Republican Civil War, A Call To Action!

That is all well and good, Morgan, but a great many conservatives are just as afraid of Romney's globalist pedigree as they are McCain's liberal one. 

msbobbie said:

That is all well and good, Morgan, but a great many conservatives are just as afraid of Romney's globalist pedigree as they are McCain's liberal one. 

 

 

(CM) Jim from Texas said: Marcy is starting a new thread called something like Defeat McCain.  She will post an email text everyone can use to send to as many people as possible.  It attacks McCain's summer amnesty bill and his supporters who voted against the Cornyn Amendment to disallow gang members, terrorists, and other criminals!  Go there, copy the text to your email distribution list, and ask them to pass it on -- that's one tool we can use, and time is short!

Marcy has the thread set up -- please go there and send the email to all you know,. and ask them to pass it on, etc.  Word must spread quickly!

http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/21739/Defeat-McCain-please-e-mail-to-everyone/

msbobbie said:

That is all well and good, Morgan, but a great many conservatives are just as afraid of Romney's globalist pedigree as they are McCain's liberal one. 

 

 

JROESSLER said:

msbobbie said:

That is all well and good, Morgan, but a great many conservatives are just as afraid of Romney's globalist pedigree as they are McCain's liberal one. 

 

 

 

I agree msbobbie.  This election is not just about the damn border.  Romney's globalist approach to business, and his ties to the chinese are just as much a threat as our open borders. Someone with his ties to the chinese brings serious doubt about what he would/would not do to make a buck with those people. 

"You guys don't even LISTEN to what Romney says.  He has the interest of the US at heart, not his own.  He wants to make it a more level playing field and bring more jobs to American citizens. "

You're EXACTLY right FireWing! The people who don't like Mitt, for whatever "reason" don't seem to understand how ruinous the alternatives truly are. I'm going to work like hell to get Mitt elected for the next three days and then I'll quit the fight with a clean conscience, because if he DOESN'T win I'll know what's coming and I'll know I did my best!

JINGOIST said:

"You guys don't even LISTEN to what Romney says.  He has the interest of the US at heart, not his own.  He wants to make it a more level playing field and bring more jobs to American citizens. "

 

You're EXACTLY right FireWing! The people who don't like Mitt, for whatever "reason" don't seem to understand how ruinous the alternatives truly are. I'm going to work like hell to get Mitt elected for the next three days and then I'll quit the fight with a clean conscience, because if he DOESN'T win I'll know what's coming and I'll know I did my best!

So far I believe every one of them has "said" they have the interest of the US at heart.  Doesn't mean a thing. 

They are politicians that is what they do say whatever it takes to get elected.  If you think this guy justy dropped out of nowhere and is not a politician God help you.  His father was governor of MI, and ran for President in 1968, his mother ran for the Senate in 1972.  Willard himself ran for the senate, and was a governor.  He has been working his entire life for this.  You cannot possibly think he would say or do anything necessary to win.

Romney has stated over and over that he will close the border and NO AMNESTY - he has said it over and over and according to Numbers USA he is the only one they rate as acceptable on the illegal immigration issue.

Unfortunately for those of you who don't live in California you dont' understand how it works - so I will explain:

You flood in with illegals and have babies like crazy - started happening here after the first 3 million got amnesty in 1986.

By 2006 all of these babies, American citizen "anchor" babies are now of voting age.  They are more in touch with the "hispanic" issues and they "feel" for their parents "home country" more than America.  They join with their parents and extended family that they brought over to be part of La Raza, Maldef etc.

Now a state that would on a normal basis have so many "legal immigrants" coming in and "assimilating" into American culture - have a flood of immigrants who don't want to assimilate into American culture and in fact now believe in Atzlan and want to fight to be La Raza (The Race).  It happens RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES.

But the Open Borders / NAU / NAFTA Super HWY / SPP guys don't want you to "see it".  So they make the Iraq War the #1 issue - then they make the Economy the #1 issue and Health Care the #1 issue and even with people like Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck pounding the issue daily - the American people get up in arms but are very easily "swayed" by talk shows and the media pounding them in the head daily saying Romney can't win.

The Republican Party brings out the BIG Guns and says McCain is a "conservative" (which he is not) and that all the "conservatives" will "rally around him" (which they will not) just to fight off big bad Hillary.

Why bother - as even Ann Coulter can explain McCain is actually left of Hillary if you look at his voting and past actions.

As you all fight over who is the best conservative here or there and who flipped and who flopped (Ann Coulter is correct that McCain is a worse lier than Hillary) - the WINNER IS - NAU / SPP / OPEN BORDERS / VICENTE FOX W/ US TAX PAYER MONEY TO OPEN A MEXICAN CONSULATE IN ARK.

It is all smoke and mirrors and you are being played by some of the best in the business.

Huckabee is the ringer for McCain (most think he has been promised the VP job).

Click name or image at right for detailed immigration & contact information	DEMOCRATS		REPUBLICANS
	Hillary Clinton	Barack Obama	Mitt Romney	John McCain	Mike Huckabee	Ron Paul
Assessing Overall Candidate Promises (See criteria below)
No amnesty — Attrition through enforcement pushes illegal aliens back home	abysmal	abysmal	EXCELLENT	abysmal	EXCELLENT	good
Stop future illegal immigration	poor	poor	EXCELLENT	fair	EXCELLENT	good
Reduce legal immigration — Protect Americans from mass foreign worker competitions, congestion & sprawl	abysmal	abysmal	poor	abysmal	fair	poor
Assessment of Past Immigration Actions in Political Office
Based on Congressional, Gubernatorial and Mayoral actions	bad	bad	good	abysmal	bad	good
Assessing Specific Legal Immigration Stances (See criteria below)
	Clinton	Obama	Romney	McCain	Huckabee	Paul
End chain migration	abysmal	abysmal	FAIR	abysmal	good	poor
End visa Lottery	poor	poor	poor	bad	good	good
Control foreign worker numbers / protect U.S. workers	abysmal	abysmal	bad	abysmal	poor	good
No citizenship for births to illegal aliens	poor	poor	poor	poor	poor	excellent
Assessing Specific ILLEGAL">www.betterimmigration.com&cp=&... ImmigrationIllegal-Immigration-Ruling Dec-07 http://i.ixnp.com/images/v3.14.3/them... visibility: visible; padding-bottom: 0px; margin: 0px; vertical-align: top; width: 14px; line-height: normal; padding-top: 1px; background-repeat: no-repeat; font-style: normal; font-family: 'trebuchet ms', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; position: static; top: auto; height: 12px; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; cssfloat: none; border: 0px" class="snap_preview_icon" src="http://i.ixnp.com/images/v3.14.3/t.gif" alt="" width="14" height="12" /> Stances (See criteria below)
	Clinton	Obama	Romney	McCain	Huckabee	Paul
Mandatory workplace verification	poor	good	good	good	good	fair
Punish employers who hire illegal aliens	good	good	good	fair	excellent	poor
Local enforcement of federal immigration laws	fair	bad	excellent	good	excellent	good
Implement entry-exit system	bad	poor	fair	fair	excellent	good
More security at borders	fair	fair	EXCELLENT	good	excellent	good
End sanctuary cities	poor	bad	excellent	fair	excellent	good
Prohibit states from issuing driver's licenses to illegal aliens	fair	abysmal	excellent	poor	excellent	poor
Prohibit in-state tuition to illegal aliens	bad	abysmal	excellent	abysmal	bad	fair

This is EXACTLY what the NAU  / AMERO folks are counting on.

But when millions illegally violate our borders with the support of a foreign government (Mexico’s) and openly talk of “reconquista” —reconquest — this is not immigration but invasion.

Every candidate now proffers some kind of solution. But all Democratic and most Republican candidates have records ranging from ambiguous to treasonous. We can, however, count on Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) to guard our borders and enforce our laws.

Taxes, abortion, the Middle East and other issues are also vital, and Ron Paul is also right about these. But when we turn back the invasion, this country can satisfactorily resolve them all in due time. Yet if the invasion succeeds (and it advances a little farther each day), there may no longer be a country, or, if there is, it will not be our country.

Unless we defeat the invasion — not just halt it, but turn it back — some now reading this will see a time when the American majority becomes a minority in their own homeland. If we have a Third World majority, we shall become a Third World land and no longer be part of Western civilization — not a future Americans should ever want to leave for their children and grandchildren.

You can sit and hedge your bets over who flipped while who flopped (McCain has been caught out right lying and called on it even today by CNN but for some reason he is given the pass).

So if you are in a state unlike California where the anchor babies haven't yet reached 50% of your population yet - just wait another 10 years or so - then you will all flood out to vote and guess what - IT WILL NOT COUNT BECAUSE:

Then you will be crying and saying you don't want to speak Spanish and you will have 18 to 20 radio stations all in Spanish and Spanish TV will take up 35 to 45 stations and all the signs in town will be in Spanish and people will ask you why you don't speak Spanish?

You will then remember back to when you "haggled" over if McCain/Kennedy who lies and also had McCain/Feingold and McCain/Lieberman to name a few over Mitt Romeny who swore he would close the border and deport illegals and NO AMNESTY.

I can see why the choice is so hard.  So please move to LA or San Diego or the border towns of AZ and begin to see your future now.

JINGOIST said:

msbobbie said:

That is all well and good, Morgan, but a great many conservatives are just as afraid of Romney's globalist pedigree as they are McCain's liberal one. 

 

 

 

"globalist pedigree"? He's the ONLY one in the race anymore promising to close the border! msbobbie, there are two choices and two choices only to defeat Hillary. Mitt Romney and John McCain (aka Juan McAmnesty). A McCain vote is a vote FOR the U.N. and it's agenda. Romney's the only choice for responsible adults.

I have read that Romney is part of the Bilderberg group.  They are all about open borders and free movement of people and commerce, a single monetary system.  I do not trust him.  I believe the money he is sinking into his campaign is a considered investment. 

You believe what you want.

JROESSLER said:

msbobbie said:

That is all well and good, Morgan, but a great many conservatives are just as afraid of Romney's globalist pedigree as they are McCain's liberal one. 

 

 

 

I agree msbobbie.  This election is not just about the damn border.  Romney's globalist approach to business, and his ties to the chinese are just as much a threat as our open borders. Someone with his ties to the chinese brings serious doubt about what he would/would not do to make a buck with those people. 

Thank you. 

FireWing said:

JROESSLER said:

msbobbie said:

That is all well and good, Morgan, but a great many conservatives are just as afraid of Romney's globalist pedigree as they are McCain's liberal one. 

 

 

 

I agree msbobbie.  This election is not just about the damn border.  Romney's globalist approach to business, and his ties to the chinese are just as much a threat as our open borders. Someone with his ties to the chinese brings serious doubt about what he would/would not do to make a buck with those people. 

 

You guys don't even LISTEN to what Romney says.  He has the interest of the US at heart, not his own.  He wants to make it a more level playing field and bring more jobs to American citizens.

They are all saying things much different now than they did a year ago, and what their past records show.

Romney supports Free Trade, wants more of it, and believes the President should have Fast Track authority.  That is what got us NAFTA & CAFTA & SPP.

The lead attorney in the fight against illegal immigration in Hazeltown PA -Kris Kobach just joined the Romney team to help set up the fight against illegal immigration - read all the notes on the thread.

Kris Kobach, the head of the Kansas Republican Party, today endorsed Mitt Romney for president.

Heads of parties don't typically do that.

In a statement, Kobach said Romney "has outlined the clearest vision for how we are going to end illegal immigration in this country.

"More importantly, he has the record to back up his words.  When he was Governor, he vetoed a bill that would have rewarded illegal aliens with in-state tuition rates, and he also increased cooperation between state and federal law enforcement.  In one of our country's most liberal states, he stood up for the enforcement of immigration laws.  He will do the same as President."

Wow - I'm impressed CJBL -- see the brief email I received today about positive progress in Farmers Branch, Texas -- Kris is mentioned there as having consulted with them on their new ordinance attempt.  Maybe things are looking up -- we just need to keep McCain out of it!

http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/21766/Good-News-from-Farmers-Branch--Texas/