Baby Boomers Owe America's Young an Apology

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February 6, 2008 11:51 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I've been really frustrated by recent happenings, especially the results of the Super Tuesday primaries.  While doing some reading, I found the following article.  Here's an excerpt with the link to the full article below:

Baby Boomers Owe America's Young People an Apology
By Dennis Prager
Tuesday, December 4, 2007

We live in the age of group apologies. I would like to add one. The baby boomer generation needs to apologize to America, especially its young generation, for many sins. Here is a partial list:

First and perhaps foremost, we apologize for robbing many of you of a childhood.

We baby boomers were allowed perhaps the most innocent childhoods known to history. We grew up without material want, in one of the most decent places in world history, with media that preserved our sexual and other innocence, in schools that generally taught us well, and we were allowed childhood play from boy-girl play to rough and tumble boy-boy play to monkey bars and ringalievio. Our generation has deprived you of all these things. And while we were aware of the threat of a nuclear war with the Soviet Union, few of us believed that we were threatened with death anywhere near the amount we have scared you about death from secondhand smoke, global warming and heterosexual AIDS, to mention just a few of the exaggerated death scares we have inflicted on you.

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"Had the people, during the Revolution, had a suspicion of any attempt to war against Christianity, that Revolution would have been strangled in its cradle... In this age, there can be no substitute for Christianity... That was the religion of the founders of the republic and they expected it to remain the religion of their descendants." Charles Carrol, signer of Declaration of Independence, framer of the Bill of Rights, delegate to the Constitutional Convention, U.S. Senator
February 6, 2008 12:36 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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      Sadly, there are about fifty million people who are not here (that we know of) due to R-V-Wade and so cannot hear the apology.

      Some of those who are missing would be contributing to social security and in other ways helping the ones here as they grow old.

      Insttead, we have the euthanasia lobby and others contributing to a rather bleak outlook ahead.    Truly sad.. 

February 6, 2008 01:43 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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In my opinion, this all started with the children of the " greatest generation " ( the WW 2 vets )  it really took hold when these kids reached college age, about 1962 - it's been downhill for America ever since. As to why, the ME generation has alot of do with it, plus apathy for our nation. Can the damage be repaired ?  I don't know, we may have passed the point of now return.
February 6, 2008 01:51 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Yes, the Baby Boomers, sons and daughters of the greatest generation, have done a lot of damage.  I don't know if it's because they were raised differently or they just rebelled.

Interestingly, I was born too late to be a Baby Boomer but was born to parents from the greatest generation.  They were older when I was born.  My mom lived in OK during the Dust Bowl days and the depression.  My father was in the Army Air Corp during WWII.  He flew "the Hump" in the CBI and later flew in the Berlin Airlift.  Out of his suite of 10 roommates at Texas A & M, only 2 returned alive.  Yet, he never complained and moaned and groaned.  Nor did he ever disparage any soldier from the Vietnam era.

  My parents raised me well and I think I have pretty good values.  I cannot conceive of doing most of the things the Baby Boomers did.




"Had the people, during the Revolution, had a suspicion of any attempt to war against Christianity, that Revolution would have been strangled in its cradle... In this age, there can be no substitute for Christianity... That was the religion of the founders of the republic and they expected it to remain the religion of their descendants." Charles Carrol, signer of Declaration of Independence, framer of the Bill of Rights, delegate to the Constitutional Convention, U.S. Senator
February 6, 2008 02:45 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I agree with this article, but only with some aspects of it.  After WWII it was a conscious effort of the Government to break down the American family in any way possible so that they could bring the world to the current events...

My father always told me that they were working on tearing down the American values so that they could gain control of the country.  As long as there were strong family values and a strong sense of community, love for ones country, and strong religious foundation within the family groups they couldn't break it up.  The one way that they knew they could tear it up was with drugs, alcohol, sexual exploitation, and tear down the religious values.  If you think back at all that has gone on in this country in the last 20 or 30 years that is exactly what has happened.  The music has gotten crazier, they have flooded this country with drugs, the filth on the big screen is outrageous, and they have made it impossible for parents to build a solid family life because both have to work just to pay the rent and buy food. 

The schools have total control over the children and have blocked the parents from having any say about what is being taught (or not taught) Do they teach the children patriotism in the schools?  Do they really teach them about American history and how many have died to make this a safe country?  What about a core education in the schools?  I doubt that that is part of their agenda.  They want to educate the children to know how to read write and run a cash register so that they won't be complete dummies and can at least do the menial things that a "very" under class society can produce.  There will be few students that will go on to college under this system of education.  They will have plenty of worker bees though. 

I guess what I'm saying is the parents don't owe this generation an apology, the United States Government does along with the outsiders that are trying to take it over.  Understand that there is more to this than a bunch of uncaring out of control parents....

February 6, 2008 05:26 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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   Right LJ,  The family is the basic unit holding civilization together and, without it things will go down the drain.

   Although those trying to weaken family values have made some progress, we must hope they never succede.
 

 

 

February 6, 2008 06:02 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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 LJ My father always told me that they were working on tearing down the American values so that they could gain control of the country.  As long as there were strong family values and a strong sense of community, love for ones country, and strong religious foundation within the family groups they couldn't break it up.  The one way that they knew they could tear it up was with drugs, alcohol, sexual exploitation, and tear down the religious values.  If you think back at all that has gone on in this country in the last 20 or 30 years that is exactly what has happened. 

 

My parents said the same thing, only I think it was 35 to 40 years ago.  I must be older than you.  They tried to inform people back when it started but people thought they were nuts.   I respect my parents because they taught us to think for ourselves and they seemed wise beyond their years.  We can't give up. Have faith and have hope. 

February 14, 2008 02:52 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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A few years ago Good Morning America today did a story on recent college graduates who are still living at home with their parents. Some alleged expert on the issue said the reason why is that these recent graduates are the children of baby boomers and they have been coddled their whole lives.

The expert would be wrong in her identification of this generation. My mother was born in 1951 and she was born in the last wave of baby boomers and I graduated from college in 1992.  The 20-somethings who have just graduated are closer to being the grandchildren of baby boomers rather than the children. But, this discrepancy is not what I am offended by, but rather the expert’s assertion that my generation, the children of baby boomers, has been coddled by our parents.

My generation was the first to have a fully dysfunctional school system- which the boomers did nothing to repair.

My generation was the first to grow up in dysfunctional homes because it was the first whose parents routinely got divorced (or never bothered to get married to begin with).

My generation was the first to grow up being raised by daycare/babysitters because career women did not see the need to raise their own children.

My generation was the first to grow up in an environment based on the drug culture- that the baby boomers created.

If all of these things mean that my generation has been coddled, I hate to think what being neglected would have meant.
February 14, 2008 03:39 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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How about being responsible for their own actions?  How about listening to their parents when they were told not to do drugs and alcohol.  How about trying to own their own mistakes and not pushing the blame off on the parent or parents that had to work to support them?  How about being a bit more thoughtful about who to run around with?  Did these so called dysfunctional children not go to college?  If they went to college did their parents pay their way?  Were they grateful or did they expect it?  Many should have paid their own way,  then maybe they would have valued it a bit more. 

As far as the boomers being responsible for the schools dumbing down the children.  They had no more control over what was going on in the schools at that time then the parents of today's children do.  Just try to be a parent of a child in school today and change anything going on.  They will tell you to back out of it or home-school your child.  The only way things are going to change in school today is to take back the schools from the federal govt and give it back to the states - parents and teachers!  Get back to the basics.  Stop all of the crap going on in the schools today.

There have always been dysfunctional homes.  There have always been children that have been removed from homes because of one thing or another.  It just wasn't talked about like it is today.  People got divorced and married two or three times.  It just wasn't talked about.

After WWII women found out that they could do more than stay home and have babies.  They found out that they too could work and bring home money.  I don't see a problem with women working if they want to.  I do see a problem if women stay home and raise a family and in the end don't have Medicare, Social Security, or any form of money to lean on in later life.  We all know you must work to collect any of it.  (unless you're an illegal alien in this country)  Do all children want to support their mothers when they are elderly and pay all of their medical bills?  Maybe you would rather they work and collect Social Security and Medicare so they can pretty much care for themselves???

God!  The Baby Boomers didn't bring drugs into this country so your generation could get hooked on drugs!  Quit blaming them for the inability of your generation to say NO.  Don't they know right from wrong? 

February 14, 2008 03:50 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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“How about being responsible for their own actions?  How about listening to their parents when they were told not to do drugs and alcohol.  How about trying to own their own mistakes and not pushing the blame off on the parent or parents that had to work to support them?  How about being a bit more thoughtful about who to run around with?  Did these so called dysfunctional children not go to college?  If they went to college did their parents pay their way?  Were they grateful or did they expect it?  Many should have paid their own way,  then maybe they would have valued it a bit more. “ Are you talking about the boomers, because this certainly doesn’t describe me?  To some extent my generation learned from our parents’ mistakes and we are far more conservative than our parents are. “As far as the boomers being responsible for the schools dumbing down the children.  They had no more control over what was going on in the schools at that time then the parents of today's children do.” I guess you don’t know what a school board or PTA is for. “There have always been dysfunctional homes.” Not to the extent that the boomers have given us.  The divorce rate among boomers is enough to show that they have caused more dysfunctional homes than any other group in history has. “After WWII women found out that they could do more than stay home and have babies.” And by and large this is exactly what the women of WWII did, which is how we ended up with so many boomers.
February 14, 2008 04:35 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Yeah, I know what a school board is and the PTA.  They are worthless!  They used to be of some value, but aren't today.  They are led around by the school administration and we all know who leads the administration. 

Some of the women that worked during WWII decided to work on,  and others decided to leave the work force and stay home when the men came home from the war. (if they came home) Some were forced to work because they didn't make it back.  We had a baby boom after the war because that is pretty much what happens when soldiers come home in large groups.  It didn't have a whole lot to do with women getting pregnant all at once due to the fact that they were housewives.  I hope you're not saying that women must stay home in order to raise a family?  That isn't true.

The one thing women have going for them today is that they no longer have to be locked into a bad relationship.  If the relationship is bad and for some reason or another they need to get out they can leave.  For generations women were the whipping post of men.  Men have now learned they don't own a woman just because they are married to them.  It was a lesson that took a long time coming.  You have to know the history of the women of this country to understand what women put up with.  You also have to give credit to women that can stand on their own...

February 14, 2008 06:55 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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“Yeah, I know what a school board is and the PTA.  They are worthless!”  

And why is this?  Because babyboomers were too wrapped up in themselves to be interested in them while their children were in school.

“Some of the women that worked during WWII decided to work on,  and others decided to leave the work force and stay home when the men came home from the war.” 

My understanding is that most did not.  It would have a absolute slap in the face for any GI who came home after fighting the Germans or Japanese and couldn’t get a job because some feminist thought she was too good to be wife and mother- or too ugly to find a husband to support her.

“I hope you're not saying that women must stay home in order to raise a family?”

This is exactly what I am saying because the feminist alternative destroys society.

February 17, 2008 02:35 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Contrary to what you say, so called Baby Boomers were very interested in the PTA and were the true core of the group.  Also the Boomers happened to love and care about their children!  The PTA was probably formed by parents that were informally involved in their schools when there were one room school houses... They didn't have some national group that took over state schools and tried to run the schools.  Schools need to be returned to the state control and have a true working group called the PTA.  Then maybe they could get some to the issues that are in the schools worked through.  Parents now a day are better off home schooling their children and keeping them out of the main stream mess that the schools are in.

You have a real problem with women in general, I can see that.  I am glad that women live in a society that can put people like you in your place, and tell you that it is none of your business what they do, and tell you to understand that today's women can have it all.  They don't have to be married to have a child or to raise it.  That must infuriate you... By the way, no woman has to get married, or have children to fulfill their lives!  If they don't care to marry, or have children that is completely up to them.  If a career is what they want, then that is their choice.  You need to get a grip on the fact that women don't need a man to be complete.... I hope that you're really great looking because I know that beauty is only sink deep, and ugly goes all the way to the core! 

Baby Boomers - 1946 - 1964 

You appear to have a very low opinion of the Baby Boomers!  I think you need to do a little research on what they accomplished before you decide that the whole group was worthless. Lets  include millions of boomers who are entrepreneurs creating jobs for everyone, dedicated teachers who are shaping the next generation, scientists and researchers who are making our lives better... and so on. 

Let's see, the 80's were the me decade - the 90's was the decade of the victim, and this - the age of I'm not responsible!  Welcome to the 21st Century!

While you're at it do a little research on what women did during, and after the war.  Maybe you could get a clue as to what went on, and why they went to work...

February 17, 2008 03:26 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I'm a damn babyboomer and I don't owe an damn soul an apology!!!


February 17, 2008 03:32 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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As a babyboomer, I don't think I owe anyone an apology. What is, is what is. Placing a guilt trip on me or any of the other millions of baby boomers is not going to change anything except maybe make things worse. I always try to give my daughter the best advice, provide for her, and direct her to seek God first in her life. If any apologies are to be made it should be to our Creator, and this transcends all generations. Are we placing Him and His will first and bringing this to the forefront of our children and grandchildren?

 

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February 17, 2008 06:20 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Apologies should not be lumped into a whole group or generation's responsibility. Nothing is ever 100%. Every generation has its morally responsible people and every generation has its corrupt people. Our choice is to monitor our leadership for their standards and values and to raise our children to the best of our ability taking into account the values we learned. Its all there in the Ten Commandments - all the rules for happy and productive lives. Its time for the irresponsible to take immediate responsibility for lapses in judgment - not 60+ years down the road.
February 17, 2008 04:27 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I'm happy to see the Boomers standing up and being counted.  There are the good and the bad of all generations.  There's nothing to be ashamed of!

"Although do ya think we could straighten out today's generation???"  :>)

February 17, 2008 04:35 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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My mother is a baby boomer and I love her so much!!!!  And she loves me!!  Hooray for my mommy!!!

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