San Fran Mayor Pushing for Tax On Soda

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December 18, 2007 07:07 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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To me, this is ridiculous.  The SF Mayor has decided that the city should charge a "fee" to retailers who well soda made with high fructose corn syrup because people are fat.  I like soda.  I drink soda.  I'm far from fat.  I'm glad I don't live in SF ( and for many more reasons that just this newest tax).

Here's a quote:

"This is not just hippy-dippy, left-coast, granola stuff," Gavin Newsom said about his proposal to encourage people to drink less Coca-Cola, Pepsi and other soft drinks. "There is a direct correlation between caloric sweetened beverages and obesity."

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San Fran Seeks Fee




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December 18, 2007 08:28 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Maybe being fat in SF is from puffing peters and not sodas.


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December 18, 2007 08:44 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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We all knew it was just a matter of time, and San Fran didn't dissapoint.  Once you start taxing certain groups for behaviors others want to control, (cigs), other targeted groups are not far behind, (obese).  Lets see...what or who will be next?  This is why we need government out of every little aspect of our lives.  If people want to smoke or drink sodas...let them...it is their life.  Oh wait, not...we belong to the government.  GEEZE
December 18, 2007 09:11 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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SD Born said: We all knew it was just a matter of time, and San Fran didn't dissapoint.  Once you start taxing certain groups for behaviors others want to control, (cigs), other targeted groups are not far behind, (obese).  Lets see...what or who will be next?  This is why we need government out of every little aspect of our lives.  If people want to smoke or drink sodas...let them...it is their life.  Oh wait, not...we belong to the government.  GEEZE

 

Agreed.  I think the next thing should be a stupidity tax.  They could start with Mayor Newsom.

I guess next you could tax fair skinned people because they're more likely to get skin cancer.  You could tax salt because it is linked to high blood pressure.  And, don't forget water--it can cause drowning.




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December 18, 2007 09:43 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Nothing would surprise me, you know they passed a stormwater "fee" here in Colorado Springs.  That fee is based on rainwater which falls off your roof and other impervious surfaces on your property...except they include rock gardens in that, oh and decks, even though they aren't impervious.

Why the fee?  Because Colorado passed the TABOR law which prevents any increase in taxes without the voters approval...so they get around that by calling it a fee.  They need the fee to fix canals and such in the city, because we just aren't taxed enough.   I've read by law you aren't allowed to collect rainwater, therefore it drains out of your gutters and runs off your roofs and decks and driveways into the city waterways, so basically we are taxed on something we don't buy and aren't allowed to keep.  Next we will have a special window tax.  Oh man, they already did that in England which is one of the reasons folks came here in the first place huh?  Well, what goes around comes around I guess. 

Why people insist on this nanny government over personal freedom is just beyond my comprehension. 

December 18, 2007 09:45 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp.......pass the chips.............
December 18, 2007 09:56 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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blaze77535 said: Maybe being fat in SF is from puffing peters and not sodas.

 

un-fair . can't post cause of blaze . LMAO   they like cheese in Gay-Bay also Cool

 

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December 19, 2007 12:57 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Commiefornia, the land of fruits and nuts. Maybe he should tax sodomy and use the proceeds to fight the wild fires their behavior has brought upon the area.


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December 19, 2007 01:34 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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blaze77535 said: Maybe being fat in SF is from puffing peters and not sodas.

You do have a way with words, blaze!  Laughing

I heard they were trying to tax everything containing caffine.  Wouldn't that include chocolate?

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December 19, 2007 03:31 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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See how stupid they are in San Francisco.  Tax vasoline and they'd be rich, rich, rich.


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December 19, 2007 03:41 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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you mean pop.

December 19, 2007 04:21 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Ohio said:

you mean pop.

 

We don't drink pop or sodas in the south. Everything here is a coke (Dr. Pepper, MT. Dew, Sprite, 7Up, whatever). When someone ask you if you want a coke, you just ask which kind do you have. They'll know what you mean. It's like when you ask for a glass of milk here, a lot of us say sweet milk so as not to get buttermilk, which is the only way I drink milk. Hate sweet milk.

As far as obesity, I know some people are just prone to be heavy, but if most people would get off their lazy butts, and get out from in front of the computer and TV, their butts wouldn't be so big.




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December 19, 2007 04:32 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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John07 said:
Ohio said:

you mean pop.

 

We don't drink pop or sodas in the south. Everything here is a coke (Dr. Pepper, MT. Dew, Sprite, 7Up, whatever). When someone ask you if you want a coke, you just ask which kind do you have. They'll know what you mean. It's like when you ask for a glass of milk here, a lot of us say sweet milk so as not to get buttermilk, which is the only way I drink milk. Hate sweet milk.

As far as obesity, I know some people are just prone to be heavy, but if most people would get off their lazy butts, and get out from in front of the computer and TV, their butts wouldn't be so big.

I call everything "Coke", too.  I used the word "soda" because so many people seem to use it now and I figured it was generic enough.  Maybe we should just call them "evil fat causing carbonated beverages".




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December 19, 2007 04:41 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Beverage Association's answer to the soda "fee":

Kevin Keane of the American Beverage Association calls the plan flawed and suggests the causes of obesity are many and varied and that instead of singling out the beverage industry, the mayor should single out video games instead (even though the causes of obesity are many and varied).




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December 19, 2007 04:57 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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FireWing said:

Beverage Association's answer to the soda "fee":

Kevin Keane of the American Beverage Association calls the plan flawed and suggests the causes of obesity are many and varied and that instead of singling out the beverage industry, the mayor should single out video games instead (even though the causes of obesity are many and varied).

 

This is what I was trying to say. Some people have certain conditions that cause obesity, diabetes for one, and numerous other conditions.

But I think for the majority of obese people, it's a combination of diet and lack of physical exertion. I'm one of the lucky ones. I eat about 6 meals a day, plus a pre-bedtime, bedtime snack, plus a bedtime snack, and I sometimes get up during the middle of the night and fix something to eat. I don't exercise, but yet stay between 165 and 170 pounds. All of my vital signs are in the normal range, and that's pretty good for my age.

So, to put a tax on something and say it's because it causes obesity is just plain stupid

 




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December 19, 2007 05:16 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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There's a direct correlation between Illegal aliens and loss of jobs too.  Now is the good Mayor willing to give up his sanctuary policies?
December 20, 2007 09:52 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Mammaw said: There's a direct correlation between Illegal aliens and loss of jobs too.  Now is the good Mayor willing to give up his sanctuary policies?

 

Best post I've read in a long time!


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December 20, 2007 10:14 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Maybe being fat in SF is from puffing peters and not sodas.

OMG, Blaze!  You're a riot!




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December 20, 2007 10:22 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Blaze, Good one!


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December 20, 2007 10:26 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Just asked an old childhood pal of mine who now owns a business in SF about this....she said, "Yes...it's true.  Gavin Newsom prides himself in being the most liberal mayor in the country!  He's actually proud of being an a-hole!  Get me outta here!!!!!!"


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