Politicians and their Religion

I just read a post on one of the threads discussing the importance of our leaders faith.  I wonder how all of you feel about this:

Does it matter if a Politician is a Muslim, Buddist, Hindu, Christian, Jew?

 

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For me and I think for most on here ,it is important for our leaders to be christian because we are conservative.If it is important to us then naturaly we would want our leaders to be the same.Protestant christians I believe the dominant faith when the settlers first came and when this new country America was formed .

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Aside from most Christians, there is an exclusivity amongst other faiths that shows no tolerance to other faiths. Our country's motto, through the actions of our forefathers, stated "In God We Trust". While this idea is being subjugated day by day to salve the consciences of the dishonest and untrustworthy in the name of religious freedom, we all know this is not so. Without the guidelines ofour Christian tenets, we are slipping into the abyss of a new country motto, "All for Me and None for You". Greed and dishonesty has become the religion of our "representatives and leaders". The fact that they claim to belong to  a certain denomination means nothing. It is lip service to our God-fearing population until such time as they can erase His name from all our lives.

So, the answer to your question, Elaina, is - it really doesn't matter. Their politics is the religion of Greed, which the majority practice. One of the teachings of their religion is their Political Corruptness. And with this teaching comes the bending over backwards to everyone but the legal Christian American citizen.

Does it matter if a Politician is a Muslim, Buddist, Hindu, Christian, Jew?   

I think there are good people of every faith and I'm sure there are conservatives in each faith also.  There are crooks in every faith, that's for sure.  So, no, it doesn't matter to me.....only if they are good people and their positions on the issues are similar to mine.

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Some interesting thoughts on this matter.

I wonder why we tolerate other faiths in this County?  What did our founding Fathers have in mind?  Did they say: freedom of Religion, or freedom of Religions?

To sum up your comments so far ( in this thread and several others) it seems that we are so diappointed by our Politicians that  faith doesn't matter anymore.  So it seems that the atheists, the Muslims, the ones without a firm foundation slowly brainwashed us into the PC tolerance of this day? 

Should a leader not obey in God first?  Would not everything  else fall into place?

How can we deny our God, because it "doesn't matter"? Should he not be the One and Only God to guide us?

When will we stand up for what is right, instead of tolerating, and taking it laying down?

When do we put our faith where our mouth is, show the backbone our Lord has given us?  When do we get up and fight the good fight?

Or do we let others fight their fight, protect their God, until we are all consumed by it in the name or PC?

 

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I agree with you Elaina!

Unfortunately, our present "leaders" have  changed the founding fathers directive on religion to "Freedom FROM religion". In this way, they feel that they can do no wrong - anything goes - lying, cheating, stealing, immorality, reshaping the world to their own concept and greediness. They do not have to answer to anyone - their constituents or God.

No where in the Constitution does it say that the government is the supreme power and final voice. We are being trained to refer to "the government" and have forgotten that WE are the government. Its time to regroup and go back to the original intent of our forefathers and our God. We do not need thousands of laws on the books. We only need the TEN that cover all situations. Most of all, we need #1 - "I Am The Lord Thy God; Thou Shalt Have No Other Gods Before Me!" This greedy, uncaring god of theirs has to go!

elaina said:

Some interesting thoughts on this matter.

I wonder why we tolerate other faiths in this County?  What did our founding Fathers have in mind?  Did they say: freedom of Religion, or freedom of Religions?

To sum up your comments so far ( in this thread and several others) it seems that we are so diappointed by our Politicians that  faith doesn't matter anymore.  So it seems that the atheists, the Muslims, the ones without a firm foundation slowly brainwashed us into the PC tolerance of this day? 

Should a leader not obey in God first?  Would not everything  else fall into place?

How can we deny our God, because it "doesn't matter"? Should he not be the One and Only God to guide us?

When will we stand up for what is right, instead of tolerating, and taking it laying down?

When do we put our faith where our mouth is, show the backbone our Lord has given us?  When do we get up and fight the good fight?

Or do we let others fight their fight, protect their God, until we are all consumed by it in the name or PC?

 

 

That is a good question elania,What did our founding fathers have in mind about freedom of religion.I would say there was possibly not one muslim around when they formed this country or many  other different faiths.They, I don't think knew America was going to turn out like this.

 Maybe they had in mind more for protestant christians that had always been persecuted in europe by the catholic church. Our Faith also dosen't guarantee that our president is always going to do the right thing.Look at bush,(he has our faith)If he had it his way he would have given the illegals amnesty.

Some on here might disagree with me on this one.One of the reasons I would not have voted for Romney among other things is his support for mormonism.It's not the mormon people for I love,It is mormonism that has a controlled grip on them.

 

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CR, I agree, but want to remind you that we should not let our disappointment in President Bush lead us away from the fact that we need good, faithful leaders now more than ever.

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That is true elaina,but what we need and what is there are two different things, there is few if any politicians out there that have put God really first in their life,and I am talking Biblical christianity now,not impostors

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Personally, I don't give a rat's behind if the politician bites the heads off chickens in a graveyard at midnight and howls at the full moon.  I just want him to do what is right for this country...this state, this town, whatever.  Yes, we were founded on judeo-christian principles, but to think that merely by being a christian makes a politician a good person or conservative or fit for the job or caring or patriotic or honest or moral or smart or anything else is just downright stupid.  I definitely do NOT want anyone who's going to quote Mohammed as a justification for violence, but neither do I want a holier than thou bible thumper in office either.

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Patsy said:

Personally, I don't give a rat's behind if the politician bites the heads off chickens in a graveyard at midnight and howls at the full moon.  I just want him to do what is right for this country...this state, this town, whatever.  Yes, we were founded on judeo-christian principles, but to think that merely by being a christian makes a politician a good person or conservative or fit for the job or caring or patriotic or honest or moral or smart or anything else is just downright stupid.  I definitely do NOT want anyone who's going to quote Mohammed as a justification for violence, but neither do I want a holier than thou bible thumper in office either.

 

Good points Patsy,on merly by being a christian dosen't mean you are going to do a better job are be more conservative,bush proves that but I think christians tend to be more conservative. Let me ask you this ,two candidates are equel to you on the issues.One is an atheist and the other is christian and puts God first in his or her persoal life,Which one would it be, patsy?

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Patsy, we get what we deserve. Bad people inevitably get bad leaders.

At the founding of our country morality was pretty high and I think we were greatly blessed.

We had men who knew Scripture and did not "thump" others.

As time went on we drifted.

Now we are reaping what we've sown collectively.

I'm not Mormon, however, I supported Mitt. The fact that he did not win, or someone of his moral caliber, troubles me greatly. I take it as a warning sign we are headed down a slippery slope and we better put the brakes on fast.

It is so easy to blame others for our own mistakes. Especially our leaders. Then as the discussion turns to "finding the right leader to change things" religion enters. "The right leader" cannot change anything if the people are corrupt. Religion is not the answer. Changing ourselves will put things back on track to get the right leader and be blessed just like at the beginning.

Good points Patsy,on merly by being a christian dosen't mean you are going to do a better job are be more conservative,bush proves that but I think christians tend to be more conservative. Let me ask you this ,two candidates are equel to you on the issues.One is an atheist and the other is christian and puts God first in his or her persoal life,Which one would it be, patsy?

All being the same, CR, it doesn't matter in the least to me.   If they both are equal on the issues, then I can just eenie-meenie-miney-moe in the voter booth. 

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That's true, Greg.  I ended up voting for Mitt as well, and his religion had nothing to do with my decision.  He's a good and decent man who had some awesome ideas on how to get this country back on the right track and I think he's have made an excellent president.  His being mormon or catholic or protestant or baptist or wiccan had jack diddley squat to do with it.

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O.k Patsy,when you said I just just want a politician to do right for this country.Do you think at all a country of God is anywhere in that mix? 

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CR, the country is it's people, not it's leaders.  A country can be a country of God without having a "christian" leader.  You are also equating God with christian as if they are the only believers in God.

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Patsy said: CR, the country is it's people, not it's leaders.  A country can be a country of God without having a "christian" leader.  You are also equating God with christian as if they are the only believers in God.

 

Patsy,I am only going by the majority of the people in America,so therefore the God of christianty.Notice the word majority.And you said it, America is it's people ,not it's leaders.

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So, what exactly is your point, CR?  You want congress etc. to be mini-vaticans or something?  Not me.  The first time someone claims "Christian" as a credential, I get nervous.  I don't want the likes of Jerry Falwell, or Jim Bakker, or Wildmon, etc. running my country or state or town.

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Also I say onto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God.

 

Our way to the Lord goes through Christ Jesus.  Patsy, God send his Son to  us to make us Christian.  God the Father made it so.  One does not work without the other.  Yes, you can run a Country without God, without being a Christian, but you cannot come to God without Christ.  The Bible tell us so.

We are trying to run this Country without God for too long, having faith in our own ability.  Look where it got us?  Christ teaches us to love one another, but he said a lot more than that, didn't he?

My Prayer is that we open our hearts to his wisdom, so we will see that a Country is one Nation under God.

This is my firm believe.

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No patsy they are a bunch of loons.I thought I made my point.but it's cool I still love you anyway .We just don't see this topic the same.

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