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February 29, 2008 01:54 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I like my Dad will not lay down my arms

Posted by The Voice on Feb 27th, 2008
2008
Feb 27

I like my Dad will not lay down my arms
Carolyn Hileman

He sat in his foxhole and his thoughts turned to home, would Mom be frying chicken, had JC been taking care of his car and horse like he promised?

He thought of those carefree days with his buddies hanging out at the coffee shop on Spit and Whittle, ah those were the days, no real responsibilities, just school, the farm and the guys but those days are over now he thinks as a loud noise shakes him back to reality, ah the stories he would tell when he got back home.

Sometimes at home in his later years he would think back to those days in the foxholes, he would pull out the pictures, name the ones still living and the ones he said were the real heroes the ones who never came home.

He would always have to tell us why he went, why he lied about his age to join and why it was so important to stand up for your country and then the smell of fried chicken would jerk him back to reality once more.

It wasn’t long after Mom died that Alzheimer’s took him back to the foxholes and we were no longer able to bring him back to reality, My Dad, the American unsung hero was cursed to relive seeing his buddies die all over again, every day for the next ten years.

Now if he were still alive I would believe that he might prefer those memories to the reality of today. He would cringe to hear the words we support the troops but not the war and he would in his infinite wisdom tell you like he did us kids so many times that is like him saying he supports us kids but not what we are doing, he told us that if what we are doing is something to be ashamed of he would not support us or what we were doing but if what we were doing was for freedom or some noble cause he would be behind us 100% he said he never did anything half way and I suppose I got that from him.

My Dad also fought another war, a war to keep American jobs secure, he fought his company for twenty years to stop them from laying off good American workers in favor of cheaper, inexperienced labor that most times did not speak one word of English and made it hard for the American workers to train.

He watched as good people, hard workers were sent home and the new help was brought in, he was president of the union and he tried to throw benefits for those who had lost their jobs but after a while it was just too many and everyone else was afraid to be seen with him because everyone knew he was fighting the new labor tooth and nail and if they were seen with him their job might be next. I

 remember my Mom telling him that he might want to stop fighting for a while and I remember that was the first time my Dad became very angry, to the point that he was yelling with tears streaming down his face, and this is what my Dad said: He said as the tears streamed down his face, what if I had just stopped fighting for a while when I was one of many who were fighting for this country?

What if I had just laid down my rifle and allowed those around me to do the fighting for me? What if every one of us did that? Would that have made us safer, yes. But it would not have made our country any safer. I did not put on a uniform, spend two years in the service of my country to come home and allow people from another country harm my fellow citizens.

They may not be being shot at, their wounds may not be apparent to you or others but they have been injured, injured to the soul.

Many of them can’t afford to buy groceries let alone afford Christmas; most of them never once dreamed that our country would turn its back on its own, but they have seen it and felt it and as long as there are American citizens doing without because of these people I will not lay down arms I will fight on.

I suppose that day was the day I started to understand what he meant by service to your country, it did not necessarily mean putting on a uniform but it did mean fighting till your last breath for the citizens of this country.

Now I have taken up his cause, admittedly only after the marches did I start to involve myself in this war, but I like my Dad will fight till the bitter end as long as there is one American citizen who is being replaced by people who come here illegally.

My Dad did not fight so that they could have everything written in Spanish, his friends did not die so that they could march in our streets and demand rights that are reserved for citizens only, our troops fighting now are not fighting so that we can have comprehensive immigration reform, the blood shed by Americas finest is shed for the American citizen.

The citizen forced to get food stamps to survive because Pedro will work for less, the citizen who is without and no one cares, the citizens who need us and until there are no more, I like my Dad will not lay down my arms…

 

In many of the threads I have said very similar things.  My family history was documented by my grandmother and we have over 200 years of family lines helping to build America from the ground up.  We started in the upper east coast with fabric mills and then spread out to where my grandmother was born in Oklahoma when it was still Indian territory. 

I will not watch a 3rd world country illegally invade my country and turn it into the 3rd world country they left.  Carolyn Hileman spoke for herself when she wrote the article - but she spoke for me and my family too!

My 78 year old mom was just telling me last week when we were discussing the TX Super Hwy - I might be old and not as strong as I once was but I will pick up your fathers shot gun and fight for this country - it is not up for them to just steal.

I thank God everyday that there are more and more of us willing to fight.  I hope we are able to save America.  She is was worth the fight for generation after generation and she still is.

February 29, 2008 03:24 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I can't agree more with your parents and you.  My family also laid down their lives for this country from the Revolutionary war to drawing a line in the sand!  Now the war is definitely on the home front,  and it is up to each and every loyal American citizen patriot to stand side by side and see to it that this country remains the United States of America, and I mean one Nation Under God!  Nobody should be able to march into this country and tell us what to believe or what to say about what we believe.  This is our country, our flag, and our Constitution!  It's time to defend it! 

We must elect a Constitutional President and remove "by vote" all people from the Senate and House that are pro-illegal alien!  They must be replaced with loyal representatives that stand for the people and the United States and for nothing else!  All people elected representing the United States and it's people must be a citizens of this country and none other!  No dual citizenship's! 

 

If Eisenhower could deport the illegals so can we! 

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

 

 

 

 

February 29, 2008 04:37 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Agree, Lady Jane.  My father, his father and his uncles fought for this country, and I will not stand by and see it brought down in this way either. 

As you said, Nobody should be able to march into this country and tell us what to believe or what to say about what we believe.  This is our country, our flag, and our Constitution!  It's time to defend it! 

The Eisenhower example is perfect as to what can get done in this country without pandering and diminishing the will of we the people.  Eisenhower meant business, and he would have Never allowed what is occurring now.

 

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February 29, 2008 07:46 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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How right you are Icon!  Our founding fathers would be standing with us on that one too!
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.....FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!!!...they can have my weapons


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CJBL said:

I like my Dad will not lay down my arms

Posted by The Voice on Feb 27th, 2008
2008
Feb 27

I like my Dad will not lay down my arms
Carolyn Hileman

He sat in his foxhole and his thoughts turned to home, would Mom be frying chicken, had JC been taking care of his car and horse like he promised?

He thought of those carefree days with his buddies hanging out at the coffee shop on Spit and Whittle, ah those were the days, no real responsibilities, just school, the farm and the guys but those days are over now he thinks as a loud noise shakes him back to reality, ah the stories he would tell when he got back home.

Sometimes at home in his later years he would think back to those days in the foxholes, he would pull out the pictures, name the ones still living and the ones he said were the real heroes the ones who never came home.

He would always have to tell us why he went, why he lied about his age to join and why it was so important to stand up for your country and then the smell of fried chicken would jerk him back to reality once more.

It wasn’t long after Mom died that Alzheimer’s took him back to the foxholes and we were no longer able to bring him back to reality, My Dad, the American unsung hero was cursed to relive seeing his buddies die all over again, every day for the next ten years.

Now if he were still alive I would believe that he might prefer those memories to the reality of today. He would cringe to hear the words we support the troops but not the war and he would in his infinite wisdom tell you like he did us kids so many times that is like him saying he supports us kids but not what we are doing, he told us that if what we are doing is something to be ashamed of he would not support us or what we were doing but if what we were doing was for freedom or some noble cause he would be behind us 100% he said he never did anything half way and I suppose I got that from him.

My Dad also fought another war, a war to keep American jobs secure, he fought his company for twenty years to stop them from laying off good American workers in favor of cheaper, inexperienced labor that most times did not speak one word of English and made it hard for the American workers to train.

He watched as good people, hard workers were sent home and the new help was brought in, he was president of the union and he tried to throw benefits for those who had lost their jobs but after a while it was just too many and everyone else was afraid to be seen with him because everyone knew he was fighting the new labor tooth and nail and if they were seen with him their job might be next. I

 remember my Mom telling him that he might want to stop fighting for a while and I remember that was the first time my Dad became very angry, to the point that he was yelling with tears streaming down his face, and this is what my Dad said: He said as the tears streamed down his face, what if I had just stopped fighting for a while when I was one of many who were fighting for this country?

What if I had just laid down my rifle and allowed those around me to do the fighting for me? What if every one of us did that? Would that have made us safer, yes. But it would not have made our country any safer. I did not put on a uniform, spend two years in the service of my country to come home and allow people from another country harm my fellow citizens.

They may not be being shot at, their wounds may not be apparent to you or others but they have been injured, injured to the soul.

Many of them can’t afford to buy groceries let alone afford Christmas; most of them never once dreamed that our country would turn its back on its own, but they have seen it and felt it and as long as there are American citizens doing without because of these people I will not lay down arms I will fight on.

I suppose that day was the day I started to understand what he meant by service to your country, it did not necessarily mean putting on a uniform but it did mean fighting till your last breath for the citizens of this country.

Now I have taken up his cause, admittedly only after the marches did I start to involve myself in this war, but I like my Dad will fight till the bitter end as long as there is one American citizen who is being replaced by people who come here illegally.

My Dad did not fight so that they could have everything written in Spanish, his friends did not die so that they could march in our streets and demand rights that are reserved for citizens only, our troops fighting now are not fighting so that we can have comprehensive immigration reform, the blood shed by Americas finest is shed for the American citizen.

The citizen forced to get food stamps to survive because Pedro will work for less, the citizen who is without and no one cares, the citizens who need us and until there are no more, I like my Dad will not lay down my arms…

 

In many of the threads I have said very similar things.  My family history was documented by my grandmother and we have over 200 years of family lines helping to build America from the ground up.  We started in the upper east coast with fabric mills and then spread out to where my grandmother was born in Oklahoma when it was still Indian territory. 

I will not watch a 3rd world country illegally invade my country and turn it into the 3rd world country they left.  Carolyn Hileman spoke for herself when she wrote the article - but she spoke for me and my family too!

My 78 year old mom was just telling me last week when we were discussing the TX Super Hwy - I might be old and not as strong as I once was but I will pick up your fathers shot gun and fight for this country - it is not up for them to just steal.

I thank God everyday that there are more and more of us willing to fight.  I hope we are able to save America.  She is was worth the fight for generation after generation and she still is.

 

Here here.  You are not alone CJBL.  Millions will not sit by and watch this country be turned into a despotism by the Rich.  Trillions of dollars cannot stop millions of Americans determined to stop this.  Neither can the UN.  Nor Canada's troops.  We are people of a different sort- not the kind to lay down and give up on a fight.  I also wanted to say my families have been here since the Revolutionary war.  One man on my mothers side was a body guard to General George Washington. 


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March 2, 2008 12:28 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Being at a protest, or doing the protesting, a person could be killed by an illegal, or even by the police protecting the illegals rights.
If it ever came down to a serious confrontation between us and the NAU crowd, and their law enforcement and military lackeys, people could be killed.
I have spent 30 years and lots of money trying to stay informed, and spread the word of what is going on right now.
I wrote my first paper on Communism/Socialism, it's ideas and plans for the world when I was 19 and in the military.
None of the sheeple cared then, and none care now.
Some people will listen, some won't.
NAFTA, CAFTA, CODEX, NAU, Super Highway, open borders, Amero, Real ID, and the coming economic collapse, is all part of the plan to bring the US into the NWO fold.
Some of us may very well die in this struggle, but.......................
Is it not better to die for a reason,....... than to just die.



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Comment updated March 6, 2008 07:28 PM

 Icon, Michael, others:  Please do try to LIVE, as difficult as it might get.  We need all the awakened people to survive no matter what--if they wipe us out and no one is left alive but the Ruling Mutants and their brainwashed slaves, then all will be lost.  Survive, as tempting as it might be to die with Nathan Hale's "My only regret is that I have but one life to give for my country" going through your head.  If we let ourselves get slaughtered we play right into the hands of the NWO.  Anyway, to use or rather to  STEAL BACK a slogan badly used by our misguided Pro Open Borders brethren:  "Rise like lions after slumber  In unvanquishable number  Shake your chains to earth like dew  Which in slumber had fallen on you  Ye are many -- They are few."  Percy Shelley

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all that has been said in this get together is nothing but the truth, BUT all i am hearing is talk and no action. when will the majority get it together and shun all those running for and in office that are against constitutional government that our founding fathers intended. my family has been serving the armed forces since well before the civil war on the right side for the betterment of this great wonderful country that very few really love and understand what we the people stand for. my father and i have served in wars and been exopsed to hasmat and he died from it in 2002 and i am dying from chemical exposure. i can say we both say it was worth all we have and are going through.  this is our country and if we have to sacrifice our lives, then so be it. i protected my fellow americans and fought against all foreigners that wish harm to MY country.  no is the time to get rid of the business as usual in D. C. ( not a state, but to me a foreign country controling us ) and find a normal person that is trully an american is the best country type of person and put them to work running a constitutional government.  i repeat, all the clowns wanting the top job are not for america.


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HEY CJBL: Carolyn Hileman's story pierced my heart. Her father's story could be retold countless times by patriots--people who care about this only unique experiment for freedom in the long, long history of despotism. It's obvious that those in our "ruling classes" don't care, for all they care about is money and power. So it is up to us--to those who see what is happening to our country and who battle, all too often, the programmed ignorance and hostility of our fellow citizens. So, let's all resolve, in our own ways, to be like Carolyn Hileman and her dad, and NOT LAY DOWN OUR ARMS under any condition. Our arms, by the way, are not just weapons of defense, but are WORDS, LETTERS TO EDITORS AND CONGRESS, personal and quiet talks with our friends and co-workers, arguments with our family members (especially the stupid ones), discussions with our fuzzy-thinking pastors and fellow church members. These are the "arms" of the patriots here on FS, and all throughout this land, and LET US NEVER RELINQUISH THEM.

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