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November 27, 2007 03:02 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Hi!  Conservative Groups have wrote and signed an important Coalition Letter urging President George W. Bush to serious consider Pardoning and Freeing the wrongly imprisoned former Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean.  The Following is the important Coalition Letter:

 

CONSERVATIVE GROUPS RAISE MORAL CONCERN IN BORDER AGENTS CASE  

 Over 30 Organizations Ask President Bush For Immediate Pardon

November 19, 2007



President George W. Bush
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C.

Dear President Bush:

As a nation, Americans are sometimes reminded of the unintended consequences of choices made by our elected leaders on the lives and well-being of people whose faith and trust were freely given in order to effectively govern. History has proven that the mere words and deeds of a president can change the course of history and profoundly affect both the tone and direction of the nation’s moral character for generations to come. We are also reminded that while a president’s words can reflect either a full measure of American generosity or the unsurpassed power of its military strength, the impact of a president’s silence can have the same dramatic and devastating results. That is why we find your continued silence on the issue of a presidential pardon for Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean of great concern. We sincerely feel that your inaction and lack of immediacy to personally address the inhumane treatment of these two agents runs counter to the tenets of a compassionate conservative and the Christian values that many of your supporters find a sustaining beacon of your presidency.

The purpose of this letter is not to argue the legal points of the Ramos and Compean case but to raise deep concerns among conservatives regarding the larger moral implications surrounding their continued incarceration. As you deliberate, their lives are clearly at risk. The government’s response to this threat has been to place these two agents in solitary confinement for over 10 months—an inhumane treatment and gross injustice that is worse than the terrorists and enemy combatants receive at Guantanamo Bay.

Conservatives who champion the sanctity of every life, born and unborn, find it unacceptable that some disillusioned Americans are being forced to conclude that the lives of Ramos and Compean are simply what the government has deemed an acceptable level of “collateral damage” for a failed border security and national immigration policy. As Ramos and Compean sit in solitary confinement 23 out of 24 hours each day, the failure to personally intercede on their behalf sends a chilling message to other Border Patrol agents and law enforcement officers who will now question their own professional judgment, mute their response and make our borders less secure. This further erodes the public’s confidence in the Administration’s commitment to do what is necessary to secure the borders.

Another equally alarming outcome of the Ramos and Compean case has been the inherent fraying and deterioration of public confidence in the American judicial system. When an admitted illegal alien drug smuggler who repeatedly brings drugs into this country is given government immunity to testify against the very law enforcement officers hired to stop him, the American public sees the scales of justice tilting the wrong way. How can these actions be justified on moral grounds to the American people? How can they become the lessons we teach our children? They can’t.

When justice becomes so tilted, sentences so excessive, and the treatment of prisoners inhumane, then a president must act to bring the scales of justice back into balance. He must use his power to restore faith not only in our judicial system, but faith in the kindness and forgiveness of the human spirit that is a measure of this nation’s moral character. Therefore, the signers below respectfully ask you to demonstrate your compassion and willingness to forgive and immediately consider pardoning Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean.

 

Here is the Link to this important Letter:

http://www.rapidresponsemedia.com/ramoscompeanletter.html

November 27, 2007 09:06 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Several hundred thousand of us have signed a petition seeking President Bush to pardon Agents Compean and Ramos.  How many people signed a petition seeking the agents to remain incarcerated?

We live in a nation in which WE THE PEOPLE govern.  Our President needs to heed the call of THE PEOPLE and get these agents released NOW!

November 27, 2007 09:49 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Brack said:

Hi!  Conservative Groups have wrote and signed an important Coalition Letter urging President George W. Bush to serious consider Pardoning and Freeing the wrongly imprisoned former Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean.  The Following is the important Coalition Letter:

 

CONSERVATIVE GROUPS RAISE MORAL CONCERN IN BORDER AGENTS CASE  

 Over 30 Organizations Ask President Bush For Immediate Pardon

November 19, 2007



President George W. Bush
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C.

Dear President Bush:

As a nation, Americans are sometimes reminded of the unintended consequences of choices made by our elected leaders on the lives and well-being of people whose faith and trust were freely given in order to effectively govern. History has proven that the mere words and deeds of a president can change the course of history and profoundly affect both the tone and direction of the nation’s moral character for generations to come. We are also reminded that while a president’s words can reflect either a full measure of American generosity or the unsurpassed power of its military strength, the impact of a president’s silence can have the same dramatic and devastating results. That is why we find your continued silence on the issue of a presidential pardon for Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean of great concern. We sincerely feel that your inaction and lack of immediacy to personally address the inhumane treatment of these two agents runs counter to the tenets of a compassionate conservative and the Christian values that many of your supporters find a sustaining beacon of your presidency.

The purpose of this letter is not to argue the legal points of the Ramos and Compean case but to raise deep concerns among conservatives regarding the larger moral implications surrounding their continued incarceration. As you deliberate, their lives are clearly at risk. The government’s response to this threat has been to place these two agents in solitary confinement for over 10 months—an inhumane treatment and gross injustice that is worse than the terrorists and enemy combatants receive at Guantanamo Bay.

Conservatives who champion the sanctity of every life, born and unborn, find it unacceptable that some disillusioned Americans are being forced to conclude that the lives of Ramos and Compean are simply what the government has deemed an acceptable level of “collateral damage” for a failed border security and national immigration policy. As Ramos and Compean sit in solitary confinement 23 out of 24 hours each day, the failure to personally intercede on their behalf sends a chilling message to other Border Patrol agents and law enforcement officers who will now question their own professional judgment, mute their response and make our borders less secure. This further erodes the public’s confidence in the Administration’s commitment to do what is necessary to secure the borders.

Another equally alarming outcome of the Ramos and Compean case has been the inherent fraying and deterioration of public confidence in the American judicial system. When an admitted illegal alien drug smuggler who repeatedly brings drugs into this country is given government immunity to testify against the very law enforcement officers hired to stop him, the American public sees the scales of justice tilting the wrong way. How can these actions be justified on moral grounds to the American people? How can they become the lessons we teach our children? They can’t.

When justice becomes so tilted, sentences so excessive, and the treatment of prisoners inhumane, then a president must act to bring the scales of justice back into balance. He must use his power to restore faith not only in our judicial system, but faith in the kindness and forgiveness of the human spirit that is a measure of this nation’s moral character. Therefore, the signers below respectfully ask you to demonstrate your compassion and willingness to forgive and immediately consider pardoning Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean.

 

Here is the Link to this important Letter:

http://www.rapidresponsemedia.com/ramoscompeanletter.html

This is AWESOME.  Thanks for letting us be part of it!

November 27, 2007 10:37 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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One thing is quite obvious.  WE ARE BEING IGNORED BY PRESIDENT BUSH.  Even though new information reveals the fact that Aldrete-Davila crossed the border to deliver another load of drugs AFTER being shot, and AFTER he was given immunity to testify in the trial of Ramos and Compean, the President still continues to ignore this case.

We must now be driven to the conclusion that we are not dealing with a good person, in our President.  He has no sense of humanity, nor a sense of justice.  A lesson needs to be learned from this.  We must be a lot more careful in our choices of who we vote for in the future.  We must demand certain questions be asked of candidates before we cast our votes.  We must conclude that when these questions are not asked it is because the answers will not be the ones we expect.

For example, no candidate, so far, has been pinned down on their position as to interior enforcement.  What that implies is that there will be none by the so called front runners that we will have to chose from.

One particularly wimpy assertion in this letter to the President is the following:

"The purpose of this letter is not to argue the legal points of the Ramos and Compean case but to raise deep concerns among conservatives regarding the larger moral implications surrounding their continued incarceration."

Really?  And why would one NOT argue the legal points?  Sutton withheld the facts surrounding the drug smugglers additional drug run into the United States after being granted immunity to testify.  That sure seems like a cogent argument to present for their release.  It also places into question just how "conservative" these groups that put together this letter really are.




We don't need new "comprehensive" immigration laws. We need widespread, well funded enforcement of existing immigration law, i. e. IRCA 1986. http://www.oig.lsc.gov/legis/irca86.htm ANYTHING ELSE IS JUST A BIG CHARADE! Remember the Alamo AND Agents Compean, Ramos, Brugman, Sipe, Rhodes, Deputy Sheriff Hernandez, K-9 Officer Mohr & Noe Aleman. ***Redress it all by repealing the 17th Amendment to the U. S. Constitution: http://www.articlev.com/repeal_the_17...
November 27, 2007 10:54 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I thought this letter was great.   I've also signed petitions and sent emails and as a matter of fact, I sent the following one the day before Thanksgiving - but I know it went to eyes that can't see and a heart filled with stone.

***

Dear President Bush,
 
Tomorrow could be a very historic day for you.  A day that would boost your poll numbers considerably.  A day where two families would be united together in love, hope and happiness. 
 
But it takes your humbleness of spirit to make it happen.  You must pardon Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.  They've suffered enough pain.  Please allow them their freedom.
 
Let's put this issue behind us once and for all.
 
It would be the nicest Thanksgiving gift you could give millions of American citizens whose hearts are breaking over the treatment these American heroes have had to endure.
 
I'm giving this to God and I hope that your heart will heed His message of forgiveness for these men.
 
Thank you in advance for doing the right and Godly thing.

***

Well, as we know, he has no "humbleness of spirit" and he's proving that day in and day out.




Tom Tancredo, my hero.
November 27, 2007 11:07 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Bracks txs .

don't we already have a pentition to Pelosi "Demanding" the pardon of the agents AND Sutton to be investigated ? is this a conflict ?




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November 30, 2007 01:31 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated November 30, 2007 03:40 AM
Employers, Employers... said:

One thing is quite obvious.  WE ARE BEING IGNORED BY PRESIDENT BUSH.  Even though new information reveals the fact that Aldrete-Davila crossed the border to deliver another load of drugs AFTER being shot, and AFTER he was given immunity to testify in the trial of Ramos and Compean, the President still continues to ignore this case.

We must now be driven to the conclusion that we are not dealing with a good person, in our President.  He has no sense of humanity, nor a sense of justice.  A lesson needs to be learned from this.  We must be a lot more careful in our choices of who we vote for in the future.  We must demand certain questions be asked of candidates before we cast our votes.  We must conclude that when these questions are not asked it is because the answers will not be the ones we expect.

For example, no candidate, so far, has been pinned down on their position as to interior enforcement.  What that implies is that there will be none by the so called front runners that we will have to chose from.

One particularly wimpy assertion in this letter to the President is the following:

"The purpose of this letter is not to argue the legal points of the Ramos and Compean case but to raise deep concerns among conservatives regarding the larger moral implications surrounding their continued incarceration."

Really?  And why would one NOT argue the legal points?  Sutton withheld the facts surrounding the drug smugglers additional drug run into the United States after being granted immunity to testify.  That sure seems like a cogent argument to present for their release.  It also places into question just how "conservative" these groups that put together this letter really are.

 

Hi There!  Unfortunately, You are right about that we are not dealing with a good Person, in our President.  President George W. Bush has been asked and requested many, many times by many members of the U.S. Congress, and by many, many other People to either Pardon and completely Free Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean, or to completely commute their very way too harsh and very excessive Prison sentences.  George W. Bush has completely ignored  all of those requests by the many, many People and organizations to either Pardon and completely Free BPA Ramos and Compean, or to completely commute their very way too harsh and very excessive Prison sentences.  George W. Bush has totally refused to do anything to try to correct this huge outrageous miscarriage and travesty of justice.  George W. Bush is Not a caring Person, and he is a huge monumental Jerk.

December 1, 2007 08:04 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated December 1, 2007 08:11 PM
tencz57 said:

Bracks txs .

don't we already have a pentition to Pelosi "Demanding" the pardon of the agents AND Sutton to be investigated ? is this a conflict ?

Hi!  This is definitely Not a conflict.  I think and believe that you are referring to this Petition: 


Free the Texas Three and Secure our Borders
To President George Bush, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Republican Leader John Boehner, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell:

Signers: 68,097

http://patriotpetitions.us/borders/

 

 

 Or you could be (also) be referring to this Petition, here on firesociety.com:

 

Petition: To Speaker Nancy Pelosi Asking for Investigation of Johnny Sutton:


http://www.firesociety.com/article/11790/Petition--To-Speaker-Nancy-Pelosi-Asking-for-Investigation-of-Johnny-Sutton/

 

December 1, 2007 08:32 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated December 1, 2007 08:49 PM

Hi!  Many, many members of the U.S. Congress have asked and requested President George W. Bush to either Pardon and completely Free Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean, or to completely commute their very way too harsh and very excessive Prison sentences.   Here are some of these Links to those requests made by some of the Members of the U.S. Congress:

 

TANCREDO DEMANDS PARDON:
CONGRESSMAN SAYS BUSH ABANDONED LAW ENFORCEMENT WHEN THEY NEEDED HELP MOST:

February 6, 2007:
http://tancredo.house.gov/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=1255

HUNTER TO PRESIDENT: “PARDON OUR BORDER PATROLMEN”:
For Immediate Release:

July 2, 2007:
http://www.house.gov/list/speech/ca52_hunter/Libby_R_C_Pardon.shtml

Congressman Rohrabacher Agrees With Libby Commutation
Wants Imprisoned Border Agents Next :
Washington, Jul 3 -
http://rohrabacher.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=68757

Tancredo Renews Call for Border Agent Pardons in Wake of Libby Clemency:
July 3, 2007:
http://tancredo.house.gov/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=1287


Senators Feinstein And Cornyn Ask President Bush To Commute The Sentences Of Former Border Patrol Agents Ramos And Compean:
Wednesday, July 18, 2007:
http://cornyn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=ForPress.NewsReleases&ContentRecord_id=db568bed-802a-23ad-4ae9-6139ad3dfe9e&Region_id=&Issue_id

Senators Feinstein and Cornyn Ask President Bush To Commute the Sentences of former Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean:
http://feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=NewsRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=decefea1-f89b-d7c4-0295-7f9ecc6a7cfc&Region_id=&Issue_id=

 

Culberson Working to Free Unjustly Imprisoned Border Patrol Agents:
Date: 07/20/07:

Congressman John Culberson and 21 of his House colleagues sent a letter to President Bush today requesting that he immediately commute the sentences of Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean. These agents are serving time in prison for wounding a Mexican drug smuggler who brought 743 pounds of marijuana across the Mexican border.
http://www.culberson.house.gov/news.aspx?A=325

 

Tancredo Renews Call for Release of Border Agents:
November 16, 2007:

http://tancredo.house.gov/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=1325

 

AS mentioned before here, George W. Bush has totally refused to do anything to try to correct this huge outrageous miscarriage and travesty of justice.  George W. Bush is Not a caring or good Person, and he is a huge monumental Jerk.


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