New Plan Stops NAU Progress - Deports All Illegal Aliens 16 Months!

I Support BTAI And The Preservation Of American Sovereignty - Do You? 

We're all bitching about the NAU and illegal immigration and open borders and we're always on the defense trying to stop amnesty so I thought I might let you guys in on something big that is starting to catch fire!

A national grassroots group put together a BILL proposal that finally pushes an offensive attack!

The BILL PROPOSAL (fully known to all members of Congress and their staff but being purposely ignorred) would permanently end illegal immigration and open borders and help stop the NAU from progressing if enough Americans were to learn about it and join forces behind it.  Congress could be pressured into supporting the ACT and making it law - perhaps as early as next Spring - before the election places a pro-amnesty, pro-NAU president (or Congress) in power. 

I urge you to read it, learn about it, support it, and spread the word on it like wildfire so we can get it made into law. I urge all of us to go on the OFFENSE for a change - I for one am sick of always being on the defense!

If all illegal aliens are removed quickly and humanely (without a need to "round up" anyone, as they claim), the issue of "amnesty" dies forever and the NAU progress takes a major blow! Or we can all go with the status quo, bitch, bitch, bitch routine that's gotton us where we are now...? Is anybody out there pissed off enough to get into the fight and off their rearend?

If you have not read the Operation Safe Amerca FREE REPORT on the PUA's Web site, or some of the critical NAU RESEARCH links there, then I temporarily forgive you because you're not really informed yet as to why you should be outraged enough to fight for your country and our children's future? Sign the petition, organize, march, write & call Congress, scream at resturants, do something---BTAI is ready to go, all you have to do is commit to winning! Raw, raw, raw... go team go!

You can find BTAI in its original format at: http://www.patriotunion.org/reform.htm

Here is the intro (reprinted with the PUA's permission, of course).

BTAI - Bonn Temporary Amnesty Initiative

Main Issues Addressed

Immigration, Terrorism, Domestic Security

Top 5 Major Benefits of BTAI

1. Humanely removes 92% of illegal aliens from US soil within 16 months or less (without need to "round up" anyone).

2. Secures US borders within 6 months or less (with 99% security integrity).

3. Makes US soil 1000% safer from domestic terrorism within 3 years (safeguarding America's children).

4. Dramatically boosts entire US economy by opening up millions of high paying jobs now taken by illegal workers - increases wages across board for all US citizens as labor pools are restored to labor equilibrium through legality and the punishing of criminal employers.

5. Avoids US taxpayers having to pay an estimated $1 trillion annually over the next 30 years to subsidize the cost of providing an "amnesty" or "path to citizenship" for millions of uneducated and impoverished illegal immigrants.

Primary Purpose

BTAI is designed to quickly safeguard the US homeland and protect Americans from terrorism by increasing border and port protections and removing known and unknown internal threats from US soil via both voluntary removal programs,  forced attrition, and coordinated law enforcement programs.

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BTAI equal role is to serve and protect American citizens, reinforce sovereignty control and American nationalism, combat the rising tide of Latino-based racism and discrimination that is threatening decades of Civil Rights progress, to safeguard middleclass and low income worker jobs and wages while protecting against further wage devaluation, to end the centuries old practice of an artificially installed slave labor component in American society and commerce, boost the national economy by freeing up high-paying jobs to tax paying citizens, and increase tax revenues by helping eliminate Black market labor enterprise and systems so deleterious to our social and infrastructure, and to send a clear message to the world and Mexico that illegal immigration, in any form, is intolerable to the American citizenry and its government--by ensuring the prompt, orderly, humane, removal of those persons who are on US soil illegally--many who still pose a significant domestic terrorism or criminal threat to Americans--the overwhelming majority of who have committed at least one felony to enter the US illegally, secure work papers, and work illegally.

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BTAI will permanently end illegal immigration and remove the vast majority of illegal aliens within 16 months of enactment, secure our nation's borders within 6 months or less, and make the US 1000% safer from domestic terrorism within 3 years.

i'm on it . i'll make some copys for Nelson and Martinez and take it from there.

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I'll email my senators and rep. although if they don't do any better on this than they did on any other legislation against the illegal aliens it is useless.  We need to push hard on this.  Lou Dobbs had a great show on tonight.  Arkansas has finally had enough and is  enacting their own laws since the federal government won't enforce the law.  Calderon is at it again and guess who is helping him?  None other than Elvira Arellano.  She is on a hunger strike trying to force the U.S. to stop persecuting the illegal immigrants.  Personally I hope she starves.  Well Lou spoke up and said "Calderon, stick it."

I respectfully beg to differ with the opinion that any legislation with the AMNESTY word ever appear anywhere again.  I just do not trust this.  First it cleans up their criminal record, then it lets them apply for citizenship.  The 21 November 2007 OC Register news article "Fee Increase Triggers Immigration Deluge" says that 3.5 million applications for citizenship were received in just two months.  And to give them "resettlement money" is just too much.  No.  Something's wrong with this .

We will never win and Congess will never fix this if we go piecemill, one person or group at a time. I have wasted my time too and came to the your conclusion Mammaw...

That's why I go with the PUA strategy now... get one grassroots ACT moving forward on the offense, get it known to the public and supported by Americans until we reach a critical mass... then use that critical mass to slam Congress into the corner where they have no choice - support the ACT or risk mass walk-outs, boycotts, and neverending demonstrations - as well as the election (for those whose term is up).

I remember this lady, all by herself started Mothers Against Drunk Drivers (MADD) and everyone laughed... now look at our laws today because of her. She took one step at a time and the elephant fell! 

Don't waste time writing your leaders yet, write your friends and family and lets all work toward getting a critical mass of awareness and support - well that's my small opinion anyway... 

Oh, you might write Lou Dobbs and see if he will help get the word out???

 

MARCELE:

You need to read BTAI. The amnesty refers to a temporary period in which illegal aliens who voluntarily deport are given forgiveness for their immigraiton related crimes (not other crimes) upon being deported. they get a 16 month window to comply or be automatically considered felony trespassers and treated as potential terrorists by all law enforcement. Don;t be fooled---this is very different--they must deport to get their amnesty!

BTAI offers resettlement money and pays for it with the savings created when millions of illegal aliens leave and quit impacting the system. Taxpayers invest $1 to save $200 over just 3 to 5 years.

Today, illegal immigration is costing us over $200 billion annually. BTAI cost about $20 billion total (if I recall correctly). Even bigger savings comes from stopping amnesty, which will cost taxpayers $1 trillion each year for 30 years. (See this article for details http://www.patriotunion.org/news/by_issue/immigration/could_amnesty_bankrupt_economy.htm

You can pay illegal aliens a small amount to leave, or you can pay them a giant amount to stay!

One of the things everybody overlooks is that the "comprehensive immigration reform" was going to not only "amnesty" about 20 million illegal aliens, but it would have also given them the right to bring in 80 million impoverished alien family members. If you think your wages or job prospects are low now, wait until that human tsunami of poverty hits the American infrastructure and your family and you have to stand in a bread line to feed yourself or your kids! That's the NAU coming hard...

I encourage everyone to visit the nontourist areas of Mexico and look at our future for this country if we fail to send these tresspassers home and allow the NAU to destroy our country and Constitution!

Roco

 I did read it, such as it was paraphrased.  Where can I find the real legalese version of the BTAI?

BTW I  live in California so I don't need to go anywhere to see Mexico.  Where do you live?

When that "comprehensive immigration reform" bill that you mentioned failed to pass--that was when I started to have hope  and decided to join this struggle. 

Thanks for joining the fight - please keep with it however you might. 

I only press people to look at the nontourist areas of Mexico because most people live in a shallow tourist world concept of Mexico and rarely see the reality side of it. It is a very dark and dangerous place these days. Rick Sanchez on CNN reported how the human traffickers are paying off the border cops---CNN is just catching on to a reality I've know for a decade, having lived in Mexico myself for a few years. 

Legalease:

On the BTAI page you will find a shortcut on the top-right, which drops you down to all the links at the bottom of the page.

BTAI is purposely written without legalease (in draft form) because it's grassroots based, not Congressional based. The point is for average Americans to be able to read and understand it (so I am told). I am also told that it is not written in stone, that is, they are willing to amend it as long as the over-all position and approach in maintained (not sure how that gets achieved though).

Once BTAI is formally sponsered by someone in the Congress, it will be converted into traditional legalease by that person or the PUA or perhaps both, etc.. That's not something most of us want to knaw through but you can be sure the PUA will post it for all to see when that day comes (if).

Look at the bottom for these two links...

Initiative

Backgrounder (PDF)

Bonn Temporary Amnesty Initiative (PDF)

Roco, it is amnesty, amnesty, amnesty.   No, no, no!!!

Getting tough on the companies who hire them will have them fleeing!

Yes, I'd like to know where you live, too.   You may have lived in Mexico, but you don't sound like it. 

And, whoever wrote that BTAI thing doesn't know or understand them very well.

 

 

Mammaw said: I'll email my senators and rep. although if they don't do any better on this than they did on any other legislation against the illegal aliens it is useless.  We need to push hard on this.  Lou Dobbs had a great show on tonight.  Arkansas has finally had enough and is  enacting their own laws since the federal government won't enforce the law.  Calderon is at it again and guess who is helping him?  None other than Elvira Arellano.  She is on a hunger strike trying to force the U.S. to stop persecuting the illegal immigrants.  Personally I hope she starves.  Well Lou spoke up and said "Calderon, stick it."

 

i knew i wasn't alone when i Yelled at my TV " STARVE ".

"Stick it " had me rocking

i liked the rep's from AR also . just don't seem to be anything like what Huck wants us to believe, Hmmm . Reps say Ar is Feed-Up with them . i believe the Reps  

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Suzi said:

Roco, it is amnesty, amnesty, amnesty. No, no, no!!!

Getting tough on the companies who hire them will have them fleeing!

Yes, I'd like to know where you live, too. You may have lived in Mexico, but you don't sound like it.

And, whoever wrote that BTAI thing doesn't know or understand them very well.

 

 

 

suzi you read to fast . i'm still at it with a coffee

what page / piece do you think is amnesty ?  

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This thing looks very suspicious to me. 

• Who is Z. Bonn?
• Where are the details?
• Why can we not access several of the pages?
• What is EnkiOro?

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I'd wage to say that if a lot of us sent the fax sheet via eMail to all 535 in Congress over the next few weeks, this proposal would certainly be ready for discussion by the start of the second session. Hell it would be pretty hard to ignore. Where are the non amnesty reps with their own similar plans to tackle this problem in short order? There's hardly any doubt that rampant illegal immigration will be quite the election issue next year. So, with the presidential vote and so many reps' seats up for renewal, I'd expect to be hearing some good old campaign promises about now. Didn't Mitch McConnell have his Article V Convention momentum going full steam just recently? Seems to me I heard Tancredo talking about an agenda for getting tough on illegals not long ago...and why isn't The Great White Hope candidate RP talking about it at all? How do we get our lawmakers to face the music on the key issues instead of avoiding them like the plague? If they're all in capitulation mode and just knuckle under to big business and the NAU, we'll never have a true representative gov't. again...oh well, I'll start with sending this to my two senators and on down the line. If by next summer we don't see a total commitment from a major candidate on this plan or a similar one, it will definitely be time for Operation "Total Recall."

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Well... I guess we could arrest them all and put them all in prison and pay $26,000 per year for each one and never give them amnesty in exchange for giving up the idea of deporting them and being rid of them for good and saving trillions of US taxpayer dollars???? Wow, 2o million in prison---why didn't I think of that? :)

I don't have all the answers... but name one grassroots org or one Congressperson or one President that has said we need to get these trespassers out of the country and back home ASAP accept the PUA? Name one idea that gets the border secure in less than 6 months that was put forth in Congress or by Bush? All I hear is excuses---DHS took in less than 200 deportations and said they were overwhelmed!!!! Get real folks---BTAI stops that excuse instantly!!! Deport first, handle lawsuits later, I say!!! There is a 1952 law on the books that makes it all legal!!!

Everybody forgets, you'll never get everything you want in any BILL, but what about the important things... what about getting the trespassers out of the country and making it a felony and forfieting their amnesty if they ever return to the US illegally? I don't care if we let them off for violating our immigration laws formally---hell---our federal government is already doing that on their own illegally! BUT---the aliens get to stay here!!!!!! I say deport them all if they're illegal!!!

I'm giving up here... you guys want a silver platter solution and when one grassroots org. tries to give you one and solve the problem (giving you the means and the ends you're really looking for in a final result) and puts out a good plan---the best I've seen so far anywhere---you rip it apart like ungrateful lions on skinny Roman Christians.  

We have 20 million invaders on US soil and your choices are: 1) wait for the election and a pro-amnesty Congress or President to take power---the current power structure will not do anything without being forced, 2) give up or keep defending new amnesty pushes and hope you keep winning, 3) WASTE TIME infighting and giving the amnesty groups time to make another power play, 4) WASTE TIME trying to come up with another plan (12 months min.) and give the amnesty group the delay they need to rally a better fight, or---as I suggest--- 5) put your questions and requested BTAI plan changes to the PUA leadership, let them quickly modify BTAI where possible, and then back BTAI and spread the word like a firestorm and hope you're in time before the changing of the guard on Capitol Hill----take back our country!!!

I have not seen one offensive push in the grassroots community - we've all been on the defense - amnesty defense 1,2, 3... they're wearing us all down!

If you think for one moment that attrition plans will work, you're not informed (read articles at PUA news). http://www.patriotunion.org/news/by_issue/immigration/illegal_immig_foes_support.htm

Attrition is a delaying tactic to get an amnesty passed----why do you think they never stop trying to pass one? Why do you think they won't secure the border or deport illegal aliens who do not have a formal criminal record? Why do you think DHS won't function and cries lawsuit's are stopping them from doing their job-----when the government wants something done, it does it----look at the NAFTA Superhighway going through even with Congress votes to stop funding----NAU in progress people!! Wake up! Amensty is an hidden agenda - attrition is a scam!

Once the invaders are allowed to stay, in all cases, we all lose---the stakes are nothing less than our entire country and economy and standard of living and the future of our kids----the truth be known, if they pass an amnesty, I will get by personally until I croak... but I'll leave my kids a craphole country----not what my parent left me----not a great place where they could live the American Dream---that Dream dies when amnesty lives----deport at all costs----save America! Save our kid's future---that's me in a nutshell!

Good luck to you guys. I'm leaving Fire Society for a while so I can go out and try to spread the word where it's more receptive---I'm not giving up... just moving forward---I hope you join me! We have until Feb/March 08 to get this moving in Congress toward a permanent deportation result enacted---no time to waste!

 PS---I lived in Tijuana 2 years (during and after 9/11) and a total of 4 years all over Mexico! I know these people inside and out and it takes every once of professionalism not to tell you what I really know about them, lest I be considered too fringe or unfair---go fish! Catch something good poeple - it's been fun but I gotta go now... :)

I read the BTAI and the background on it.

The background:  Full of inflamitory remarks.  If you want to get Congress' attention, you can't do it looking like a nut case.  You have to be cool and present solid fact.  Let Congress look like nutcases on the floor.

The BTAI:  Itself, not too bad an idea though I disagree with it in principle.  We should use attrition and go after corps with the RICO act, not penny-ante enforcement.

That being said, this document is flawed.  No clear path exists from the savings recouped to the funds used to put this program in action.  Therefore, it remains another bill that as of now would stop at the taxpayers door.

 

1.  Though to a much less extent there are inflamitory remarks in the BTAI.  "An FBP entitles the user to a one-way trip..."  Page 15, para #44. 

 2.  The military are not trained babysitters (I'm retired military, I know.), nor enough doctors in the military to provide the enmasse "10,000" a day quotas through the centers.  There are barely enough to provide to active duty personnel and retirees.  Page 17 para #62.

3.  This act requires the military services to be bilingual.  You are not going to find 7.5% of the US air Force are bilingual.  Page 17 para #61.

4.  Nothing prohibits the use of private land "as a last choice" from being used as a first choice.  In addition this act prohibits private landholders from being compensated at all if their land is confiscated by eminent domain. The federal government has already established internment camps.  Those should be used.  Page 17, para #68.

 5.  This document disenfranchises 1/2 million legal aliens trying to immigrate the lawful way, buy putting them at the back of the line.  Page 19, para #75, #77.

 6.  The author needs to learn the difference between war reparations and war appropriations, neither of which will fund Phase II.  Page 27, second paragraph.

 7.  A "one-time" list of terrorists negates the turnover of terrorist personnel and as such is extremely shortsighted.  Page 27, third paragraph.

8.  Somebody please draw me a map of the "Free Transportation" system because it doesn't make a lick of sense.  Page 14,15.

9. Notwithstanding Page 22, para 93; page 26, third paragraph is unconstitutional.  Federal authorities cannot remove a state governor.

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Doesn't this thing have to make it outta committee?   Has it?

Galeon7 - As Roco stated, this was a draft and open to amendments.  Would it not be worth submitting your concerns to the authors with your reasons for questioning them and offer amendments to gain more solid support?

He is right when he says we are never going to have the perfect solution in any one bill, folks.  But we have to start somewhere which is what the PUA is trying to do.

Roco said: 

"We have 20 million invaders on US soil and your choices are: 1) wait for the election and a pro-amnesty Congress or President to take power---the current power structure will not do anything without being forced, 2) give up or keep defending new amnesty pushes and hope you keep winning, 3) WASTE TIME infighting and giving the amnesty groups time to make another power play, 4) WASTE TIME trying to come up with another plan (12 months min.) and give the amnesty group the delay they need to rally a better fight, or---as I suggest--- 5) put your questions and requested BTAI plan changes to the PUA leadership, let them quickly modify BTAI where possible, and then back BTAI and spread the word like a firestorm and hope you're in time before the changing of the guard on Capitol Hill----take back our country!!!"

He has a point.  The only way WE THE PEOPLE are going to have a say in this is if we come up with a viable solution because our congress sure isn't coming up with anything acceptable.  Reread his #4 above again.  This is exactly what is happening now.

So for those of you who will support this, get the word out.  For those of you who don't, provide the PUA with alternate solutions to the parts you don't like or question.  At least we'd all be working together.  Power in numbers.

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I hate to say it but if I know some Mexicans (the ones living here), they are not going to volunteer to deport or apply for amnesty provisions on anyones' plan. Not in significant numbers. They snuck in under the radar, got their illegitimate jobs, apts, and car loans under the table, and as long as they can keep flying that way, they will. If you consider how they paid their mordidas and camped out with coyotes on the way in, then look at their ingrained attitudes about Atzlan, ReConquista, and disdain for us in general, I seriously doubt they will budge that easily. Haven't you seen their protest rallies where La Raza cusses us out for being "racists" and even their little kids who were born here are screaming: MEXICO, MEXICO !!! That's Nationalism, man and it's a menace at this point. They will choose to stay isolated and insulated as long as they can until ICE comes to get them or the jobs are denied to them. That's when they'll probably decide to self deport. The simple fact of the matter is that tens of millions of them are playing us and have to be forced to leave. How? By rigid enforcement of the hardline laws already on the books. Laws that have previously been tested and proven to work; i.e. Eisenhower in the 50's and Reagan in the 80's. That's why Congress wrote them so stringently in the past, they had foresight of the whole world wanting to flood here. Just try a nice shamnesty guy fairness "deport with provisions program" and see how many of them jump at it. Maybe the ones who genuinely want to be USA citizens would think about it, but the vast majority who are Mexican Nationalists here will be laughing all the way to Bank America in their SUVs with their two jobs and five kids. They have their own growing Latin communities here and I'm sure are feeling strength in number right now. Their consensus is to stay low key and avoid even worrying about the "Yankee gov't." as long as they can. It's really their land, so they think, remember? If they had to go back to Mexico, they would know how to after liquidating assets, no problem. This is the thinking of the hundreds of average illegals that I've talked to. And they know damn well that if the jobs and the housing dried up, it would be mass exodus for them with very little choice in the matter. So, to coin an expression which is also a handle in this forum: we gotta BUST the EMPLOYERS EMPLOYERS and the LANDLORDS LANDLORDS !!! (unless ICE wants to recruit a million more serious agents...yeah right)

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Follow the money ! The Plan sounds good, might even be passed by some miracle but would it ever be enforced? Thats what we have run into in Colorado. We passed some of the toughest immigration laws in the country but they are not enforced. Just something to pacify the voters, plus the illegals are happy since very little is being done to deport them.

The only way illegals will ever leave is if our economy gets worse than it is in Mexico or we are lit up by a nuke that was smuggled in by our Southern border. The idea of deporting between 30 to 30 million illegals in 16 months is impossible.

The voters have been lied to so much for so long, most believe nothing out government tells them.  What a shame it has come to this !!

Fire, your post makes alot of sense and I can see where many won't self-deport without cutting off the magnets.  They will carry on as usual.  So....  we have laws on the books and our government won't enforce them.  I guess the way I see it is  there are millions of us that are so frustrated but run into brick walls everywhere we turn... the government,  ACLU,   big corps,   LaRacists!  People are truly looking for viable solutions and putting alot of work into it.  So, even though we may not fully agree with what they've  come up with, it's really our only way of forcing the government to take action at this point.  If they see us FORCING their hand in big numbers, and threaten their re-elections, they will be more likely to listen.  I think this is the perfect timing for an all-out push by a coalition of all the groups, because if nothing else, the candidates will be pummeled on their positions AND past voting records.

Maybe we couldn't get them to self-deport, but we sure could make a BIG stink about the situation, don't you think?  At the very least, more States would step up to enforce with a strong public showing against NOT enforcing the laws.  Maybe I'm dreaming but I think overt public pressure goes a long way.

 

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