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November 19, 2007 06:12 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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JOHN FUND ON THE TRAIL
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Nancy Pelosi tries to force the Salvation Army to hire people who can't speak English.

Monday, November 19, 2007 12:01 a.m. EST

It's been less than a week since New York's Sen. Hillary Clinton and Gov. Eliot Spitzer had to climb down from their support of driver's licenses for illegal aliens. Now House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has moved to kill an amendment that would protect employers from federal lawsuits for requiring their workers to speak English. Among the employers targeted by such lawsuits: the Salvation Army.

Sen. Lamar Alexander, a moderate Republican from Tennessee, is dumbstruck that legislation he views as simple common sense would be blocked. He noted that the full Senate passed his amendment to shield the Salvation Army by 75-19 last month, and the House followed suit with a 218-186 vote just this month. "I cannot imagine that the framers of the 1964 Civil Rights Act intended to say that it's discrimination for a shoe shop owner to say to his or her employee, 'I want you to be able to speak America's common language on the job,' " he told the Senate last Thursday.

But that's exactly what the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission is trying to do. In March the EEOC sued the Salvation Army because its thrift store in Framingham, Mass., required its employees to speak English on the job. The requirement was clearly posted and employees were given a year to learn the language. The EEOC claimed the store had fired two Hispanic employees for continuing to speak Spanish on the job. It said that the firings violated the law because the English-only policy was not "relevant" to job performance or safety.

 

"If it is not relevant, it is discriminatory, it is gratuitous, it is a subterfuge to discriminate against people based on national origin," says Rep. Charles Gonzalez of Texas, one of several Hispanic Democrats in the House who threatened to block Ms. Pelosi's attempts to curtail the Alternative Minimum Tax unless she killed the Alexander amendment.

The confrontation on the night of Nov. 8 was ugly. Members of the Hispanic Caucus initially voted against the rule allowing debate on a tax bill that included the AMT "patch," which for a year would protect some 23 million Americans from being kicked into a higher income tax bracket.

Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, a moderate from Maryland, was beside himself. Congressional Quarterly reports that he jabbed his finger on the House floor at Joe Baca, the California Democrat who chairs the Hispanic Caucus, and yelled, "How dare you destroy this party? This will be the worst loss in 10 years."

Mr. Baca was having none of it. "You see this on the [voting] board?," he yelled back. "This is against me. This is against me personally." Luckily for Democrats, C-Span's microphones did not pick up the exchange. But it was audible to reporters in the press gallery. They also heard Rep. Luis Gutierrez of Illinois say that English-only efforts were symbolic of "bigotry and prejudice" against those who speak other languages.

After testy negotiations, the Hispanic Caucus finally agreed to let the tax bill proceed after extracting a promise from Ms. Pelosi that the House will not vote on the bill funding the Justice and Commerce Departments unless the English-only protection language is dropped. "There ain't going to be a bill" with the Alexander language, Mr. Baca has told reporters.

Sen. Alexander says that if that's the case, "thousands of small businesses across America will have to show there is some special reason to justify requiring their employees to speak our country's common language on the job." He notes that the number of EEOC actions against English-only policies grew to some 200 last year from 32 a decade ago. In an attempt at compromise, he has offered watered-down language that would still allow the EEOC to file many actions, but he says House Democrats rejected it.

 

Mr. Alexander says his battle is about far more than what language is spoken on a shop floor. "The EEOC actions turn diversity, our greatest strength, against the interests of our common future as Americans," he told me.

The late Albert Shanker, head of the American Federation of Teachers, once pointed out that public schools were established in this country largely "to help mostly immigrant children learn the three R's and what it means to be an American, with the hope that they would go home and teach their parents the principles in the Constitution and the Declaration that unite us."

Mr. Alexander says that noble effort is in danger of being undermined: "We have spent the last 40 years in our country celebrating diversity at the expense of unity. One way to create that unity is to value, not devalue, our common language, English."

The battle over Mr. Alexander's amendment is about whether a consensus that used to unite liberals and conservatives in this country can continue to hold. If it can't, expect the issue to become a flashpoint in the 2008 elections. Republicans have their political problems with Hispanics over some of their approaches to illegal immigration, but they may be nothing compared to the problems Democrats have if they continue to cave in to their anti-assimilation extremists.

November 19, 2007 06:15 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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"Pe-loser" is on a roll, ain't she?  I hope she keeps going like this....she'll guarantee the democrats lose everything from dog catcher on up at this rate.




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November 19, 2007 06:18 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Your right - I just saw Tucker Carlson nail a Democratic Congressman on this issue.  He was all over that Democratic Congressman and made him look like a fool.

Tucker was quoting the constitution and was in top form.  He made the Dem's look like fools.

November 19, 2007 06:59 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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We are all descended from immigrants that came to America to escape all manner of problems - freedom of religion, poverty, famine, wars, et al. They all seemed to have taken the time and had the intestinal fortitude to realize they were in another country and that English was the language of that country. My grandparents came from Poland and learned to speak and read English. They learned to laws of the land they were adopted by and obeyed those laws. They paid their taxes and were always too proud to take handouts. They took their citizenship tests without the benefit of having the questions dumbed down as to where they are now - one of the questions on the current citizenship test is, "What color is the US flag?" You can check out the rest of the asinine, insipid questions on the US Immigration website.

While they spoke Polish amongst their own nationality, the business of life was conducted in English. And I believe this is the way it was for all European immigrants. They maintained their cultures within their own groups and did not force it on the whole country, nor did they expect special treatment and policies. And if you want to get into profiling, who got more profiling than the Poles and the Italians? We are still the subject of jokes even though the Poles built the largest university in Europe during the middle ages.

Now Pelosi wants special treatment for a group of ILLEGAL aliens. This woman thinks she is the queen of America because at this time, she is the top woman official in Washington. What will she do if Hillary is elected (God help us)? We can only hope we "color her gone" as soon as possible. She is hazardous to our health.

November 19, 2007 07:18 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Yup...Stenny Hoyer nailed it with this, "How dare you destroy this party? This will be the worst loss in 10 years."


"A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders." Larry Elder
November 19, 2007 07:29 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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oh you'll talking bout Ms Impeachment off the table Pmeoff ?? yea must be her . you'll know she took God off of all house letter heads . she's a real piece of shit in my book . no need to be nice , she isn't


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November 19, 2007 07:41 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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tencz57 said: oh you'll talking bout Ms Impeachment off the table Pmeoff ?? yea must be her . you'll know she took God off of all house letter heads . she's a real piece of shit in my book . no need to be nice , she isn't

She did that too tencz57?! This witch HAS TO GO! She's  as dangerous as the ACLU or CAIR!

She has a lot of nerve trying to FORCE the Salvation Army to do this....these are tactics employed by our foes at the ACLU!

CALL HER AND TELL HER "WHERE TO GET OFF"! Capitol Switchboard number is 866 340 9281. 

 




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November 19, 2007 07:48 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I don't recall ever seeing God on congressional stationery, but it doesn't surprise me.  But...I'm sure she'd tell you she did it "for the children!"


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November 19, 2007 07:57 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Patsy said: I don't recall ever seeing God on congressional stationery, but it doesn't surprise me.  But...I'm sure she'd tell you she did it "for the children!"

 

patsy she striped God of all and any paper products they use

real piece of American work ain't she

she sleeps with Bushco & wakes up and says Good morning D.Cheney 




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November 19, 2007 08:11 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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She's a piece of something, alright tencz.  Not sure it's a piece of work, however.


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November 20, 2007 08:21 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Here is another article that I sent to Numbers USA and asked if they could post a FAX bulletin about.  This issue is making me furious!

Democrats Move to Force Employers to Accept Non-English Speaking Applicants for Hire Under Threat of Federal Lawsuit

Democrats led by the wisdom of leaders such as Nancy Pelosi are trying to force employers to hire non-English speaking candidates in another move to placate the illegal immigration lobby. In another attack on American voters and small business owners who dare to challenge Congress on their attempts to shoe horn illegals into your schools, onto your roads and into your tax paying pockets. To add insult to injury Democrats are holding a tax reform measure hostage to force the issue.

It’s been less than a week since New York’s Sen. Hillary Clinton and Gov. Eliot Spitzer had to climb down from their support of driver’s licenses for illegal aliens. Now House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has moved to kill an amendment that would protect employers from federal lawsuits for requiring their workers to speak English. Among the employers targeted by such lawsuits: the Salvation Army.

Sen. Lamar Alexander, a moderate Republican from Tennessee, is dumbstruck that legislation he views as simple common sense would be blocked. He noted that the full Senate passed his amendment to shield the Salvation Army by 75-19 last month, and the House followed suit with a 218-186 vote just this month. “I cannot imagine that the framers of the 1964 Civil Rights Act intended to say that it’s discrimination for a shoe shop owner to say to his or her employee, ‘I want you to be able to speak America’s common language on the job,’ ” he told the Senate last Thursday.

But that’s exactly what the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission is trying to do. In March the EEOC sued the Salvation Army because its thrift store in Framingham, Mass., required its employees to speak English on the job. The requirement was clearly posted and employees were given a year to learn the language. The EEOC claimed the store had fired two Hispanic employees for continuing to speak Spanish on the job. It said that the firings violated the law because the English-only policy was not “relevant” to job performance or safety.

“If it is not relevant, it is discriminatory, it is gratuitous, it is a subterfuge to discriminate against people based on national origin,” says Rep. Charles Gonzalez of Texas, one of several Hispanic Democrats in the House who threatened to block Ms. Pelosi’s attempts to curtail the Alternative Minimum Tax unless she killed the Alexander amendment.

The confrontation on the night of Nov. 8 was ugly. Members of the Hispanic Caucus initially voted against the rule allowing debate on a tax bill that included the AMT “patch,” which for a year would protect some 23 million Americans from being kicked into a higher income tax bracket.

Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, a moderate from Maryland, was beside himself. Congressional Quarterly reports that he jabbed his finger on the House floor at Joe Baca, the California Democrat who chairs the Hispanic Caucus, and yelled, “How dare you destroy this party? This will be the worst loss in 10 years.”

Mr. Baca was having none of it. “You see this on the [voting] board?,” he yelled back. “This is against me. This is against me personally.” Luckily for Democrats, C-Span’s microphones did not pick up the exchange. But it was audible to reporters in the press gallery. They also heard Rep. Luis Gutierrez of Illinois say that English-only efforts were symbolic of “bigotry and prejudice” against those who speak other languages.

After testy negotiations, the Hispanic Caucus finally agreed to let the tax bill proceed after extracting a promise from Ms. Pelosi that the House will not vote on the bill funding the Justice and Commerce Departments unless the English-only protection language is dropped. “There ain’t going to be a bill” with the Alexander language, Mr. Baca has told reporters.

Sen. Alexander says that if that’s the case, “thousands of small businesses across America will have to show there is some special reason to justify requiring their employees to speak our country’s common language on the job.He notes that the number of EEOC actions against English-only policies grew to some 200 last year from 32 a decade ago. In an attempt at compromise, he has offered watered-down language that would still allow the EEOC to file many actions, but he says House Democrats rejected it. - Mi Casa, Sue Casa - Nancy Pelosi tries to force the Salvation Army to hire people who can’t speak English, JOHN FUND ON THE TRAIL

This is just another assault on Americans courtesy of Democrats in Congress. The tactic is no different of that of extortionists, with the victim being the American people. Democrats are going to hold your tax breaks until the few representatives in Congress that do actually want to move on both tax relief and immigration reform capitulate to their demands.

 

We should all begin calling her office today and give her the riot act. 

Again you get what you vote in and she is the very worst you can get.

November 20, 2007 09:29 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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CJBL i believe Pelosi should be recalled . a Failure to the American people .

she should be relieve asap . the woman is on a Neo-Nazi death watch.

i'll send this article to my Fl senator B.Nelson and start a whole new issue with him .  The Dems are dead in my book .  




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November 20, 2007 09:45 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Yes you are correct the Dems are dead now in many of the ole' Democratic parties book.  Between Hillary coming out for Drivers Licenses and Barack Obama too and now this - people are catching on who the Dem's really care about and it is NOT American citizens.

They are willing to sell out American citizens in order to control all elections in the future.

I hope the American people across the country are getting a good look at what happens when "hispanics" take over offices all over your state.

The attitude is, well just like the MALDEF leaders:

Mario Obledo (co-founder of MALDEF): California is going to be a Hispanic state and anyone who doesn't like it should leave.

November 20, 2007 09:53 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Nancy Pelosi is discriminating against people who speak English. That is no suprise to me, she wants us to lose the war in Iraq too. She hates America.




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November 20, 2007 09:58 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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To all Grassfire members - I called Nancy's office this morning at 6:57 CA time.  I spoke to a Robert who listened to me rant about how unbelievable this was.

I then left a message for MS Pelosi on the message line that Robert forwarded me to.

Please do the same!  We are mad as hell and we aren't going to take it anymore!

They are in the office today so call before the Thanksgiving Holiday.

 

November 20, 2007 11:01 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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This is the lady that Whoopie Goldberg wants to "do" 
November 20, 2007 11:06 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Why is it racist to want immigrants to learn to speak English?  Is it racist for the French to want their citizens to speak French, or for the Spaniards in Spain to want their citizens to speak Spanish? Same with Portugal and Portugese, Asian Indians to speak Farsi?  I think it goes to far and is asking to much to ask Americans to give up having English as the language of business.
November 20, 2007 11:15 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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CJBL said:

To all Grassfire members - I called Nancy's office this morning at 6:57 CA time.  I spoke to a Robert who listened to me rant about how unbelievable this was.

I then left a message for MS Pelosi on the message line that Robert forwarded me to.

Please do the same!  We are mad as hell and we aren't going to take it anymore!

They are in the office today so call before the Thanksgiving Holiday.

 

 

THANK YOU . I will do the same  . though last time i contacted her office i was told i wasn't in her District ? where as i told them she the Speaker !  what BS  we Americans go thur

 




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November 20, 2007 12:08 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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TENZ 57 - I called the number listed above and reached the main switch board for the capital.  I asked for Nancy Pelosi's office and was connected and then Robert just answered the phone and said Nancy Pelosi's office.

I said I heard something on the news last night and I know it can't be true so I thought I would call and get it from the horse's mouth.  I then begain to ask him all these questions about the EEOC and all the details.  He then said he had "not heard" about this and was very nice and so I took his name after giving him an ear full and then he switched me to the comment recording and I left a lovely message for MS. Pelosi.

He never asked if I was in her district, and I never volunteered.

If you other Grassfire members call - just say it is in regards to the news last night about a bill she is holding onto.

November 20, 2007 12:38 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Mz said:

We are all descended from immigrants that came to America to escape all manner of problems - freedom of religion, poverty, famine, wars, et al. They all seemed to have taken the time and had the intestinal fortitude to realize they were in another country and that English was the language of that country. My grandparents came from Poland and learned to speak and read English. They learned to laws of the land they were adopted by and obeyed those laws. They paid their taxes and were always too proud to take handouts. They took their citizenship tests without the benefit of having the questions dumbed down as to where they are now - one of the questions on the current citizenship test is, "What color is the US flag?" You can check out the rest of the asinine, insipid questions on the US Immigration website.

While they spoke Polish amongst their own nationality, the business of life was conducted in English. And I believe this is the way it was for all European immigrants. They maintained their cultures within their own groups and did not force it on the whole country, nor did they expect special treatment and policies. And if you want to get into profiling, who got more profiling than the Poles and the Italians? We are still the subject of jokes even though the Poles built the largest university in Europe during the middle ages.

Now Pelosi wants special treatment for a group of ILLEGAL aliens. This woman thinks she is the queen of America because at this time, she is the top woman official in Washington. What will she do if Hillary is elected (God help us)? We can only hope we "color her gone" as soon as possible. She is hazardous to our health.

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My wife came here from a foreign country, when she was fifteen. She entered public school and took an Americanization class, which taught English to immigrant students, for three months, before putting them into the mainstream student body.

My wife did just fine, under this system, and florished in high school. She later became a U.S. citizen.

She and members of her family still practice their ethnic culture, at home and during family celebrations, i.e., music, food and customs but are 100% American in their loyalty, their use of English outside the home and their love of this country, which gave them opportunities that they didn't have in the country of their birth.

She and her family have oftened said that if immigrants don't learn the language of this country and choose to stay in their own little ghettoized enclaves that they will be doomed to a life of non achievment and stagnation. Immigrants have to get out and mix with the rest of society, if they want to achieve success. The first step in this process is to learn English so that they can communcate properly.

Politicians, like Pelosi, are actually perpetuating a form of racism by not insisting that English be acknowledged as the official language of this country. In her attempts to appease the illegals and their champions she is advocating that non English speaking people should be allowed to remain incapable of communicating, with the rest of society, thus hindering their chances of succeeding in the country.

 




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