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January 24, 2008 05:45 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Congress Unveils Economic Stimulus Deal

 

Congressional leaders announced a deal with the White House Thursday on an economic stimulus package that would give most tax filers refunds of $600 to $1,200, and more if they have children.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Congress would act on the agreement — hammered out in a week of intense negotiations with Republican Leader John A. Boehner and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson — "at the earliest date, so that those rebate checks will be in the mail."

President Bush praised the agreement in a statement he delivered to reporters at the White House. "This package has the right set of policies and is the right size," he said.

The rebates, which would go to about 116 million families, had appeal for both Democrats and Republicans. Pelosi's staff noted that they would include $28 billion in checks to 35 million working families who wouldn't have been helped by Bush's original proposal. Republicans, for their part, were pleased that the bulk of the rebates — more than 70 percent, according to an analysis by Congress' Joint Tax Committee — would go to individuals who pay taxes.

Individuals who pay income taxes would get up to $600, working couples $1,200 and those with children an additional $300 per child under the agreement. Workers who make at least $3,000 but don't pay taxes would get $300 rebates.

The rebates, expected to go out in June, would cost about $100 billion, aides said. The package also includes close to $50 billion in business tax cuts.

The package would allow businesses to immediately write off 50 percent of purchases of plants and other capital equipment and permit small businesses to write off additional purchases of equipment. A Republican-written provision to allow businesses suffering losses now to reclaim taxes previously paid was dropped.

Pelosi, D-Calif., agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during a Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining the rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including those who make too little to pay income taxes.

"I can't say that I'm totally pleased with the package, but I do know that it will help stimulate the economy. But if it does not, then there will be more to come," Pelosi said.

Boehner said the agreement "was not easy for the two of us and our respective caucuses."

"You know, many Americans believe that Washington is broken," Boehner said. "But I think this agreement and I hope that this agreement will show the American people that we can fix it and will serve to move along other bipartisan agreements that we can have in the future."

Paulson said he would work with the House and Senate to enact the package as soon as possible, because "speed is of the essence."

The Treasury Department has already been talking to the IRS about getting the checks out "as quickly as possible, recognizing that the tax filing season is ongoing," said Treasury spokesman Andrew DeSouza.

The rebates would phase out gradually for individuals whose income exceeds $75,000 and couples with incomes above $150,000, aides said. Individuals with incomes up to $87,000 and couples up to $174,000 would get partial rebates. The caps are higher for those with children.

The agreement left some lawmakers in both parties with a bitter taste, complaining that their leaders had sacrificed too much in the interest of striking a deal. Many senior Democrats were particularly upset that the package omitted the unemployment extension.

"I do not understand, and cannot accept, the resistance of President Bush and Republican leaders to including an extension of unemployment benefits for those who are without work through no fault of their own," Rep. Charles B. Rangel, D-N.Y., the Ways and Means Committee chairman, said in a statement.

Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., the Finance Committee Chairman, said leaving out the unemployment extension was "a mistake," as he announced plans to craft a separate stimulus package in the Senate starting next week.

Majority Leader Harry Reid said the goal is to send the package to the White House by Feb. 15 for President Bush's signature. Reid said senators would want to look at add-ons including the unemployment extension and possibly money for highway projects.

Bush has supported larger rebates of $800-$1,600, but his plan would have left out 30 million working households who earn paychecks but don't make enough to pay income tax, according to calculations by the Urban Institute-Brookings Institution Tax Policy Center. An additional 19 million households would receive only partial rebates under Bush's initial proposal.

To address the mortgage crisis, the package also raises the limits on Federal Housing Administration loans and home mortgages that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac can purchase to as high as $725,000 in high-cost areas. Those are considerable boosts over the current FHA limit of $362,000 and the $417,000 cap for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's loan purchases.

After a key Wednesday night meeting in which the parameters of an agreement were reached, Pelosi and Boehner spoke again Thursday to cement the accord.

In the talks, Pelosi pressed to make sure tax relief would find its way into the hands of lower-income earners while Boehner pushed to include upper middle-class couples, according to congressional aides.

The package was drawing fire from liberal activists and labor unions upset that proposals to extend unemployment insurance and boost food stamps had been dropped. Many Democratic lawmakers had assumed those proposals would make it into the package, and critics of the deal said those ideas could pump money into the economy more quickly than tax rebate checks that won't be delivered until June.

Democrats wanted to extend unemployment benefits for people whose 26 weeks of benefits have run out, but Republicans resisted.

Conservative Republicans, meanwhile, were likely to be restless over tax rebates going to those without income tax liability.

Democratic aides said greater GOP flexibility over giving relief to poor families with children — who would not have been eligible under Bush's original tax rebate proposal — was the catalyst that moved the talks forward.

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Since the package includes everybody who also don't pay taxes, I am assuming the illegal aliens also benefit with it? And we want to stop illegal immigration???? With this package we will double from 12-20 to 30-40 million of illegal immigrants next year.  What a joke!

 




January 24, 2008 05:47 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Is this where I say, "I'm going to Disneywoooooooooooooooooorld!"


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January 24, 2008 05:50 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I think I'll buy a Tank of gas for my car!

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January 24, 2008 05:59 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I'll send the $600.00 to my mortgage company with a written note: To Principal Only. 


January 24, 2008 06:52 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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GiveAway? GiveAway? GiveAway?

Where does the government get their money?  Out of my pocket and your pocket.

We are just getting back our money that they took from us.




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January 24, 2008 07:19 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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txguy1 said:

GiveAway? GiveAway? GiveAway?

Where does the government get their money?  Out of my pocket and your pocket.

We are just getting back our money that they took from us.

 

 

    Maybe they just have to print  more paper?

January 24, 2008 07:27 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated January 24, 2008 07:28 PM
Oh, shoot, txguy.  I thought I was getting YOUR money!!


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January 24, 2008 07:55 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated March 16, 2008 12:05 PM

Stupid question I know, but: IF this is indeed to "stimulate" the economy, then why are they doing this in a manner that won't get to the consumer until MAY AT THE EARLIEST ?  Immediate effect could have been felt by the consumer in a TAX REDUCTION which would have been felt IMMEDIATELY in a WITHOLDING REDUCTION.

Is it because Democrats just can't say the words "Tax Reduction" ?

Just to be CONTRARY.......I'm buying ammo with the money.

January 25, 2008 06:00 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Congress Unveils Economic Stupidest Deal.

Well,...... I guess if they are going to give back some of my money, I'll just have to buy a another gun or more ammo.




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January 25, 2008 07:21 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I was listening or watching something yesterday that said if it didn't work (people saving it and NOT spending it) they would do it again. If I even get any, it goes in the rathole waiting for another one later!


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January 25, 2008 08:08 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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modill said:

Congress Unveils Economic Stupidest Deal.

Well,...... I guess if they are going to give back some of my money, I'll just have to buy a another gun or more ammo.

 

Kind of what I am thinking...a good "investment"!

I have to agree with Huckabee  in asking at the Florida debates last night just exactly whose economy this stimulous package will benefit, ours or China's?  I hope people don't rush out and purchase a bunch goods manufactured in China. Despite what anyone thinks of Huckabee , I think that was a good point!

The 50 billion targeted for businesses...it would be interesting how much new equipment businesses might  purchase that is manufactured in China.  

January 25, 2008 08:27 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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It's ALL funny money -- last I checked, the U.S. has been out of money for a loooonnnngg time!

Let's see -- we have huge deficits and gigantic national debt, so let's give some more of what we don't have to the taxpayers -- WHAT????  Just adds economic stimulation at the expense of MORE debt!  Pay me now -- owe me later!




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January 25, 2008 08:38 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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How long will it take the Feds to print the "funny money"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btCmQJ...

 

January 25, 2008 09:27 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Economic Stimulus Package Ignores the Laws of Economics

http://www.jbs.org/node/6952

March 16, 2008 11:48 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I always owe the IRS. I'll probably break even..... 




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March 16, 2008 02:57 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I know what the illegals are going to do with it,send it to their country of origin.Me I will have to hang on to it for uncertin times.With our dollar at 74 cents,its understandable why.


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March 16, 2008 03:30 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I am with modill on this one.... . 


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March 16, 2008 03:34 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I love how they give us 100 billion and snuck in 50 billion for business... IE their Rich friends.  Wasn't the 1.5 trillion stolen from our Social Security fund enough of a tax break for them?  These rich and the politicians who are puppets for them are out to rape us 3 ways to Sunday.  It's tea party time.  Only problem is where do I dump all of the Chinese goods in Arizona?  We don't have a sea port. 


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March 16, 2008 03:39 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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It would be poetic justice if ya'all would get something worthwhile with it, while  it is still possible.  Otherwise just paper your walls with it.  But in so doing, just remember the FDR edict of 1933.


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March 16, 2008 03:53 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Well, guys, I think I'll fill the tank on my motorcycle and invest the rest in Macedonian development bonds...or maybe  buy a bag of locally made dog food for that big, black mutt that got into the photo of my Bama Blue Belle...

ps - Macedonian development bonds don't exist...just a joke folks... 




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