The Disaster in New Hampshire

Early results show McCain will  win in New Hampshire. This is the reason that I do not trust Republicans from the Northeast. The CSPAN phone line is now open for our opinions.

i almost feel like the books are cooked . and were fed beans and franks by Fox & Cnn . It just don't look right imo . THEY will make sure Rudy and McCain get a delegate quickly

 

 

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Northeasterners never met a CFR or elitist they didn't like. I just heard that Duncan Hunter has one percent in early returns. Although Ron Paul has as big a percentage as Thompson, the networks are not showing Paul on the pie charts.

I'm sorry, but I'm feeling like the issue of "illegal immigration" is just not important to the general American public. If I am right (and McCain is living proof I am right on this: DAMN,  that man should not be able to win an election for DOG CATCHER after his treachery !), the U.S. is DOOMED. Meet you all at the bank to exchange greenbacks for Ameros (or will it be pesos?).

sparks3;  I couldn't agree with you more.  Evidently illegal immigration is not as important as we thought.  I just don't get it.  And if it didn't affect all of us I would say, "Let the idiots that voted this way put up with the illegal aliens."  But it does affect all of us.  And I'm fighting for my children and grandchildren.  The report was that the economy was the number one issue for the voters in New Hampshire.  Don't they see that illegal immigration has a very profound effect on the economy?  I guess not.  I'm ready to throw all our radios, tvs, computer and newspapers away and become oblivious.  My blood pressure literally will not take this.  I have just muted the tv because I refuse to listen to McCain crowing about his victory. And if Lindsey Graham gets on there again I'll probably throw something at the tv.  Can you tell I'm frustrated?

Mc Cain/Feingold

McCain /Kennedy

McCain/Leiberman

That's all I can remember - all I have to say about him

About this New Hamshire caucus - Are these people for real?????

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My take:

  First off, New Hampshire has often been famous for flaky results.     I see a different story in the numbers on both sides. Look at Hillary right there and actually ahead of Obama.   Think about the New Hampshire dynamic, one of the few states that allows registered independents to vote in the primary.   How many liberal independents were so assured that Obama woud win or were comfortable with either He or Hillary (lot's of undecideds) jumped over and cast a vote for the biggest liberal on the republican side which is without argument,  JOHN McCAIN.     They want liberals running in both parties so they went for the lib in both cases.     I think the Dems fear smooth talking Mitt in a General Election more than anyone.   

  The McCain train willl run off the tracks soon, there ain't enough stupid juice in South Carolina to let the Mainstream media swing the voters over to a tired old boring establishment RINO without help of a bunch of libs voting in a republican primary.    

If McCain is anywhere on a Republican ticket Pres/V.P. I vote Third Party.  Period.  

 

I did get a new idea for a McCain Drinking Game called  " My Friend(s)"  every time John reads off of his prepared statement (how lame) and says " " my Friend(s)" you have to drink.  Make sure you hide the car keys before you play.

TG

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tencz57 said:

i almost feel like the books are cooked . and were fed beans and franks by Fox & Cnn . It just don't look right imo . THEY will make sure Rudy and McCain get a delegate quickly

 

John Thompson 2008  

 

     Who is John Thompson ?  Is that your super morphed two-party candidate John Edwards and Fred Thompson ?

TG

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I cant believe McCain is winning, he was so nasty at the debate. NH proably doesnt feel illegal immigration yet the way the rest of us do. My Husband has family there, LOTS of LIBERALS, they live different there, I remember being looked down on when I would go up there because I was from L.I.N.Y., some of them can act like very snooty professors, very different there, I think all the illegals should go live in NH since they dont care about illegal immigration. I cannot live in a Country that has John McCain as President, or Obama or Hillary, just shoot me now

Tommygarage said:

My take:

  First off, New Hampshire has often been famous for flaky results.     I see a different story in the numbers on both sides. Look at Hillary right there and actually ahead of Obama.   Think about the New Hampshire dynamic, one of the few states that allows registered independents to vote in the primary.   How many liberal independents were so assured that Obama woud win or were comfortable with either He or Hillary (lot's of undecideds) jumped over and cast a vote for the biggest liberal on the republican side which is without argument,  JOHN McCAIN.     They want liberals running in both parties so they went for the lib in both cases.     I think the Dems fear smooth talking Mitt in a General Election more than anyone.   

  The McCain train willl run off the tracks soon, there ain't enough stupid juice in South Carolina to let the Mainstream media swing the voters over to a tired old boring establishment RINO without help of a bunch of libs voting in a republican primary.    

If McCain is anywhere on a Republican ticket Pres/V.P. I vote Third Party.  Period.  

 

I did get a new idea for a McCain Drinking Game called  " My Friend(s)"  every time John reads off of his prepared statement (how lame) and says " " my Friend(s)" you have to drink.  Make sure you hide the car keys before you play.

TG

 

You're right on some of what you say but I just can't understand why anyone would belive Mitt is a conservative? This guy is the King of holding up his finger to see which way the wind is blowing.

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Tommygarage said:

tencz57 said:

i almost feel like the books are cooked . and were fed beans and franks by Fox & Cnn . It just don't look right imo . THEY will make sure Rudy and McCain get a delegate quickly

 

John Thompson 2008  

 

     Who is John Thompson ?  Is that your super morphed two-party candidate John Edwards and Fred Thompson ?

TG

YOU TG win the prize . Your the only person to call me on that !  just wanted to see if anyone was awake or if were cooked too .

Your prize is an all day trip with the "Straight Talk Express" thur SC . 

BTW: Super Morphed - LMAO  tears man o man that was funny  

 

Fred Thompson 2008 

 

 

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sparks3 said: I'm sorry, but I'm feeling like the issue of "illegal immigration" is just not important to the general American public. If I am right (and McCain is living proof I am right on this: DAMN,  that man should not be able to win an election for DOG CATCHER after his treachery !), the U.S. is DOOMED. Meet you all at the bank to exchange greenbacks for Ameros (or will it be pesos?).

 

Folks, remember 75 - 80% of Americans are opposed to amnesty for illegals.  The numbers in the southwest are probably closer to 90 - 95%.  There are a lot of illegals back east but a lot of them are from eastern European countries and blend in with the population much better.  Therefore the citizens of the northeast are not as concerned about illegal immigration.

I said that to say this ---------- The pro-amnesty crowd -- McCain, Romney, Giuliani, Huckabee --  will not do well in the south and southwest.

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modill said:

Tommygarage said:

My take:

  First off, New Hampshire has often been famous for flaky results.     I see a different story in the numbers on both sides. Look at Hillary right there and actually ahead of Obama.   Think about the New Hampshire dynamic, one of the few states that allows registered independents to vote in the primary.   How many liberal independents were so assured that Obama woud win or were comfortable with either He or Hillary (lot's of undecideds) jumped over and cast a vote for the biggest liberal on the republican side which is without argument,  JOHN McCAIN.     They want liberals running in both parties so they went for the lib in both cases.     I think the Dems fear smooth talking Mitt in a General Election more than anyone.   

  The McCain train willl run off the tracks soon, there ain't enough stupid juice in South Carolina to let the Mainstream media swing the voters over to a tired old boring establishment RINO without help of a bunch of libs voting in a republican primary.    

If McCain is anywhere on a Republican ticket Pres/V.P. I vote Third Party.  Period.  

 

I did get a new idea for a McCain Drinking Game called  " My Friend(s)"  every time John reads off of his prepared statement (how lame) and says " " my Friend(s)" you have to drink.  Make sure you hide the car keys before you play.

TG

 

You're right on some of what you say but I just can't understand why anyone would belive Mitt is a conservative? This guy is the King of holding up his finger to see which way the wind is blowing.

First off, Mitt is Barry Goldwater compared to John McCain.   I am watching the Mainstream assault on Mitt and the propping up of the known establishment candidates in the race and it makes me wonder if I have not judged Mitt based on media bias early.   The question is do you want to vote for a rich guy ?  Yes , if he is honorable , he could not be bought as easily as someone who is looking get rich. .  I am not as sure anymore about Mitt being liberal at heart.  It appears by his voting record in his short term in Massachussetts that he actually adopted the ProAbortion stance to get elected in Massachussetts.  Not entirely noble I agree, but he does seem to have a heartright now to take a business approach and shake up the Washington DC establishment a little.   I know he could just be a shill for the CFR and I am watching closely for signs.  It does not appear to me that the Establishment media (who are CFR tools) prefer Romney and actually are propping up his rivals McCain and Huckabee.  That makes me at this point willing to consider voting Republican if Mitt is the nominee.  Duncan Hunter would be the easiest for me to pull the lever for but we must look at the voting block out there who are lead by the media.  

   I have not given up, If Duncan stays in he has my Arizona Primary vote.  I am holding open my options on Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney and have already scratched McCain, Huck and Rudy off my list as NO WAY.  Third party is my option beyond " my big three ".   Let's see what develops, I consider stopping McCain (RINO) and Huckabee (RINO) as just as important as stopping Clinton and Obama.   

TG         

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  Jani said:

About this New Hampshire caucus - Are these people for real?????

The jury is still out on that Jani!    They're so screwed up -- the last I saw even Kookcinich had over 2,000 votes, and even Gravel had 200+.

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txguy1 said:

sparks3 said: I'm sorry, but I'm feeling like the issue of "illegal immigration" is just not important to the general American public. If I am right (and McCain is living proof I am right on this: DAMN,  that man should not be able to win an election for DOG CATCHER after his treachery !), the U.S. is DOOMED. Meet you all at the bank to exchange greenbacks for Ameros (or will it be pesos?).

 

Folks, remember 75 - 80% of Americans are opposed to amnesty for illegals.  The numbers in the southwest are probably closer to 90 - 95%.  There are a lot of illegals back east but a lot of them are from eastern European countries and blend in with the population much better.  Therefore the citizens of the northeast are not as concerned about illegal immigration.

I said that to say this ---------- The pro-amnesty crowd -- McCain, Romney, Giuliani, Huckabee --  will not do well in the south and southwest.

TXGUY,   You are 100% right about that.  Why do you think there is the full court press by the media elites to try and get Hunter out of this race before we get out here in the wild west and we can take care of business.   50 States,  not only 2 will decide this deal.

   I still fear rampant voter fraud on Super Tuesday more than true voting results.    Not sure if I heard correct but at least 18 states turn over the vote tally to VNS out of state and who knows what happens inside their walls.  We need overhauls of the system of counting and the secrecy.  Voting results in precincts ought to be public knowledge at the exact moment that they are forwarded on to the central counting locations and verified as such.

TG   

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McCain was dead in the water over his policy on illegal immigration, but somebody came along and gave him CPR.  I also find it odd that he came from dead last to this in such a short peroid of time.

If voters do not mind paying for the care and feeding of millions of illegals and they vote accordingly, so be it. With homeland security so lax on our borders, they can also expect another terrorist attack at time, The choice belongs to the America voters !  We all live with the results.

RockyMtn1776 said:

McCain was dead in the water over his policy on illegal immigration, but somebody came along and gave him CPR.  I also find it odd that he came from dead last to this in such a short peroid of time.

If voters do not mind paying for the care and feeding of millions of illegals and they vote accordingly, so be it. With homeland security so lax on our borders, they can also expect another terrorist attack at time, The choice belongs to the America voters !  We all live with the results.

 

Rocky, if I can just change one letter of your quote, "but somebody came along and gave him CFR ! I don't buy this. The MSM are pushing the liberal agenda in both parties: Huckster, McCain, Obama, Billary. This way they're covered for the coming rape of our country. Dem is Rino is CFR is NAU.

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Its the medias job to push the liberal and neo-con CFR candidates,which all of them are.It seems that so far the people are falling in with the plan.There are only three that arent CFR.CNN is giving results,and Hunters name isnt even on there-

McCain-Romney-Huckabee-Guiliani-Paul-Thompson

I saw a video last night with Barry Goldwater,and he was endorsing Ron Paul.At least he has more sense than Chuck Norris.

Any way we look at it, I think our gooses (geese) are cooked. As far back as I can remember, there's never been a Republican or Democrat elected to the Whitehouse for a third consecutive term. Meaning, if a Republican serves two terms then a Democrat was put in office. From what I understand, that's the way it's been for almost 100 or more years. Hopefully, someone will be able to correct me if I'm wrong. History could be changed if we didn't have such a bunch of flakes who are currently running. We either have the CFR - Illegal Alien supporters or Ron Paul. That pretty much sums up the phrase: "NO COMPETITORS TO TAKE ON THE DEMOCRATS".

And, the way I see it, Republicans just aren't sending out the right message this election season. Even, independents and Republicans are voting for the Democrats. Illegal Immigration has to coincide with all of the other ills. But, as I've always said, "There needs to be actual play lists of how the candidates are going to get things done as President." Just talking about what they want to do with no substance of how to do it isn't going to get them the Whitehouse. Maybe, someone needs to slap them along side the head to give them a wake-up call. This is totally rediculous when the Republicans have no one that can really challenge the Dumb-o-crats. And, what's worse, the Clinton machine hasn't been destroyed yet. She came out with a win because of her "cry me a friggen river" speech yesterday and the majority of women came to her aide in N.H. Someone needs to do something in order to stop this Country from being given away to the Illegal aliens and the Big Businesses, but with the current field of Republicans that just won't happen.

So, now it's time to start looking towards the 2012 election season and find someone that can get the job done right, for once.

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Cream,

   Technically you are right because George Bush 41 was a RINO.   But don't you remember Reagan ( true Conservative) won two terms in LANDSLIDES like never seen before then there was the successful "Stay the course" campaign  of Goerge HW Bush (who had no intention of staying the course which lost him a second term)  He also uttered the lies " read my lips, no new taxes".   

All in All - 12 years Reagan Bush.    8 good ones - 4 not so good but Republican no less.  

 I realize "W" 's approval rating is not what Ronnie's was so tough uphill battle coming.

TG

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