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March 14, 2008 03:16 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Obama Disagrees With Pastor's 'God Damn America' Sermon

Obama on His Pastor: 'I Profoundly Disagree With Some of These Statements'

By BRIAN ROSS and REHAB EL-BURI

March 14, 2008—

 

 

Sen. Barack Obama says he "obviously disagrees" with his pastor of 20 years who said black Americans should sing "God Damn America" instead of "God Bless America."

Reacting to an ABC News story about the sermons of Rev. Jeremiah Wright of the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, Obama told the Pittsburg Tribune-Review, "I haven't seen the line. This is a pastor who is on the brink of retirement who in the past has made some controversial statements. I profoundly disagree with some of these statements."

But he defended Rev. Wright's overall record, accusing ABC News of "cherry picking" statements of the man with a 40-year career.

"There are times when people say things that are just wrong. But I think it's important to judge me on what I've said in the past and what I believe," he told the paper.

Rev. Wright remains part of the Obama campaign, as a member of the candidate's religious advisory board.

As reported previouly on ABC News, Rev. Wright has a long history of what even Obama's campaign aides concede is "inflammatory rhetoric," including the assertion that the United States brought on the 9/11 attacks with its own "terrorism."

An ABC News review of dozens of Rev. Wright's sermons, offered for sale by the church, found repeated denunciations of the U.S. based on what he described as his reading of the Gospels and the treatment of black Americans.

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda's attacks because of its own terrorism.

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

"We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost," he told his congregation.

Sen. Obama told the New York Times he was not at the church on the day of Rev. Wright's 9/11 sermon. "The violence of 9/11 was inexcusable and without justification," Obama said in a recent interview. "It sounds like he was trying to be provocative," Obama told the paper.

Rev. Wright, who announced his retirement last month, has built a large and loyal following at his church with his mesmerizing sermons, mixing traditional spiritual content and his views on contemporary issues and is considered one of the country's 10 most influential black pastors, according to members of the Obama campaign.

In a statement to ABCNews.com yesterday, Obama's press spokesman Bill Burton said, "Sen. Obama has said repeatedly that personal attacks such as this have no place in this campaign or our politics, whether they're offered from a platform at a rally or the pulpit of a church. Sen. Obama does not think of the pastor of his church in political terms. Like a member of his family, there are things he says with which Sen. Obama deeply disagrees. But now that he is retired, that doesn't detract from Sen. Obama's affection for Rev. Wright or his appreciation for the good works he has done."

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March 14, 2008 03:16 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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what do you think about this pastor?
March 14, 2008 03:23 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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He hasn't seen the line???  Has he been living in a cave the last few days?  It's all over TV, radio and the internet.  And he only disagrees with "some" of the statements?  Which ones does he AGREE with??




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March 14, 2008 03:35 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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20 years of attendance--more than likely 10s of thousands of dollars in contributions--and when did Bo start speaking out against what the Rev. Wrong preached--"repeated denunciations of the US"?  He sat there in the congregation--probably had many private conversations as would any powerful man who was close with his pastor for this long.  Why wouldn't he believe in what the Rev. Wrong and that church espouses?  Do the math. 


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March 14, 2008 03:41 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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That's right Alamo.  When you hang out around dogs for 20 something years, sooner or later, you're going to pick up a few fleas!


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March 14, 2008 03:47 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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And what about the lovely and gracious Mrs. Obama?  Judging by some of her recent remarks, it sounds like she pretty much agrees with the good Rev. Wright.


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March 14, 2008 04:01 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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FireWing said: And what about the lovely and gracious Mrs. Obama?  Judging by some of her recent remarks, it sounds like she pretty much agrees with the good Rev. Wright.

That's what needs to be hammered home also FW--good point.  I'm waiting for her to stick her foot in her mouth--again. Foot in mouth




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March 14, 2008 04:10 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Over and over and over it needs to be hammered home.  I was just listening to Howie Carr suggest people go to the New Yorker website, print out the article on Michelle Obama and take a few minutes and put your feet up over the weekend and read about her hatred for this country, whether she uses those exact words or not.  She's definitely OD'd on the "good" reverend's venom.Profiles: The Other Obama: Reporting & Essays: The New Yorker


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March 14, 2008 04:12 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Hey, y'all...this whole Obama phenomonon is perplexing to me...the guy has no international business, government or political-military affairs background or skills. His experience in the Big Leagues of American governance is limited to two years in the Senate, most of which appears to have been spent getting ready to run and running for President. While I agree that he isn't the same person with all the same beliefs as his minister, he does say that the (now retired) Rev. White has been his mentor and adviser. Obama's political background is Chicago politics -- which is all about race and class. Does he bring that baggage to the national scene with him?

Firewing's point about Mrs. Obama is cogent and relevant.

Change? That's the Obama mantra...but change from what to what? From our constitutional republic to a People's Republic? From our form of managed capitalism to some form of socialism? From a consumer-driven economy to a command economy?

Frankly, I just don't get the Obama-rama madness...

Of course, the Wicked Witch of the Left isn't much better...for all we've seen of her since 1990 we actually know very little about her...about what she really believes (if anything). But what we do know is really spooky...power to her first and foremost, then up-power the government she intends to lead. Buy votes from people who need adult supervision just to leave the house by promising to give them the fruits of other people's labor.

I've spent my adult life serving this country and my country has rewarded me pretty well for all those years of service in some pretty rotten plces. Virtually every day of my three-plus decades with the Army was shared by men and women of color...we lived in the same rough conditions, shared everything -- the good, the bad, the funny and the tragic together...and not one of those brave Americans ever even remotely indicated that for them America was something less than worth dying for, if necessary. So, when I hear a man, a man allegedly of God, spewing race-based hate I am perplexed...how is his America different than the America my soldier brothers and I were willing to fight and die for?

Sen. Obama seems reluctant to separate himself from this hater...what does that say about Sen. Obama? Mein Gott, has the country fallen through the looking glass? Is up, down? Is hate and hatefulness now good?

We act as if race were the beginning and ending of America. The PC crowd has managed to create an environment in which any criticism of any Black person or Black-oriented institution is somehow racist. That's not the America most of us live in...race seems to be an issue for the political class while the rest of us generally get along pretty well.

No, folks, I just don't get this Barack Obama phenomonon at all. 




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March 14, 2008 04:14 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Why hasn't Rev. Wright been forced to resign his position with Obama's campaign?  Ferraro made a comment a few days ago indicating that if Obama weren't black, he'd never have made it so far.  Right or wrong, she had to resign from Hillary's campaign where she was an advisor.  Certainly the things this so-called reverend are just as inflammatory.


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March 14, 2008 04:16 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Patsy said: Over and over and over it needs to be hammered home.  I was just listening to Howie Carr suggest people go to the New Yorker website, print out the article on Michelle Obama and take a few minutes and put your feet up over the weekend and read about her hatred for this country, whether she uses those exact words or not.  She's definitely OD'd on the "good" reverend's venom.Profiles: The Other Obama: Reporting & Essays: The New Yorker

Thanks for posting this article, Patsy.  I've bookmarked it to read this weekend. 




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March 14, 2008 04:20 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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How in the world would it look like (if) big word. John McCain would have had David Dukes for a twenty year friendship the Dumoc{rats} would be wanting, his head. Only backs can bad mouth whites. But don't we bad mouth backs then we are racist. I can not fathom that real American's would vote for someone that will not put his hand over his heart. And as for the Pastor. Go to the country of your choice if you hate us so much.    


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Simple, concernedmom, because it wouldn't be PC to call a black man out and explain such hatred....to do so would be considered hatred in and of itself.  We must understand the frustration and black rage, and blah blah blah blah blah.

JColes, the ONLY thing I can say good about Obama is he is a far better public speaker than Clinton.  He is a dynamic talker and presents a far more palatable image than Shrillary.  However, the WORDS he says are no more inspiring than hers, make no more sense than hers, and his ideas are no more workable than hers.  Neither one of them is qualified or experienced enough for the POTUS job, other than meeting the minimal requirements of being 35 or older and natural US citizens.  Beyond that, they are empty suits/pantsuits.  No substance to either of them.  But I will say I am taking great delight watching them destroy each other.  Just read this article, and I have to agree with it.  Not that I'm gung ho for McCain either, but these two dolts are just handing him the job.  It's his to lose now.  Why McCain Might Win | Newsweek Voices - Michael Hirsh | Newsweek.com




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March 14, 2008 04:37 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Patsy said:

Simple, concernedmom, because it wouldn't be PC to call a black man out and explain such hatred....to do so would be considered hatred in and of itself.  We must understand the frustration and black rage, and blah blah blah blah blah.

JColes, the ONLY thing I can say good about Obama is he is a far better public speaker than Clinton.  He is a dynamic talker and presents a far more palatable image than Shrillary.  However, the WORDS he says are no more inspiring than hers, make no more sense than hers, and his ideas are no more workable than hers.  Neither one of them is qualified or experienced enough for the POTUS job, other than meeting the minimal requirements of being 35 or older and natural US citizens.  Beyond that, they are empty suits/pantsuits.  No substance to either of them.  But I will say I am taking great delight watching them destroy each other.  Just read this article, and I have to agree with it.  Not that I'm gung ho for McCain either, but these two dolts are just handing him the job.  It's his to lose now.  Why McCain Might Win | Newsweek Voices - Michael Hirsh | Newsweek.com

Oh, yes!  The only one with bigger grin on their face than Hillary, is McCain.  If things continue along these lines,  it'll be President McCain for sure.




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March 14, 2008 04:51 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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How in the world would it look like (if) big word. John McCain would have had David Dukes for a twenty year friendship the Dumoc{rats} would be wanting, his head. Only backs can bad mouth whites. But don't we bad mouth backs then we are racist. I can not fathom that real American's would vote for someone that will not put his hand over his heart. And as for the Pastor. Go to the country of your choice if you hate us so much.    

Good question, Pastor.  You know the MSM would have a field day with that, dragging up pictures of Duke in his Grand Dragon garb, pictures of them having a beer together or playing golf together, or a shot of them with the stars and bars in the background, etc.  I thought the same thing....if you hate America so much, if America has done such evil things that even 100 or more years later you still want to use it as an excuse for failure, why stay??  I'd never stay in a country that was so evil and one that I hated so much.  You noticed some years ago some guy (danged if I remember who it was now) offered free passage back to Africa for anyone who was so miserable here.  He got NO takers.  What a surprise.




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Patsy & FireWing...I believe it was Tom Metzger, founder of the White Aryan Nation, who came up with the free passage to Africa idea...and you're right, there were no takers.

I actually understand the politics of Obama and Hillary...and Ms. Patsy, you're dead-on right that both are hollow...nothing in their so-called platforms add-up. Sen. Obama apparently is pretty bright guy but I think that he, like most on the far left, has a reality problem...Hillary clearly is in touch only with her own ego...those things I understand...and I understand the 'gimme' folks...what I don't understand is how anyone who has worked to get ahead could support either of these loons.

Example: my second daughter and her husband are both physicians...he a care-giver docter, she a research physician...lots of time & money has been invested by two sets of parents and the two young people in their education and in getting them started in their professions...both are about 30, they have one child (a real cutey, too!) and both are destined to rise high in their professions...and both are rabid Obama supporters. Go figure. 

The fella who runs the hardware store in the town where I shop is also an Obama fan...even though he admits his taxes will go up and keeping his business will be harder. Go figure.

The kids and this businessman use all sorts of semantic gymnastics to separate Obama from the wack-job minister...that I don't get...what's obvious to me is completely lost on them. I wonder, and this is a wildly non-PC musing, could it be that the most liberal among us are for Obama (at least partly) as a way to prove to themselves that they really are good liberals -- color blind, social class blind, and ready for 'a perfect America'?

Whatever it is that's going on is pretty dysfunctional when so many people are ready to completely ignore some of the nastiest racial hatred I've heard in decades just so they can continue to idealize and adore a guy who, as Patsy so aptly noted, has no special skills other than a talent for oratory and who meets the minimum qualifications to run for President. 




jColes But though my wing is closely bound, my heart's at liberty. My prison walls cannot control, the flight, the freedom of my soul. Jeanne Guyon, 1648-1717 "A Prisoner's Song" Castle of Vincennes, France
March 14, 2008 05:56 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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You may be right on the Tom Metger offering the free passage.  Whoever it was, though, my point was despite all the bitching and bellyaching about how awful things are in this country and how bad it is and how evil her citizens are, when offered a chance to leave it behind, no one budged.  Very telling....it's easier to sit and cry and whine and play the role of victim, which also is strongly encouraged and condoned by the liberals.

 I'm not surprised about your daughter and her hubby either.  My sister is a dyed in the wool liberal, but she is for Clinton and claims if Clinton doesn't get the nomination, she's just not going to vote because for some reason she can't stand Obama, and she'd sooner slit her throat than vote for a republican.  Her daughter, on the other hand, (oh, duh...a liberal journalism school grad!) has always been a little "confused" as to her color and background (even though she angrily denounces her Native American heritage on her father's side), is gung ho for Obama.  Funny thing is, neither one of them can name a single accomplishment of either Obama or Clinton.  Neither can name anything specific that gives them the experience to run a country.  And neither of them can answer how they will pay for any of their grand and glorious plans.

 I think you're right too about some liberals are just for Obama so they can pat themselves on the back and say, "see how color blind I am....I'm for Obama.....he can lead us to the Promise Land."  Suuuuuuuuuuuure he can!!




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The liberals will be the first to holler when we are nuke. They hate American's that stand for the American way.


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Yeah, well, I'd rather have my eyes pecked out by a crazed Detroit pigeon than vote for a Democrat, so I understand (strongly disagree with it, though) your sister's passion. Yep, the whole Leftocrat political-economic scheme is cockamamie...none of it adds-up, but I know how they'll pay for their crazy plan: they'll take your money, Patsy; your money Pastor Cantalupo and they'll try to take my money, too...and the money from every one of us who've ever built anything of value for ourselves.

Now then, I'm a McCain man but I understand who he is -- basically conservative but willing to accommodate the lefties on some social programs. But if he's President, at least we on the Right will have some input and some effect on how far he goes...so not much will be lost, I think, if we actively back him...If one of the loons on the Left becomes President and the Congress stays heavily stupid...er, uh, excuse me, I meant Democrat, we're screwed...all of us...not just the Right.

My idea is to promote McCain as much we can...do everything we can to get him elected...support our state Republican parties and try to send as many conservatives as we can to Congress -- knowing that the Dems are likely to retain both houses...now here's the beauty of it -- with McCain in the White House and enough Republicans in both of the houses we can promote political stalemate...we can slow down the crazies in their rush to further socialize our country.

All we have to do is beat expectations and we don't lose.

Whatcha all think? 




jColes But though my wing is closely bound, my heart's at liberty. My prison walls cannot control, the flight, the freedom of my soul. Jeanne Guyon, 1648-1717 "A Prisoner's Song" Castle of Vincennes, France
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I don't think you have to bother doing anything, JColes.....the democrats may just self destruct, all on their own.  And yes, I know where Shrillary will get the money.  As she said:

"We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that (the tax cut) short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."




"A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders." Larry Elder

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