Data and information needed, please respond

To my FS community: I've been playing devils advocate on some of the immigration propaganda sites, on these site I find an ungoddly number of people who demonstrate a level of blindered thinking that is simply astounding.

 I thought that a few of our friends here lived in a cave (no offence, I love you all) oh far from it, the extremist left brainwashing is simply amazing. 

Those of us (myself included) who may live in a cave and not get all the info out there are far more informed.

Ostreches with their head in the sand is a good annalogy for these folks,denieing anything that dosn't go with their line of thinking, and a propensity to call anyone a racist if they don't agree.

My intention is to gather info sites on the verified stats and figures pertaining to the negitive influence on this country of the mass illegal immigration.

Flood the pro immigration forum sites with as much confirmed data as possible, maybe I can save a few brains from being washed???

I need FS members to e-mail me links to any sites that give confirmed data on the immigration issue, not patriotic speeches or points of view, hard data.

If there is a place on this site that has it already point me to it.

If you realy want a peacfull revolution, join me in waging an information war with undisputable evidence in their face.

Hope y'all kept that powder dry, its time to start a shootin (figurativly)

one more thing:Please chime in if your willing to take this on. It gets a little disscouraging when one thinks their alone.

Thanks and Gods speed  

Go to NumbersUSA for a start.  I think they have data there.  And here's another site I found:

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/

If you search 'illegal immigration data', you'll find a few sites.

Good luck!

What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?

• In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico, it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems, bankrupted hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner, safer and less congested.  Everyone could understand one another as English became the dominate language again.
• In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and grand-kids – would move back "home," mostly to Mexico.   That would save Coloradans an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 BIL) annually in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration costs.  It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone. 
• Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens.  Denver Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered death, accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals.    
• Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67 percent drop out/flunk out rate via thousands of illegal alien students speaking 41 different languages.  At least 200,000 vehicles would vanish from our gridlocked cities in Colorado.  Denver's four percent unemployment rate would vanish as our working poor would gain jobs at a living wage.
• In Florida, 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State back to America, the rule of law and English.
• In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals, schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free experience.

Paste these on the sites where they say "their just hardworking people, who are here for jobs"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIW-BZ8oLrk&eurl=<a%20href=

Message from California Democratic Party Chairman Art Torres:

The last gasp of white America understand that, and people say to me on the Senate floor, when I was in the Senate - why do you fight so hard for affirmative action programs, and I tell my white colleagues, because you are going to need them.

Mayor Antonio Villaragosia:  "It is not enough to elect Latino Leadership, if their supporting legislation that denies the  undocumented they don't belong in office friend, they don't belong here"

Updated: Nov 2, 2007 09:40 PM PDT

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Thanks folks, I asked for e-mails due to my browser not liking to let me cut and paste, I'll hard copy this tonight and start bright and early tomarrow.

Keep it comming 

Here is some food for thought: 

I wonder why the Mexican citizens don't have compassion for their own people? 

Can you imagine if Mobil Oil and Chevron Oil and all the other US oil companies were owned by the US Government and yet they kept the money in the hands of a few top families and pushed the balance of the "poor" over the border into Mexico illegally?

Can you imagine with all this oil money if the President of the USA then went on a tour throughout Mexico saying the Mexican people were full of hate and racists because they did not allow the Poor Americans to flood their country and expect the Mexican citizens to pay for their health care and education?

Can you imagine with all this oil money if the President of the USA then expected the #2 GDP for the country to come back from the "poor" pushed over the border into Mexico as remittances?

I would love to mix thoughts with the enemy. Any sites I should start with. I know where to find the facts.

My powder is dry, and ready for use. 

After mixing it up with some folks on www.Hispanicbusiness.com I was banned by one of their moderators

If any one would please go and read the threads "minutemen labeled "gangs" and the towering achievment of  "Rantings of unAmerican AKA Tarkus" I guess I pissed her off???

She did challenge me for info and then promptly banned me.

Would any of my fellow PATRIOTS like to answer her challenge??? 

Tarkus said:

After mixing it up with some folks on www.Hispanicbusiness.com I was banned by one of their moderators

If any one would please go and read the threads "minutemen labeled "gangs" and the towering achievment of  "Rantings of unAmerican AKA Tarkus" I guess I pissed her off???

She did challenge me for info and then promptly banned me.

Would any of my fellow PATRIOTS like to answer her challenge??? 

thats ok TarKus . i'm banded from the FSU Crimonole football board . just cause i'm a gator . i'm sorry Tar but today on FS has been a real bummer . just bad news after bad news against our country . i needed to be a smart azz for a second .

i'll try and get you some government infor in facts with data .  

Tarkus said:

one more thing:Please chime in if your willing to take this on. It gets a little disscouraging when one thinks their alone.

Thanks and Gods speed  

You are NEVER alone Tarkus! You have all of us! Ask and Ye shall receive....

 How about if we post the links here so you are not buried in email?

Tarkas, This was an e-mail to me so I had to copy and paste.  I know you want to get these in an e-mail, so if you PM me and give me your e-mail, I'll forward it directly to you. 

I live in the U.S., why in the hell do I have to press "1" for English?
Unless..........pressing "2" results in an immediate deportation!!
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 WOW, NEXT THING WILL BE AN INCREASE TO OUR INCOME TAX.

 I'm closing our account!

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 Bank of America, can I help you?  

Customer: Yes, I want to cancel my account. I don't want to do business with you any longer.

The Bank: Why?

Customer: You're giving credit to illegal immigrants and I don't think it's right. I'm taking  my business elsewhere.

The Bank: Well, Mr. Customer, we don't want to see you do that, but we can't stop you. I'll help you close the account. What is your account number?

Customer: (gives account number)

The Bank: For security purposes and for your protection, can you please give me the last four digits of your social security number?

Customer: No?

The Bank: Mr. Customer, I need to verify your information, but in order to help you, I'll need verification of who you are.

Customer: Why should I give you my social security number? The reason I'm closing my account is that your bank is issuing credit cards to illegal immigrants who don't have social security numbers. You are targeting that audience and want their business. Let's say I'm an illegal immigrant and you've given me a credit card. I have a question about it and call for assistance. You wouldn't be asking me for a Social Security number, would you?

The Bank: No sir, I wouldn't.

Customer: Why not?

The Bank: Because you would have pressed '2' to speak in Spanish. We don't ask for that information when calling in on the Spanish line.

I provided "snopes" for doubters: http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp

Now .

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are
caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.h... face="Arial" size="4" color="#000000">

14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ".
http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whooping .

$ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR

If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message, but on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, then forward it to every human in the country including every representative in Washington , DC four time a week for a month