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November 16, 2007 12:57 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated November 19, 2007 06:53 PM

It was reported on KFI 640 AM Los Angeles that there will be a hearing on the Ramos & Compean imprisonment.  Newly release documents that were formerly sealed, and kept from the jury by Johnny Sutton, indicate Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila made subsequent drug runs into the United States after being shot.  This information was kept from the jury during the trial of Ramos and Compean, and would most probably have exonerated them.

Unfortunately there are no transcripts of the interview with the father-in-law of Ramos today that were available.  If anyone can find the particulars on this could you please post them?


Addendum:

For additional information on the hearing see: http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/19577/Ramos-and-Compean-Hearing-Scheduled-for-Dec-3/




We don't need new "comprehensive" immigration laws. We need widespread, well funded enforcement of existing immigration law, i. e. IRCA 1986. http://www.oig.lsc.gov/legis/irca86.htm ANYTHING ELSE IS JUST A BIG CHARADE! Remember the Alamo AND Agents Compean, Ramos, Brugman, Sipe, Rhodes, Deputy Sheriff Hernandez, K-9 Officer Mohr & Noe Aleman. ***Redress it all by repealing the 17th Amendment to the U. S. Constitution: http://www.articlev.com/repeal_the_17...
November 16, 2007 01:48 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Alleged smuggler shot by BP agents arrested on smuggling charges

Posted: Nov 15, 2007 04:32 PM MST

EL PASO - The man at the center of a case that ultimately sent two Border Patrol agents to prison has been indicted and arrested on a drug smuggling charge, U.S. Attorney Jimmy Sutton said.

Agents with the Drug Enforcement Administration arrested Osvaldo Aldrete Davila at the Ysleta Port of Entry on an earlier indictment of conspiracy to possess and distribute marijuana and with possession with intent to distribute marijuana.

Officials identify Davila as the suspect whom former Border Patrol agents Jose Compean and Ignacio Ramos shot while he fled across the border into Mexico.

The agents shot him in the buttocks as he fled, but got rid of crucial evidence and failed to report the incident as required.

Ramos and Compean are serving 11- and 12-year federal prison sentences, respectively.

They later found a load of marijuana in a van that Aldrete had used to try to elude them.

At the time, Sutton said there was no proof to tie the drugs to Aldrete so he could not prosecute him. Sutton said he worked to secure the indictment against Davila using new evidence from the DEA.

TO BAD THEY CAN'T GET SUTTON FOR SOMETHING!!!!!!!!




November 16, 2007 02:36 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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p. hunt said:
Alleged smuggler shot by BP agents arrested on smuggling charges

Posted: Nov 15, 2007 04:32 PM MST

EL PASO - The man at the center of a case that ultimately sent two Border Patrol agents to prison has been indicted and arrested on a drug smuggling charge, U.S. Attorney Jimmy Sutton said.

Agents with the Drug Enforcement Administration arrested Osvaldo Aldrete Davila at the Ysleta Port of Entry on an earlier indictment of conspiracy to possess and distribute marijuana and with possession with intent to distribute marijuana.

Officials identify Davila as the suspect whom former Border Patrol agents Jose Compean and Ignacio Ramos shot while he fled across the border into Mexico.

The agents shot him in the buttocks as he fled, but got rid of crucial evidence and failed to report the incident as required.

Ramos and Compean are serving 11- and 12-year federal prison sentences, respectively.

They later found a load of marijuana in a van that Aldrete had used to try to elude them.

At the time, Sutton said there was no proof to tie the drugs to Aldrete so he could not prosecute him. Sutton said he worked to secure the indictment against Davila using new evidence from the DEA.

TO BAD THEY CAN'T GET SUTTON FOR SOMETHING!!!!!!!!

 

They can go after him for prosecutorial misconduct, or something like that.  He could lose his license and job, but I don't think they could get him for a crime.


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November 16, 2007 09:06 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated November 17, 2007 06:03 AM

Dobbs said it on his show last night , that he's been arrested Again !

FWIW , they can stick Sutton and his team of Commie under a cold cold rock.

good luck to Ramos and Compean . i feel safe in saying . If they where not working in Suttons area no evidence would have been covered up . Sutton is a Terroist to the Border Patrol agents . on the Mexican take or just plain a Commie . Makes little diffence to me if you don't DEFEND your own !




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November 16, 2007 09:24 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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What I want to know is where is Texas two sorry assed Senators on this issue they are both awol. Johnny Sutton worked for Cornpone when he was attorney general of texas this may explain his absence on the issue. Hutchison forget it gone.


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November 16, 2007 11:17 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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How is Sutton going to talk his way out of this one, or is anyone even going to ask him to defend or justify his (in)actions!


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November 16, 2007 11:31 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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All I can say is that I surely hope that Ramos and Compean get Pardoned once and for all.

tencz said what I said on another thread and I agree. I think Sutton is a terrorist for sure. I'd love to see the hammer fall on him. What a box he now has himself in, or is someone going to get him out of it? I won't mention any names......grrrrrrrrrr




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November 16, 2007 02:27 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated November 16, 2007 02:30 PM
Friday, November 16, 2007 8:46 AM PST

Inside Patroling The US & Mexico Border
WKRN Nashville Thu, 15 Nov 2007 9:02 PM PST
Wednesday night News 2 introduced you to a Tennessee man who journeys to the US and Mexico border to patrol for illegal immigrants. |   | Bob Brown said, “I need to do something.  I need to make up for what other people aren’t doing.” | | So Brown left his home in Burns, Tennessee to volunteer on the Texas/ Mexico border to watch for illegal immigrants. | | ...

USA: Amnesty International calls for inquiry into force used by the US Border Patrol against 'No Border Camps' ...
Amnesty International Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:02 AM PST
Amnesty International (AI) has called for a full investigation of allegations of excessive force by the United States Border Patrol (BP) in dispersing a protest organized by the group 'No Border Camps' at the US border with Mexico in Calexico, California, on 11 November.

Now, if the above article isn't enough to make you angry, I don't know what would.




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November 16, 2007 03:03 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I hope Ramos and Compean are RELEASED before Christmas. Is there someone OVER Sutton's head that we could all write and call to tell them we find their conduct BEYOND TREASON with regard to the treatment of Ramos and Compean? I want these jerks to be POUNDED with phone calls and emails by WE THE PEOPLE!

Excessive force my BUTT! It is OUR country! And to top it all off...today in the USA TODAY they had an article about giving drivers license to illegals here in the States. If you as an American were to have to live in Mexico- you must PROVE citizenship as a Mexican or - NO DRIVER'S LICENSE!

 




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November 16, 2007 03:58 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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(CM) BiotechBabe said:

Is there someone OVER Sutton's head that we could all write and call to tell them we find their conduct BEYOND TREASON with regard to the treatment of Ramos and Compean?

 

 

Jorge W. Busch




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November 16, 2007 08:56 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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November 16, 2007 10:24 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Release Ramos & Compean asap. Put Sutton & A. Gonzales in same cells & prisons as Ramos & Compean  were in for the same number of years. Bush may not be able to cover this one up !
November 17, 2007 12:57 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA, BUT BUSH AND ALL HIS COHORTS SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE SENTENCING!!!

 
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November 17, 2007 03:58 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated November 17, 2007 04:02 AM

I haven't voiced my opinion here in a long time but my feelings remain the same. I feel Border Patrol Agents Ramon and Compean were wrongfully convicted and are in prison for simply doing their jobs. I felt this way then and my feelings haven't changed that they should be exonerated and released from prison. They have already suffered too much and missed time with their families and that is a travesty of justice. They deserve better than being pardoned, they deserve to be exonerated and this  conviction should be overturned.

Tandy hp

November 17, 2007 09:39 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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This was done to Intimidate the Border Patorl and Anyone else that might try to enforce American laws.

It is a sad day in America when we allow our Government to destroy our Nation, and allow a President to become a dictator. 

The people at the top MUST HEAR AMERICANS SOON!!!




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November 17, 2007 02:40 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Laura Ingraham: Tara, wasn't there some incident where a DHS official or officials briefed members of Congress and said something like the agents got up in the morning and said oh we feel like shooting a Mexican today and it turned out to be totally fabricated to members of Congress?
Tara Setmayer (Comm. Dir. For Rep. Dana Rohrabacher): That's correct. Actually Homeland Security Inspector General Richard Skinner has gotten a free pass on this for the most part because all of the focus has been on Johnny Sutton. But Richard Skinner's office ­ they're actually the most culpable. They're the ones who are responsible for the investigation in the first place. Christopher Sanchez, the Homeland Security Inspector General investigator who went into Mexico, looked for Davila ­ he's the one who delivered this immunity ­ the flawed immunity agreement that no one seems to know the kind of immunity agreement it was.
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November 17, 2007 05:37 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Someone was belly aching about the two Texas Senators....and you are right!   They are completely worthless!   Hutchison doesn't lie as smooooothly as Cornyn, so she's got everyone's attention the most....for being worthless!

Last Satuarday hotshot Rep. Culberson was in Houston....had a big meeting in town.  Culberson's on TV a lot w/ Ted Poe from Houston and Dana Rorbacher from CA.   They are definitely good Joes and carrying the flag for us. 

At last Saturday's meeting Culberson mentioned Hutchison twice and met w/ a whole audience of boos.....which tickled me to death.   Means they definitely have her number!   Wonder if it surprised Culberson?  You know, you don't know what your people think unless you habla w/ them.  (: 

 

 

November 19, 2007 12:15 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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LETS FACE IT THAT SUCKER, BUSH, WILL NOT LET ANYONE TELL HIM WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. LOOK AT HIS HISTORY!!

Agents' pardon urged of Bush

By Sara A. Carter
November 19, 2007

Top conservatives have joined ranking House leaders in their bid to pressure the president to pardon two Border Patrol agents imprisoned for the nonfatal shooting of a Mexican drug smuggler in El Paso, Texas, in 2005.


In a letter that was delivered today to the White House, 31 major conservative petitioners joined a campaign led by Rep. Duncan Hunter, California Republican and presidential candidate, asking President Bush to pardon Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean before Thanksgiving.


The letter comes on the heels of the arrest of admitted drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila on charges of trafficking marijuana while he was profiting from the federal immunity deal as the star witness in the shooting case against the agents.


"History has proven that the mere words and deeds of a president can change the course of history and profoundly affect both the tone and direction of the nation's moral character for generations to come," said the letter signed by 31 petitioners, mostly from Christian conservative groups and national-security organizations.




November 19, 2007 03:44 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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My question is this:

How can "Jorgie-Porgie boy" pardon a fricking turkey for Thanksgiving (and it will be carried by all the media outlets!) but not extend the same to Ramos and Compean? What's wrong with that bloody picture? Yell

November 20, 2007 12:26 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Glenn Beck had a segment on the Ramos-Campean appeal tonight.  A lady from Congressman Rohrbacker's(sp) office was on.  She said this goes all the way to the White House.

There is a report that ties to this on www.arkansasfreedom.com that will just knock your socks off.  It is quite lengthy.  Title : Prosecutorial persecution

He says "I was informed by a federal prosecutor a number of years ago, this during Bush’s regime, Federal Prosecutors were banned from taking any prosecutorial action unless it came straight from Washington.   "
 


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