of both nations by allowing a foreign military to support that nation’s military during any type of civil emergency. Essentially, Canadian military forces would be allowed to support U.S. military forces during a declaration of martial law. This is just another step towards the formation of a North American Union martial law apparatus which USNORTHCOM unveiled with the public release of their Vision 2020 document. The Vision 2020 document outlines plans for USNORTHCOM to seek closer ties with various military institutions, government bodies and private entities in the U.S., Canada and Mexico leading up until the year 2020. Below is the press release from Northern Command in its entirety. U.S. Air Force Gen. Gene Renuart, commander of North American Aerospace Defense Command and U.S. Northern Command, and Canadian Air Force Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, commander of Canada Command, have signed a Civil Assistance Plan that allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency. “This document is a unique, bilateral military plan to align our respective national military plans to respond quickly to the other nation's requests for military support of civil authorities,” Renuart said. “Unity of effort during bilateral support for civil support operations such as floods, forest fires, hurricanes, earthquakes and effects of a terrorist attack, in order to save lives, prevent human suffering and mitigate damage to property, is of the highest importance, and we need to be able to have forces that are flexible and adaptive to support rapid decision-making in a collaborative environment.” “The signing of this plan is an important symbol of the already strong working relationship between Canada Command and U.S. Northern Command,” Dumais said. “Our commands were created by our respective governments to respond to the defense and security challenges of the twenty-first century, and we both realize that these and other challenges are best met through cooperation between friends.” The plan recognizes the role of each nation's lead federal agency for emergency preparedness, which in the United States is the Department of Homeland Security and in Canada is Public Safety Canada. The plan facilitates the military-to-military support of civil authorities once government authorities have agreed on an appropriate response. U.S. Northern Command was established on Oct. 1, 2002, to anticipate and conduct homeland defense and civil support operations within the assigned area of responsibility to defend, protect, and secure the United States and its interests. Similarly, Canada Command was established on Feb. 1, 2006, to focus on domestic operations and to offer a single point of contact for all domestic and continental defense and security partners. The two domestic commands established strong bilateral ties well before the signing of the Civil Assistance Plan. The two commanders and their staffs meet regularly, collaborate on contingency planning and participate in related annual exercises. If the establishment was really supportive of protecting U.S. national sovereignty why on earth would they allow USNORTHCOM to establish an agreement with Canada that allows their military to support our military during civil emergencies? This is a direct violation of each nation’s sovereignty and another obvious step towards a North American Union. Clearly, the U.S. government is ratcheting up their plans for martial law and using the phony threat of homegrown terrorism as an excuse to implement their militarized police state agenda. The threat of martial law is finally now being reported in the establishment media. The San Francisco Chronicle recently ran a report on plans for martial law which covers important issues such as Bush’s NSPD-51 which makes the president a dictator during a catastrophic emergency, HR 1955 which classifies thought crimes as potential terrorist acts, KBR detention centers, the Military Commission Act and more. We broke the NSPD-51 and HR 1955 stories last year and both have been major topics of conversation in the alternative media for quite sometime.

There is no question that the U.S. government is preparing for martial law domestically, but the long term goal is to establish a martial law apparatus for North America. They are merely beginning the implementation of what has been announced in the Vision 2020 document. There is little question that this deal between USNORTHCOM and CANADACOM is another step towards forming a North American Union that is ruled by a militarized police state.

                             

                    http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=6810

  

 

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This information has got to be forwarded to Lou Dobbs, Glenn Beck and others who are able to get it out to the people.  I know that it is useless to try to get MSM to report this.  They are all bought and paid for and will not report any information that tells what this government is really doing to us.  We are in deep trouble and most people don't have a clue.  This is unconstitutional and needs to be stopped but how in the world can we get it stopped?  Our government is so corrupt that unless we have an all out revolution we are helpless.  I don't know how to get this to Lou and others or I would be glad to do so but PLEASE someone do it.  Maybe if we all write letters to the editors of our local papers with this information a few may publish it.  We've got to try everything we can.  My guess is that this is happening because this government knows that once the NAU is a done deal there will be an uprising and they will need losts of police to try to control us.

Many are saying US will declare war on Iran before November elections. McCain, Cheney and Gates made recent trip that further suggests invasion. I believe government is trying to cause uprising by the people in order to declare martial law many protests now over Iraq.

Labrador said:

Deerhunter:  You posted an article from Global Research on the thread “Gov’t Complicit in Bankrupting U.S.” about the deployment of U.S. troops in Canada.  That thread seems to have died out, but I hope you're still around......Your post disturbed me to the core and I just today found this further info.  Perhaps it should have gone on the Martial Law thread, but that one, too, has died.  Amazing that all the posters on FS come out in droves over Barack Obama's racism speech, but some of the really urgent issues that need to be addressed, discussed and circulated seem to be put on the back burner! I’m creating a new thread, mainly in the hopes that all will just read this article and beware, but there, most likely, will not be many comments. 

Labrador:

Don't ever think even for a second that I am not concerned, aware and monitoring these situations.  I know that there will come a time when taxes and the cost of living are going to become so high things are going to pop.  The public will finally care and when they do, watch out.  THIS IS A GOOD THING    IF        we all support the return to liberty by way of the word, spirit and intent of the Constitution, AS INTERPETED by the founding fathers, who drafted it, and that era in time.  I do have a concern that Government may talk many of us into capitulation "for our own good".  I call it the final ultimatum.   The choice of a temporary but terrible hardship for a period of years resulting in eventual freedom and individual prosperity or, the ultimatum - instant relief from the horror with nothing but mediocrity and total governmental control and tyranny to look forward to.

The only thing that can stop either a war or the people waking up and reaching "critical mass" in the form of activism for freedom to save us from its horrors, is if we let our Government tax all the people in Canada and Mexico through the establishment of an NAU like scenario.  If that ever happens, our (freedom) goose is cooked.  And, with it, our individual prosperity.  Unless you are in a higher government position you will be as poor as anybody else.

 

Capt:  I wonder just how many out there are really willing to undergo the hardships and sacrifices (perhaps even the ultimate sacrifice) for freedom.  We have all lived in a generation where we've known nothing but freedom - we've heard and seen about the atrocities committed by tyranny governments, but that is so far removed from the way we have lived our lives it simply doesn't register with most. 

I too have thought about the scenario when Americans will finally say enough with the absolutely insane direction we are going.  But just how much real bravery is out there?  I too am concerned that in this age of instant gratification they will capitulate and fall down like dominoes to the threat.

The laws are in place, at this very moment for the creation of a police state here.  It seems no one believes this.  How sad for us!

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Labrador said:

Capt:  I wonder just how many out there are really willing to undergo the hardships and sacrifices (perhaps even the ultimate sacrifice) for freedom.  We have all lived in a generation where we've known nothing but freedom - we've heard and seen about the atrocities committed by tyranny governments, but that is so far removed from the way we have lived our lives it simply doesn't register with most. 

I too have thought about the scenario when Americans will finally say enough with the absolutely insane direction we are going.  But just how much real bravery is out there?  I too am concerned that in this age of instant gratification they will capitulate and fall down like dominoes to the threat.

The laws are in place, at this very moment for the creation of a police state here.  It seems no one believes this.  How sad for us!

 

You are wrong one account, but I do not blame you.   The only place Americans have lived in Freedom, since sometime after The Federal Reserve Act of 1913, has been only as perceived in our minds.  I actually have some evidence that feminism was initiated by The Federal Reserve so that instead of taxing one person in a family they would be able to tax two.

  

Think about it, Labrador:  When one stayed home and did all the cooking, cleaning, taking care of the kids, grocery shopping during the day, taking care of school matters during the day, took care of their sick children at home, took care of some maintenance around the home, etc., that allowed both husband and wife to have far more free time.   When the husband or wife, I am not gender biased really, I just believe that one person in a family should take care of the home stuff, I don’t think it is so important who, that left free time in the evening for both parents. 

Now a days, when people get home everything is in catch-up mode.  You never seem to get ahead because there is so darn much to do around the house.  There is no end to it because nobody is at home all day to do it.  Add the kids stuff to that and you, neither husband nor wife, really have  time.  If you have no time how do you have the time to find out about what the Government is doing and even if you do, where are you going to get the time to do anything about it?  Even writing a letter to a Congressman is very difficult.  This was all apart of the grand plan of The Federal Reserve, the largest most powerful Corporation in the entire world.

  

I haven’t had the time to check it out but I wouldn’t doubt that The Federal Reserve was behind the TV show “All in The Family”.  That show is from the Devil himself.  If you get passed the (sick) humor and look far from the outside, you will see that it makes fun and laughs at true freedom, family values, morals, our UNIQUE American “Cowboy” Culture, individualism, capitalism, and even God himself.  Ah Geeeez! As Archie would say..    The actors supported gay lifestyles and all manner of ungodliness.  The show really destroyed any vestige in the importance of a traditional family or values.   All the actors of that TV show should go straight to hell for what they did to America and our families.  Look at the America hating Rob Reiner (Meathead) to this very day.  He is one very sick individual.  He is a Meathead!  One of these days I am going to investigate that show and I’d just about be willing to bet The Federal Reserve is connected to it somehow.

  In any case my point to all of this is that we have not lived in “freedom”, only perceived freedom; all the while The Federal Reserve, The largest corporation on Earth, are collecting our Income Taxes, from both parents, for their own use.  Purposefully creating a situation where both people are working just to earn the same purchasing power / capacity that they had when only one was working.  Boy did we fall for that one!  And, all for the God forsaken philosophy of “All in The Family” feminism, tolerance to the point of multiculturalism setting us up for “It’s a Small World After All, It’s a Small World After All, It’s a Small World After All, It’s a Small Small (ONE) WORLD (ORDER).  It’s enough to make me sick right here.   Boy have we all been brainwashed and suckered by the bankers who OWN THE “FED” - The Matrix.  We’re all suckers and the “FED” is having the last laugh!

I SAY to hell with them.  I want my freedom and my individual prosperity back!  I want it where one person can make the income of two, like it used to be before the basta*ds fooled our population into feminism and the very corruption of our traditional loving families.

  

I got a flier the other day from the school where our kids go.  It talked about how important it is to have “family time”.  Up to that point I was right with them.  What I read that followed made me sick to my stomach.  It said try to get together slowly at first, try to have just one meal together once every two weeks.  Oh my God, has it really come to that?

  No wonder most of our nation doesn’t have the time to watch over Government!  We don’t even have the time to sit down for a real meal with our whole family on a daily basis.  This is really sick!  My older kids are telling me that women don’t even almost ever cook anymore unless it is something from the frozen food isle, instant or a TV Dinner type meal.  What have we let The Matrix (The Federal Reserve) turn us into?  We don’t even care for our own kids enough to even cook them a real homemade meal and sit down with them at the dinner table?  What is a matter with us?  Don’t we see what The Matrix has done to us?

 

Let me ask you folks, answer to yourselves, how close is your family?  How often do you do things together with your kids and family together?  If it is hard to get yourself to do things with and FOR your family, what has The Matrix, the sham of supposed "freedom" that you believe you have in your mind, done to you?

You'll get no argument from me, Capt, about the state of our society.  I laughed out loud when I read your comment about cooking (I love to cook, but it seems it has become a lost art these days). 

I'm grateful to you for the way you've tried to educate everyone about the Fed Reserve (although I think for many it is very abstract).  You, my friend, are an asset to this forum.

The Fed Reserve and the Money Manipulators are all part of it as well as recent laws that have diminished our freedoms and put us in all in grave straits - the plan by a few to restructure our world, hold us captive and drain us dry!

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“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” -- Thomas Jefferson

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Were the founding fathers such geniuses or were they time travelers who traveled forward in time to present day?  The education they had regarding history, government and economics is entirely and extraordinarily incredible; almost to the extent of unbelievable.

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If we could only rewind the tape of time and prevent any perversion of the word, intent and spirit of The Constitution, we would be so individually prosperous and things would be so much less in cost, it would be utterly inconcevable.  And if that weren't enough, we would truely be free (from Government and "The Matrix" (The Federal Reserve)). 

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 Government employees and officials would be our servants.  And believe me, they could be fired.

What each of us needs to do is go through the first post here, send pertinent information to your 3 bozos in Congress and demand an answer for why this is.    And, I mean....be tough.   They work for us....w/ *our* money.   Don't ever forget it! 

Though my congressman is one of the most conservative, I send stuff to two here in Houston.   They find out a lot that's going on from net news....they don't know about a lot of this....truly.   I know for a fact that's how both of them discovered the Ramos/Compean mess.   It wasn't in the media and no great floor page brought it to them either.   And, why don't they know?   You just can't imagine the volumes they have to read every day.   It's impossible for them to know all that's going on.

And, good for you, Labrador, for bringing this up!

Dobbs and Beck will have their staff research it, and then they'll let it fly.  BTW, Mawmaw, go to LouDobbs.com.   You can send him an email....over on the right of his website....anytime.   And, do.   As you can see, he welcomes it.   And, anyone else....be mah guest!

You want to really watch some credible tapes of all of this?   Go to Google and write in Aaron Russo.   He has some stuff that will curl your hair!   He is the one who explained the women's lib movement right outta Rockefeller's mouth.   The Rockefellers are poison.

Don't ever listen to "net conspiracy."   It goes into the same category as "you are a racist" when talking about the illegals and everything known to man which displeases is "political correctness."

Capt. Karl, greed and power are not new. Our founding fathers were certainly aware of these evils look at the battles they fought for freedom. I have diary of Robert E Lee's sister and very old books handed down through my family one letter states "I am no politician- but am pleased to hear the new constitution is likely to be adopted as I pay great deference to your opinion and judgement in weighty matters and as you think it will conduce to the happiness and prosperity of America- I have not a doubt but it will." N. S. June 8, 1788. You see our ancestors had a vision for the future of America.

Our evil government has succeeded separating Americans that is how you win is it not? Divide into many parts and defeat. I simply do not believe that one cannot find a moment to send Congress an email or letter. Too busy is an excuse not to get involved or I don't want to do that. The vast majority of persons I talk with are blind to the government evil. Why?

Two problems I see are CFR controlled media and Non profit churches (separation of church and state).

 

 

One thing I'd like to know is HOW can the military (not Congress, not even the C-I-C) sign a bi-lateral treaty?  How is this possible?  Please, someone explain this to me!  Where did they get this authority?

Suzi:  "What each of us needs to do is go through the first post here, send pertinent information to your 3 bozos in Congress and demand an answer for why this is.    And, I mean....be tough.   They work for us....w/ *our* money.   Don't ever forget it!"

Oh suzi, I've tried!  I'm sure you are familiar with the standard form letter you will get back as a reply!   

 

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Bugbaggers said:

Capt. Karl, greed and power are not new. Our founding fathers were certainly aware of these evils look at the battles they fought for freedom. I have diary of Robert E Lee's sister and very old books handed down through my family one letter states "I am no politician- but am pleased to hear the new constitution is likely to be adopted as I pay great deference to your opinion and judgement in weighty matters and as you think it will conduce to the happiness and prosperity of America- I have not a doubt but it will." N. S. June 8, 1788. You see our ancestors had a vision for the future of America.

 Our evil government has succeeded separating Americans that is how you win is it not? Divide into many parts and defeat. I simply do not believe that one cannot find a moment to send Congress an email or letter. Too busy is an excuse not to get involved or I don't want to do that. The vast majority of persons I talk with are blind to the government evil. Why?

Two problems I see are CFR controlled media and Non profit churches (separation of church and state).

 

 

 

I love Revolutionary history Mr. Bugbaggers.  I wonder if you would be so kind as to indulge me in an expansion of discussion with regards to your fascinating letter.  What an honor to have such a letter!   Just the thought of having such a treasure in my hands, that existed and was about the times and trials of the process that brought, for the first time in Earthly history, FREEDOM - a process where “popular sovereignty” ignited the greatest individual wealth generating machine that ever existed, would be extraordinary. 

 Main Entry: popular sovereignty Function: noun Date: 1848

1 : a doctrine in political theory that government is created by and subject to the will of the people

 

Please, can you tell me who actually wrote the letter and to whom it was sent?  I may wish, in interest of history and further education, to explore and expand on your artifact.

 

In answer to your valid question about why so many people refuse to see Government evil (and this does not mean Bush evil),  I propose the following:

 

First of all, the problem with Government lies primarily with Both Houses of Congress.  They have the purse strings and they are the ones who have held the Constitution in contempt since 1913.  They are, to this very day , trying to figure out how to tax us MORE without political harm.  That is not a good attitude is it?  The power to tax is the power to destroy, control and manipulate.  That is why the only legal taxes according to the Constitution and according to The Supreme Court cases are to be “apportioned” - meaning the exact same dollar amount to all people regardless of wealth.  In other words taxes are almost politically impossible, except for very short durations, perhaps during war. 

 

The Supreme Court found in 1913 that the 16th Amendment (which wasn't ratified in veracity) did not provide for taxation on the average American citizen.  There are a few in Government who really do not want tax increases.  But even they do not want to strictly adhere to The Constitution.  So the "EVIL" in Government is by far and away the Congressional branches of Government, who has produced heinous legislation with utter disrespect for the Constitution, followed by the Judicial Branch (also contemptuous of the Constitution in recent history) and lastly the Executive Branch.  Why is the Executive Branch last in the chronological order of evil?  Because, most likely, of term limits.  That being said James Earl Carter did bring into Government several Socialist / Communist members of the Trilateral Commission and did great harm to our country.  Almost every member of his administration was a card carrying member.  You, perhaps, remember what our economy was like back then.  And, no leadership to change it nor desire to change it.  Thank, God LITTERALLY I believe, for sending us Ronald Reagan, who saved our country from the depths of the hell of the equal distribution of misery otherwise known as socialism; the goal of the élite Trilateralists, one government world awash in multiculturalism and PCism who are working to enslave us “for our own good”.

 

We must find our resolve to get a handle on Congress!  If we have that, we can control the direction of Government, for we can change and alter the birthplace of laws that we must live under and the financial wallet of manipulation and control that now runs our daily lives as was feared by our Founding Fathers.  Congress has given that wallet of manipulation and control to “The FED” who has created “The Matrix” world we find ourselves in today.  Therefore, The FED, has to be the first to go.  How can we do anything in a World programmed by The FED where they have absolute control over each one of our INDIVIDUAL lives through the power of their collection agency full of “AGENTS” called the IRS.  If you see an AGENT in a dark suit and dark sunglasses stating that he is there to “help you”.  Run!  For just like in the movie they are not interested in your health!

 

Okay, now let’s answer your question:

 

1.      The Matrix created feminism so that very few people would have enough time to learn and understand what is happening to them.  Both people are working (and paying taxes, imagine that!) instead of one.

 

2.      Feminism has provided The Matrix with far more power and financial resources with which to brainwash us, manipulate and control us through additional “control” laws and things such as “Global Warming” (the Mother of all brainwashing and manipulation stratagem).

 

3.      People have to put more time in at work to have the “purchasing power” they need to procure and/or maintain “The American Dream”.

 

4.      Feminism has had a multiplying effect on time loss per family unit because with both people working full time the only time they have to take care of the home with housekeeping, washing, maintenance, clothes washing, kid stuff and the mass of things that takes (driving around, homework, making sure they clean their rooms, trying to find the time to instill values, etc., etc., etc., can only be done in the little “free” time they have from work.  There are only a couple of hours available during the week.  A person needs to relax at least a little.  You have to eat somehow.  Some like to have some recreational outlet.  With all that going on in our lives plus nobody staying at home to “clear the board” as it were, nobody feels they have the time or, because of that, desire to spend the precious moments they have studying, learning and then doing something about these concerns that you and I have.  Even though they are critical to not only our individual prosperity but also our FREEDOM.  This is the very reason that The Federal Reserve System “The Matrix” created feminism.  It worked.  And in the process it destroyed our families and it even destroyed love.  How many mothers now say “I hate it when my kids are out of school and around all the time.”  My God, those are precious moments that I think some people only realize when they are finally retired and only a few years from their death – when it is too late to turn back time and reverse the ways of “The Matrix” called feminism and the loss of love for ones own children and even their husbands.  Look at all the divorces.  Do you know that in 1996 there was a study that showed that 85 % of all divorce the women just decided that they do not love their husband anymore and just walked out, often with another man on the side?  Out of those divorces less than 10% would be what most people would call valid reasons like drugs, alcohol, severe domestic violence, criminal behavior, etc…  Divorce is good for the enhancement of the power and financial benefit of “The Matrix” – The Federal Reserve System.  There is a form of income transfer which, over time, results in additional opportunities for “The Matrix” to collect more taxes.

 

5.      Additionally, broken families and broken values, results in public weakness.  Strong families and strong values results in strong public resolve.  Another reason The Matrix programmed our minds in the way of feminism.

 

6.      In short, there is such a loss of time and money in today’s society due to feminism that people don’t want to take the time it takes to really get involved.  Some don’t even want to know about it at all because they don’t want to worry about it or worse loose even more time out of their lives.

 

7.      There is one more big perhaps huge reason.  Take my oldest son, for example.  He earned his Masters in Physical Therapy and is making a very good living and his income is increasing year after year.  He is doing well and his future looks bright from an income perspective.  Do you think he wants any changes to the general economic system, after he has everything wired down the way he thinks he wants it?  It is like a quote from “The Matrix” movie: “The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.”

 

1. Some people are like Cypher in The Matrix movie: ……. Cypher: You know, I know this steak doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After nine years, you know what I realize?
   [Takes a bite of steak]
   Cypher: Ignorance is bliss.

 

1. There are many people who will refuse to take the “RED PILL”, they do not want to know about the evil of “The Matrix”  The Federal Reserve System that has complete control over our Government and our daily lives.  The System that sucks money right out of our bank accounts and our paychecks by what is called INCOME TAXES, the taxes you have just paid or are soon to pay in a few days.  It is all going to approximately forty people who own The Federal Reserve System.  All your hard work, all your earnings that is taken from you by The (IRS) Agents of “The Matrix” none of it is going to the U.S. Government.  NOT A PENNY!  It is going to the forty people and it is owned by the forty people who own “The FED” They do not have to lend it to The U.S. Government if they don’t want to.  They are a “PRIVATELY held Company of 12 PRIVATE BANKS!  Just as you, when I think of how stupid it is for people to do this it drives me crazy.  Why are our fellow countrymen giving their money to these forty guys who are doing nothing more than using us as their slaves and are going to use their own money against them and against their Freedom and prosperity?  But yet I know the answers as I have written them here.  I feel like Charleton Hestin in Planet of The Apes where he screams; “THIS IS A MAD HOUSE!”

Bugbaggers said:

RADDATZ: Two-third of Americans say it's not worth fighting.

CHENEY: So?

RADDATZ: So? You don't care what the American people think?

CHENEY: No.

VIDEO HERE.

 

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/80244/

 

1. I don't trust every blog website.
2. You need to understand what The Caliphate is and that it really does exist.
3. You need to know what The Caliphate's marching orders are.
4. You need to find out from what document The Caliphate's marching orders come from.

After you have completed your homework assignment, come back here and write a more appropriate post, such as why we haven't been attacked since we invaded Iraq.

Yes, you might mention that a lot of the sources and groups I reference are against the war on terror.  But it is crazy to do so.  And, I am more than happy to debate with my associates with regards to this matter.  I know for a fact that The Caliphate exists!  It isn't very hard to prove.  It freaks me out that otherwise seemingly wise people don't want to acknowledge The Caliphate.  It almost seems like some kind of evil force has a hold of their minds.  Some of these people are otherwise my heroes and idols.  I don't understand it.  I only know they are wrong.  I know that the Caliphate exists and it exists as part of the very basis, the very core of their culture as per the document that envelopes it.  The document that causes them to do the evil things they do, such as chopping off heads of innocent reporters and blowing up 4 -6 year old children they send in with bomb vests on.  They call them F-11s.  The 11 represents their legs.  And the mothers who send them in to kill innocent people eating in restuarants not having anything to do with anything are "proud" of what they did to their kids and happy about the innocent "infidels" they killed.  I know there are those among us that constantly state that nothing is black and white (I don't agree) but if this type of cultural behavior isn't absolute "pure" evil I don't know what is.

The Caliphate has been at full scale war, with what their resources could muster against a Superpower since 1979.  They have attacked us a multitude of times since that date in time and have killed nearly Ten Thousand AMERICANS and friends of AMERICANS on American property.  You need to study this.  (Hint: Not all American property is in the U.S.)

Not only do you have to do research, you need to think for yourself and research several sources.  If you need help with your research on The Caliphate and the war they have waged against AMERICANS and NOT OUR GOVERNMENT let me know.  If you find the document that gives The Caliphate their marching orders you will also find out why they "must" kill all people who are of the true "standard" traditional UNIQUE American Culture, "for it is written".

Lack of understanding of what The Caliphate is, is the ONLY reason that I could not vote whole heartedly for Dr. Ron Paul.  Freedom can not exist, where it does not nor where there are none to behold.

Good luck.  Again, if you need any help, please ask.

 

Capt Karl--- Labrador--

 But just how much real bravery is out there?  I too am concerned that in this age of instant gratification they will capitulate and fall down like dominoes to the threat.

Most of us will fold when they threaten our families. It has been the way of the enemy and dictators since the beginning of time. I can imagine how I could resist, for myself, but if they threatened my children or grandchildren, it would be all over.

This treaty with Canada regarding mutual support in the event of civil unrest SHOULD be the largest, boldest red flag put before Americans to see where  the country is going. Why, in the course of the history of the USA (and Canada too) would such a treaty be needed??? What is anticipated???

The people who sneer at those of us who believe in the efforts to create a North American Union will be mouth agape saying, "How did this happen?". Why would we need a mutual civil unrest support agreement unless "unrest" was expected? What would cause "unrest"?

Perhaps TV would go off and America would pull its head out of its butt and pay attention to what is happening. Do you realize how few of us there are who have an idea of what is happening?? I have friends who are convinced nothing bad will ever happen to America. Business is good , they are living comfortably, why worry? When I share some thoughts regarding NAU, or where the SPP could lead to the NAU. I hear, "Well those are good things that the government is trying to do.".

When the time comes that these "civil unrest" troops are standing and facing those who are "unrestful". the question arises, will they shoot, will they inflict violence, will they do as ordered if their Dads and Moms are in the groups they face. I was in the military. I know I would not. My love and respect for my parents and their knowledge would never let me do anything except stand with them.

This is America, We are strong, we are good, but the only way we will survive is if the majority of the population rises up and insisits on the sovereignty and Constitutional rights of America.

The problem I have here is that almost everyone who reads this is one of those who is aware. We need new converts. Somehow we need to reach out and let the wide American population become aware. Of course there is a number who will scoff at the ideas, but their minds will be open and they will surprise themselves by looking at events in a new light.

I am 75 years old. I worked until I was 73. I knew very little about what was happening in the world until I retired. I am one of those converts. I look at everything I see and hear. I weigh it, evaluate it, in terms of what does it mean to America and my fellow citizens.

misterbill said:

Capt Karl--- Labrador--

 But just how much real bravery is out there?  I too am concerned that in this age of instant gratification they will capitulate and fall down like dominoes to the threat.

Most of us will fold when they threaten our families. It has been the way of the enemy and dictators since the beginning of time. I can imagine how I could resist, for myself, but if they threatened my children or grandchildren, it would be all over.

This treaty with Canada regarding mutual support in the event of civil unrest SHOULD be the largest, boldest red flag put before Americans to see where  the country is going. Why, in the course of the history of the USA (and Canada too) would such a treaty be needed??? What is anticipated???

The people who sneer at those of us who believe in the efforts to create a North American Union will be mouth agape saying, "How did this happen?". Why would we need a mutual civil unrest support agreement unless "unrest" was expected? What would cause "unrest"?

Perhaps TV would go off and America would pull its head out of its butt and pay attention to what is happening. Do you realize how few of us there are who have an idea of what is happening?? I have friends who are convinced nothing bad will ever happen to America. Business is good , they are living comfortably, why worry? When I share some thoughts regarding NAU, or where the SPP could lead to the NAU. I hear, "Well those are good things that the government is trying to do.".

When the time comes that these "civil unrest" troops are standing and facing those who are "unrestful". the question arises, will they shoot, will they inflict violence, will they do as ordered if their Dads and Moms are in the groups they face. I was in the military. I know I would not. My love and respect for my parents and their knowledge would never let me do anything except stand with them.

This is America, We are strong, we are good, but the only way we will survive is if the majority of the population rises up and insisits on the sovereignty and Constitutional rights of America.

The problem I have here is that almost everyone who reads this is one of those who is aware. We need new converts. Somehow we need to reach out and let the wide American population become aware. Of course there is a number who will scoff at the ideas, but their minds will be open and they will surprise themselves by looking at events in a new light.

I am 75 years old. I worked until I was 73. I knew very little about what was happening in the world until I retired. I am one of those converts. I look at everything I see and hear. I weigh it, evaluate it, in terms of what does it mean to America and my fellow citizens.

 

Misterbill:

 

Our organization, We The People Congress, www.GiveMeLiberty.org, are working on this matter of educating the wide main stream American public at large. 

  

I thought of a good idea on how to do this quickly using sort of a judo move on the current economic news events that has been shattering early this week.   The leaders of the organization have agreed to implement a version of the plan and hopefully we can get the mainstream media dominos to fall, resulting in the mass education of the public with regards to these matters. 

 

Due to current events, I think the main stream media bubble withholding such information is currently vulnerable to penetration.  If that happens to one major news source, I think, the rest will have no recourse but to follow suit for ratings purposes and the resulting gain / loss of review streams.

 

As Paul Harvey says:  Stand by for News!

Everybody here could help spread the word by forwarding many of these posts and just doing the best you can to talk about them where ever you go.  I do, as best I can.

Also join and get others to join, We The People Congress at www.GiveMeLiberty.org

Or, how about getting more people to view these posts by telling them about them.  Try all of these things or a combo.

"I thought of a good idea on how to do this quickly using sort of a judo move on the current economic news events that has been shattering early this week.   The leaders of the organization have agreed to implement a version of the plan and hopefully we can get the mainstream media dominos to fall, resulting in the mass education of the public with regards to these matters. "

Capt Karl---I do hope you can succeed --we need it. The complacency and apathy of many Americans seems to be a major obstacle. If they see it in the mainstream, they should , at least , become somewhat aware odf wht is happening.

I am sorry to say, that I find resistance to wanting to know about what is going on. I feel confident that if you said "caliphate" in a room with 100 Americans in it, you may not find one person who knows what it means.

I will go to the site you posted and get up to speed.

Misterbill I agree wholeheartedly we need new converts. We can post, discuss and argue points day by day however this is to open ears with very few new ears and that is a MAJOR problem. 

Capt Karl, the purpose of posting Cheney comment was to reinforce need for CONGRESSIONAL backbone. Please understand that I refuse to stipulate to Republican or Democratic division when the sovereignty of America is at stake. Evil is evil regardless of political party. It should trouble us to hear Cheney does not care what the American people think regardless of the issue believe he would state same comment about any issue NAU or SPP included. It has an evil name, Exectutive priviledge.

Capt Karl, you have expertl knowledge defining problems and weaknesses. Out in the world this is what I hear, businessmen are dealing with delivery cost increases, teachers have a room full of children from many rising family troubles, lawyers see real estate market decline and increasing foreclosures, carpenters see housing market decline and cost rising. These people yes are part of the system but not our enemy "why"conversations explain the trouble they see. I walk daily in these conversations and see willingness to become unplugged even with physicians. However, churches I hear to often "separation of church and state." We cannot generate mass voice necessary unless we open that division. We need to have unpleasant solution discussions.

To our Revolutionary discussion, The letter I quoted earlier is published in The Potomac Route to the West by Cora Bacon Foster for The Columbia Historical Society. Nancy Simms is the writer she was responding to her husband Colonel Charles Simms. He became Lieutenant Colonel of the sixth Regiment of the Virginia Line and later of the Second Regiment distinguished himself at Red Bank and Forts Mifflin and Mercer. In 1776 he and John Harvie were elected to represent district of West Augusta in the convention at Williamsburg, in which was drafted Virginia's first state constitution that remained in effect for fifty years. In 1814 he is credited with saving Alexandria VA from the British torch. In Christ Church cemetary, Alexandria, is a memorial tablet inscribed: Sacred to the memory of Col Charles Simms, an officer in the army of Independence and for many years an honored citizen of Alexandria and mayor.

 

 

 

 

A rogue Government, certainly, but why?

 

The very first thing the Pilgrims did when they stepped on American soil was to bless this land in the name of God.  I personally honestly believe that is the reason we had the divine providence of incredible fortune where a bunch of farmers and common men won a full out war against the major Superpower to create the birth of FREEDOM (from Government).

 

I submit, therefore, that it is not the control of our government by religion, but rather the acknowledgement and the welcome spirit of God into our halls that was the blessed foundation of our freedom.

 

In thanks to him for all that is good in America and Jesus his son, who sacrificed so much for us I present to you:

 A Portion of George Washington's personal prayers:

“O Most Glorious God, in Jesus Christ, my merciful and loving Father; I acknowledge and confess my guilt in the weak and imperfect performance of the duties of this day. I have called on Thee for pardon and forgiveness of my sins, but so coldly and carelessly that my prayers are become my sin, and they stand in need of pardon.”
“ I have sinned against heaven and before Thee in thought, word, and deed. I have contemned Thy majesty and holy laws. I have likewise sinned by omitting what I ought to have done and committing what I ought not. I have rebelled against the light, despising Thy mercies and judgment, and broken my vows and promise. I have neglected the better things. My iniquities are multiplied and my sins are very great. I confess them, O Lord, with shame and sorrow, detestation and loathing and desire to be vile in my own eyes as I have rendered myself vile in Thine. I humbly beseech Thee to be merciful to me in the free pardon of my sins for the sake of Thy dear Son and only Savior Jesus Christ who came to call not the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Thou gavest Thy Son to die for me.”

"Make me to know what is acceptable in Thy sight, and therein to delight, open the eyes of my understanding, and help me thoroughly to examine myself concerning my knowledge, faith, and repentance, increase my faith, and direct me to the true object, Jesus Christ the Way, the Truth, and the Life, ..."
[from a 24 page authentic handwritten manuscript book dated April 21-23, 1752]

By 1778, George Washington had so often witnessed God's intervention that on August 20, he wrote Thomas Nelson that:

The Hand of providence has been so conspicuous in all this, that he must be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations. [1]

 Perhaps, if we, The American People have the fortitude, the guts, and the intellect to pray along with our greatest of leaders, George Washington, and "acknowledge our obligations" this Easter Sunday at our dinner tables, perhaps,,, just perhaps, our loving Lord will have the heart and the mercy to once again restore our liberty and deliver us from the hands of our enemies in Congress and the forces who control them and our daily lives, although we least deserve it. 

 

What have we done with his blessings? 

 

What did we not do that we should have to protect the gifts of freedom he bestowed to us? 

 

What have we done, asked for "free stuff" from Government, when we know that Government has to steal from our neighbors to give to us?

Perhaps we better do it (pray) on our knees.  We all have a lot of forgiveness to ask for.  What have we done?