Can you remove a politician form office?

I have been around for a while and have seen a lot of things. I love my country and served it well. What is happening in America today is despicable and I have great concern that America and our way of life is in danger. The total disrespect by politicians to Americans leaves me angered. I asked myself could we remove a politician from office and started looking for the answer and much to my surprise the only recourse I found was described in the preamble to the declaration of independence.  

I'd like a nickle for every time this question has been asked on this forum.

            

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Have you had someone answer it?

FEDUP said: Have you had someone answer it?

 

Yes, but not sure where.  There is NO national recall capability - period.  All recall potential depends on the laws of each state.  There was a thread with more detail, but I know in Texas we can only use the ballot box to make changes - no recall provision for federal (Congress)!

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You are certainly correct that we have the right to take any action necessary to correct a government that has strayed too far from its mandate.  The problem is what is the defining point.  That pretty much has to be something that is agreed upon by an overwhelming  majority of the populous, as alluded to in the preamble.

It is also a certainty that the Department of Homeland Security would be what would be used to squelch any popular uprising, which would normally take place at the ballot box.  Given that we, as taxpayers, have granted the government a blank check to secure us from foreign (and domestic) subversion with military hardware, such an undertaking would have to insure success by intimidating those in governance with a return to their mandate if Constitutional safeguards had become too compromised.

Probably the best strategy is to keep "hitting" the politicians with our gripes, wearing them down with our constant complaints on their intransigence, until we cannot be ignored by even the mainstream media.  It is suprisingly pleasant to see that the Republican candidates are receiving hard hitting questions on illegal immigration.  Romney (and his illegal alien mansion) and Guiliani's exchange (about his having a sanctuary city in New York) needs to be repeated more often in the months ahead.

As far as the Democrats are concerned, they are managing to control any and all discussion on their political debate circuits by disallowing the illegal immigration issue to be discussed.  Those who are adept at infiltrating these debates need to get some "plants" into their debate circuit.  It would be more than interesting to see Hillary Clinton in "melt-down" over some of those planted questions.

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Jim from Texas said:

FEDUP said: Have you had someone answer it?

 

Yes, but not sure where.  There is NO national recall capability - period.  All recall potential depends on the laws of each state.  There was a thread with more detail, but I know in Texas we can only use the ballot box to make changes - no recall provision for federal (Congress)!

 

Yes I agree with you on that. It just really supprised me that we are not in control of our politicians other than voting them into office. This goes for state federal and county officals. 

Employers, Employers... said:

You are certainly correct that we have the right to take any action necessary to correct a government that has strayed too far from its mandate.  The problem is what is the defining point.  That pretty much has to be something that is agreed upon by an overwhelming  majority of the populous, as alluded to in the preamble.

It is also a certainty that the Department of Homeland Security would be what would be used to squelch any popular uprising, which would normally take place at the ballot box.  Given that we, as taxpayers, have granted the government a blank check to secure us from foreign (and domestic) subversion with military hardware, such an undertaking would have to insure success by intimidating those in governance with a return to their mandate if Constitutional safeguards had become too compromised.

Probably the best strategy is to keep "hitting" the politicians with our gripes, wearing them down with our constant complaints on their intransigence, until we cannot be ignored by even the mainstream media.  It is suprisingly pleasant to see that the Republican candidates are receiving hard hitting questions on illegal immigration.  Romney (and his illegal alien mansion) and Guiliani's exchange (about his having a sanctuary city in New York) needs to be repeated more often in the months ahead.

As far as the Democrats are concerned, they are managing to control any and all discussion on their political debate circuits by disallowing the illegal immigration issue to be discussed.  Those who are adept at infiltrating these debates need to get some "plants" into their debate circuit.  It would be more than interesting to see Hillary Clinton in "melt-down" over some of those planted questions.

 

Thank you for your feedback. I have and continue to notice an up surge in the population and there interest in politics as well as the anger level. My feelings are that the majority of Americans feel the same way. Organizing them will be a job but it can be acomplished. It would send the right message. We really do need to clean out the house.

FEDUP said:

Jim from Texas said:

FEDUP said: Have you had someone answer it?

 

Yes, but not sure where.  There is NO national recall capability - period.  All recall potential depends on the laws of each state.  There was a thread with more detail, but I know in Texas we can only use the ballot box to make changes - no recall provision for federal (Congress)!

 

Yes I agree with you on that. It just really supprised me that we are not in control of our politicians other than voting them into office. This goes for state federal and county officals. 

 

We lost control of the Federal recall process when the 17th Amendment was passed in 1912.  As you can see, there is a long term plan to reduce the power of We the People.  You obviously aren't aware of this piece of history, as are most others.  That is how the forces that oppose liberty work, over the long haul.

The following links describe how the 17th changed the removal process of U. S. Senators:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/15006/Repeal-the-17th-amendment/

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Employers, Employers...

Recall legislation is written into the State Constitution of 18 states, and some more limited than others.

http://www.ncsl.org/programs/legismgt/elect/recallprovision.htm

 

google "states with recall legislation" for more links.

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msbobbie said:

Recall legislation is written into the State Constitution of 18 states, and some more limited than others.

http://www.ncsl.org/programs/legismgt/elect/recallprovision.htm

 

google "states with recall legislation" for more links.

 

Thanks for the link. I have browsed through it. Its interesting that the bad boys and girls have access to such a wide variety of resources all at tax payers expense. In other words if you get into trouble don't worry we will help you get out of it.

Another option you can petition courts to file charges against member of Congress in all 50 states for treason, conspiracy, embezzlement, perjury, fraud etc. Bush and Cheney have been arrested.

Bugbaggers said:

Another option you can petition courts to file charges against member of Congress in all 50 states for treason, conspiracy, embezzlement, perjury, fraud etc. Bush and Cheney have been arrested.

Thank you for the feedback. It would be a great idea if our judicial system wasn't as corrupt as it is. From what I see and read In order to get the medias attention we will need an unorthodox approached in other words something that has not been tried before. If you come across additional information please let me know

Bugbaggers said:

Another option you can petition courts to file charges against member of Congress in all 50 states for treason, conspiracy, embezzlement, perjury, fraud etc. Bush and Cheney have been arrested.

The only way that would be possible is to find the type judges that were involved with the Arizona law. Which I am sure are far and few between!

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Bush now has installed within the presidency, the power to call in NATO and UN troops to quell domestic civil unrest, declaring himself dictator and removing all power from the courts and congress. If his power is threatened, he undoubtedly will use such power, cloaked in the GWOT, and claiming it is his mission from God and his patriotic duty to secure the country against domestic enemies. The MSM will tout his great wisdom and patriotism, declaring him the people's hero. The true patriots will lay in unmarked mass graves or languishing in prisons without habeas corpus. Basically, he would not hesitate to declare war on America.

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Normally the Secret Service arrests anyone delivering legal dicuments to the White House, for fear of arrest of the president, who has already been arrested 5 times before, with at least 3 criminal convictions, plus Cheney’s 2 convictions.

Congress would probably be a bit easier. Especially when in home districts.  Pelosi-CA, Conyer MI and Hoyer MD would be good targets for obstructing justice among other things.

 

 

Ok I think we all can agree on what the adminstration would do. That is why I suggest an unorthodox way to approach the problems. One at a time is prefered. I am sure grassfire along with many other organization are being monitored for written suggestions so other communications need to be found.

The Lakota Indian tribe just announced this week that they are seceeding from the U.S.and would have their own government.  When I heard this I thought "How nice if the rest of us could do the same."  I'm not sure just what is going to happen with this but apparently they have had enough of the U.S. government.

I wonder what country they are moving to. There is only one government here.

Fed up, one thing I am doing in my area is to educate people with the real truth. In addition, write my congressmen at least once per week. Nothing beats staying in touch.