People,

DO NOT BELIEVE that the Federal Reserve System is collapsing because of THE MORTGAGE CRISIS.  This is a LIE.  A  LIE!

It is because The Federal Reserve isn't getting enough taxes to support the lie we are living in.  They, the forty guys who own this private company, who have not been elected by us and are free to control and force us to do anything they want to force us to do, need more people to pay INCOME TAX.

There is really going to be a HUGE PRESS now to pass Amnesty and especially the NAU.  Don't let them do it!  Yes it would releave the finacial burden on us and make our live temporarily better, but at the total loss of freedom and the prosperity that we would otherwise have if we wouldn't be giving our earnings to The Matrix (The Federal Reserve).  The Federal Reserve is a PRIVATELY owned company of incredable wealth and power that they siphon right out of our paychecks in the form of "Withholding".  They have extended themselves, making us believe that all the stuff we see, hear, feel, smell and touch is real.  IT ISN'T.  It is what has been programmed in our minds.  Not that it is't there, just that we have given them the power to build and have all this stuff because they have made us believe all sorts of things that are not true.  For example our Dollars are not money, they are NOTEs.  A NOTE, as you are aware, is nothing more than the promise to pay with real money in the future.  In this case a future that never arrives.

Capt. Carl, Canada has the second largest reserves of crude oil in the World. THey are close in size to Saudi Arabia the number one. Essentially all their crude is sold to us and that is the lion's share of all we buy. Our second largest supplier is Mexico. The rest are trickles by comparison.

If we get our own then NAFTA would have to be changed or Canada would get badly hurt. Also for security reasons we have to keep some relationship with Canada.

Basically where I'm going is what I've repeated often, "Small Moves." Big moves mean big mistakes.

Since people are waking up to so many issues discussed here we may be able to start turning the ship around. We just need to keep cool heads and make the right moves. This means lots of us digging deep to figure out what we are really dealing with.

I hope we can have a good effect before Hillary wrecks everything.

Greg Badger said:

Capt. Carl, Canada has the second largest reserves of crude oil in the World. THey are close in size to Saudi Arabia the number one. Essentially all their crude is sold to us and that is the lion's share of all we buy. Our second largest supplier is Mexico. The rest are trickles by comparison.

If we get our own then NAFTA would have to be changed or Canada would get badly hurt. Also for security reasons we have to keep some relationship with Canada.

Basically where I'm going is what I've repeated often, "Small Moves." Big moves mean big mistakes.

Since people are waking up to so many issues discussed here we may be able to start turning the ship around. We just need to keep cool heads and make the right moves. This means lots of us digging deep to figure out what we are really dealing with.

I hope we can have a good effect before Hillary wrecks everything.

Sensible and reasonable, Greg. 

We need people like you to cool things down in fast moving times. 

However, there are moves that people really should do today to protect themselves. I believe people should think about buying e-Gold or some other e-metal of your choice.  And do it now BEFORE all the banks close by the order of The U.S. Government who will be under orders by the people who control all money that is borrowed to the U.S. Government, the owners of The Federal Reserve. 

All the money that we all sent or will be sending in for Income Taxes goes directly into the pockets of the Owners of The Federal Reserve and it is used for their own purposes, not ours.  The only reason they borrow our Income Tax money to The U.S. Government is because it “was” a good risk.  The operative word there is “WAS”! 

The Federal Reserve just may collapse.  This is a VERY GOOD THING!!! 

But we are greatly addicted to it, so it is going to hurt.  Some of us are going to starve.  It is going to be bad.  But in the end, if we hold our ground, we will get government to comport to The Constitution, to the word, spirit and intent and then we will have our freedom, The Federal Reserve will be closed up, we will be using Gold coinage and this sort of thing will not happen again because the money, gold, will be worth what it is worth.  No possibility of the freedom killing, enslaving, money stealing world of The Matrix; a false world that only exists because they make us think, in our minds, that it does.

Capt. Carl, this is a delicate balancing act. We do not have much time to act. If we panic and do something stupid we are doomed. If we wait for Hillary we are doomed.

The people in the company of sorry Soros want doom and gloom so they can walk in and take over by capitalizing on peoples' ignorance. They have been dumbing down students for a long time.

I'm torn between "getting out the word" and getting my startup business off the ground.

By the way, getting off subject, (hope this doesn't get whacked) since you mentioned MATRIX I put a blue and red candy in a box like in the movie. I ask people to "get out of the MATRIX" by committing their lives to Jesus Christ (I think this is the red pill) or they can take blue and stay in a stupor.

Just how unreliable the news is consider this story about one of my suppliers D&H...

I hope we can have a good effect before Hillary wrecks everything.

I am running out of words to keep saying the same thing!  It is NOT about Hillary, it is NOT about Soros, it is NOT about all the nasty dems!  Look at the treachery being done to us at this moment by government and ask yourself WHO IS DOING IT?  and just MAYBE YOU'LL GET A CLUE!  If those on FS can't see what is truly happening, then I will have to concede there is no hope, NONE AT ALL for the average citizen who goes about his business without an inkling of the big picture and what is happening in the world, even in this country!

 VEyes posted an excellent article this morning - about the timing of Spitzer's downfall and the $200 billion bailout of predator banks.  I was not aware of his involvement in trying to expose some of the fraudulent actions of the financial lords, and, of course, NO ONE IS INNOCENT, and whether you believe this is the reason for his fall or not, read the entire article and maybe your eyes will register some of the truth to your brain!

WE HAVE TO DEMAND and FORCE Government to do absolutely NOTHING more than what is allowed under THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 

I couldn't agree with you more, Capt; however, those in power have not followed the Constitution for the past several decades.  And we are responsible for this.  How are we going to get them, who are absolutely intent on its destruction, to suddenly abide by the rules of NOT OUR DEMOCRACY, BUT OUR CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC?

WE HAVE TO DEMAND and FORCE Government to do absolutely NOTHING more than what is allowed under THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 

Yes, now how do we do this with sanity?

Labrador said:

I hope we can have a good effect before Hillary wrecks everything.

I am running out of words to keep saying the same thing!  It is NOT about Hillary, it is NOT about Soros, it is NOT about all the nasty dems!  Look at the treachery being done to us at this moment by government and ask yourself WHO IS DOING IT?  and just MAYBE YOU'LL GET A CLUE!  If those on FS can't see what is truly happening, then I will have to concede there is no hope, NONE AT ALL for the average citizen who goes about his business without an inkling of the big picture and what is happening in the world, even in this country!

 VEyes posted an excellent article this morning - about the timing of Spitzer's downfall and the $200 billion bailout of predator banks.  I was not aware of his involvement in trying to expose some of the fraudulent actions of the financial lords, and, of course, NO ONE IS INNOCENT, and whether you believe this is the reason for his fall or not, read the entire article and maybe your eyes will register some of the truth to your brain!

 

WE HAVE TO DEMAND and FORCE Government to do absolutely NOTHING more than what is allowed under THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 

I couldn't agree with you more, Capt; however, those in power have not followed the Constitution for the past several decades.  And we are responsible for this.  How are we going to get them, who are absolutely intent on its destruction, to suddenly abide by the rules of NOT OUR DEMOCRACY, BUT OUR CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC?

Greg Badger said

WE HAVE TO DEMAND and FORCE Government to do absolutely NOTHING more than what is allowed under THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 

Yes, now how do we do this with sanity?

Algebra said:

Capt. Karl, I am hoping against hope that you are right. I also agree theat this is about them offering the N.A.U. as a solution. I personally believe this is a contrived plan to bring Americans into a fear situation, of a totall economic collapse. If nessary they will allow it to happen to achieve their Global Government Goals. These folks believe in the global picture, they have no respect for Nation States or our constitution.

 

Okay Gentlemen:

We need to do this as PEACEFULLY as possible!  There are two ways to do this:

1.)  Rely on The Supreme Court to challenge the U.S. Government hoping that they will strictly interpet the Constitution. 

2.)  Get so many of our fellow countrymen to LEARN and understand these things that we, on the side of Freedom and the resulting prosperity (for the greatest number of people, some of course will be unlucky and it won't work for them because their risks will go south), have so many in our ranks it results in the grass roots power we need to turn Government back to The Constitution.

3.)  If those don't work all we have to do is make sure that Amnesty and the NAU isn't passed or some other "Global initiative" and Social Security and Medicare will force us into a combo Civil and Revolutionary War, because we won't have the money or even a job to have a deceit living.  That is a GOOD THING!  Without that I am afraid the American Public might just accept Socialism through Globalism and a lot of fancy talk.  So BOTTOM LINE:  Don't let the basta*ds pass Amnesty or the NAU and, the way I see it, Freedom will be refreshed by it's natural manure.  The blood of tyrants and patriots.

So for the time being it is our job to get people educated.  Use organizations like www.GiveMeLiberty.org.

I have Bob Schulz coming to a town near us to speak.  Invite him to your town too.

Capt Karl said:  Okay Gentlemen:

We need to do this as PEACEFULLY as possible!  There are two ways to do this:

1.)  Rely on The Supreme Court to challenge the U.S. Government hoping that they will strictly interpet the Constitution. 

2.)  Get so many of our fellow countrymen to LEARN and understand these things that we, on the side of Freedom and the resulting prosperity (for the greatest number of people, some of course will be unlucky and it won't work for them because their risks will go south), have so many in our ranks it results in the grass roots power we need to turn Government back to The Constitution.

3.)  If those don't work all we have to do is make sure that Amnesty and the NAU isn't passed or some other "Global initiative" and Social Security and Medicare will force us into a combo Civil and Revolutionary War, because we won't have the money or even a job to have a deceit living.  That is a GOOD THING!  Without that I am afraid the American Public might just accept Socialism through Globalism and a lot of fancy talk.  So BOTTOM LINE:  Don't let the basta*ds pass Amnesty or the NAU and, the way I see it, Freedom will be refreshed by it's natural manure.  The blood of tyrants and patriots.

So for the time being it is our job to get people educated.  Use organizations like www.GiveMeLiberty.org.

I have Bob Schulz coming to a town near us to speak.  Invite him to your town too

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#1 won't work, Capt.  Our Judicial system is firmly under the hand of the executive branch, now.  No checks or balances left!

Labrador said:

Capt Karl said:  Okay Gentlemen:

We need to do this as PEACEFULLY as possible!  There are two ways to do this:

1.)  Rely on The Supreme Court to challenge the U.S. Government hoping that they will strictly interpet the Constitution. 

2.)  Get so many of our fellow countrymen to LEARN and understand these things that we, on the side of Freedom and the resulting prosperity (for the greatest number of people, some of course will be unlucky and it won't work for them because their risks will go south), have so many in our ranks it results in the grass roots power we need to turn Government back to The Constitution.

3.)  If those don't work all we have to do is make sure that Amnesty and the NAU isn't passed or some other "Global initiative" and Social Security and Medicare will force us into a combo Civil and Revolutionary War, because we won't have the money or even a job to have a deceit living.  That is a GOOD THING!  Without that I am afraid the American Public might just accept Socialism through Globalism and a lot of fancy talk.  So BOTTOM LINE:  Don't let the basta*ds pass Amnesty or the NAU and, the way I see it, Freedom will be refreshed by it's natural manure.  The blood of tyrants and patriots.

So for the time being it is our job to get people educated.  Use organizations like www.GiveMeLiberty.org.

I have Bob Schulz coming to a town near us to speak.  Invite him to your town too

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#1 won't work, Capt.  Our Judicial system is firmly under the hand of the executive branch, now.  No checks or balances left!

 

We, see www.GiveMeLiberty.org - We The People Congress, have attempted to take the U.S. Government to The Supreme Court twice and they denied our case.   We wanted The Supreme Court to interpet the meaning of the First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

The lower courts said that The People could present a petition but Government is under no obligation to address it.  Then why did our Founding Fathers even bother to write it in?  We have massive and highly impressive arguments to prove our case; which is why The Supreme Court refused to hear it.  The effect would have been that Government would have been forced to behave and there by shrink by at least 75%.  THE FEDERAL RESERVE doesn't want their patsies to lose their power. 

We believe that The Founding Fathers didn't write that in the Constitution for our health.  There are many instances in history were this was used shortly after the Revolutionary War.  Then the Government did address petititions for the redress of grrievances.  This was placed in The Constitution to avoid the need for spilled blood.  It is the best way to address constitutional issues and for the public to hold Government, all Three Branches, accountable to our founding documents.

You may be right about the Judiciary Branch.  It is very upsetting.

THE GIPPER

“Well, Seamus Wright, I’ll keep this brief. On St. Patrick’s Day, you should spend time with saints and scholars, so of course, you know, I have two more stops I have to make. I turned back to the ancient days of Ireland to find a suitable toast, and I think I have found it. St. Patrick was a gentleman who through strategy and stealth drove all the snakes from Ireland. Here’s toasting to his health—but not too many toastings lest you lose yourself and then forget the good St. Patrick and see all those snakes again. I believe that, you know, let those who love us, love us, and those who don’t love us, let God turn their hearts. And if He won’t turn their hearts, let Him turn their ankles so we’ll know them by their limp. May you have warm words on a cold evening and a full moon on a dark night and a smooth road all the way to your door.” —Ronald Reagan (17 March 1988) joshing then-House Speaker Jim Wright

INSIGHT

“The most unresolved problem of the day is precisely the problem that concerned the founders of this nation: how to limit the scope and power of government. Tyranny, restrictions on human freedom, come primarily from governmental restrictions that we ourselves have set up.” —Milton Friedman

http://www.libertydollar.org

http://mdcyguy.blogspot.com/2007/09/national-preparedness-month-family.html

Capt. Karl, I thought we were on the same page untill you started quoting Milton Friedman. Global Free Traders caused the problem; you really don't believe one has the solution. The message I always got from Mr. Friedman was: get the government out of the way so we can make more money.

marijam, You are right Mr. Bush had four years of a Republican controlled congress and four years of the Democrats with a slight majority. What did he do: pass more Free Trade Agreements. Give tax incentives to those outsourcing american manufacturing. Doubling the national debt, and creating the largest trade deficit in history.

Milton Friedman, Warren Buffet, Robert Zoellick, Susan Schwab, were all right there at his side cheering him on. These folks don't need more money the American People are the ones hurting. Please don't mistake these types for Freedom Lovers, if they were they would not be a part of exploiting the Chinese Peasants, so they can fatten their bank accounts on the backs of the third world poor, and export the poverty to the American People. 

marijam said: Where are the comments and articles castigating Bush for this meltdown?  If this were to be happening on a Democrats watch, oh boy, watch out!

Here 'ya go, marijam.....posting this one just for you, and yes, we all know what Spitzer did, but I, for one, was unaware of his role in exposing fraudulent financial practices.  I loathed him for trying to gain driver's licenses for illegals, but nonetheless, let's give credit where credit is due.

marijam,Bugbaggers,and Labrador: Please watch this video. Listen closely to Don Harrold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sZCNlPwG8o