Pat Robertson endorses Giuliani?

 

 I heard this this morning on Fox News.

What is going on with the conservative right???

If this is true, how could Robertson team with a suspected CFR member? Robertson has been known to be very anti-NWO!!! 

Is Giuliani a member of the CFR? Anybody? 

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Wow... as a long time supporter of Pat Roberson, CBN, and an ex-employee of CBN, this surprises me.

Here's a link to the actual story

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I cannot understand how Robertson can reconcile the personal character and actions of Guiliani with his own teachings.  Guiliani's stated political belief's and goals are certainly not in line with a conservative's.  I evaluate people by their historical actions and stated beliefs.  Guiliani has demonstrated and stated the direction our country will assume with his presidency. 

A centered man has truth within himself.  He does not need another to tell him what is right.  And when others attempt to direct him from his known truths they are not successful.  Every man has his own perceptions, knowledge and weaknesses.  I trust in God; not in man.  I will not allow another to direct me from the truths I have learned. 

Our country will go forward with the will of the people.  Whether the masses prove to be wise or ignorant will be decided in the future.  We are not masters of our own destiny if we depend on our government to do the right things.  I will strive to be as independent as possible but the greater the size and power of the government the less independence we all have.

 

God bless our troops, America and Americans. 

 

The man must be losing his faith and pulling out all the stops to what he believes is the only way we will keep Hillary out of the White House.  It is the only possible explanation I can come up with.  Disappointing, for sure.

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This is a strange surprise more than anything else, and yes, Giuliani is a member of the CFR, and he is connected with a company that will construct the NAFTA highway project in Texas.

Upon leaving office, he founded the consulting firm, Giuliani Partners, which advises clients such as Mexico City on security and crime reduction. In 2005, Giuliani also added his name to what is now Bracewell & Giuliani law firm, known for representing the oil industry and financial sector, and for its handling of cases related to homeland security and energy policy. Giuliani has been a steadfast supporter of the Iraq war and the troop surge.

 

http://www.cfr.org/bios/10534/rudy_giuliani.html 

Looks like Robertson threw his values under the bus for Giuliani on this one.  I guess he couldn't stand the thought of voting for a Mormon, but what about Fred?  Not religious enough?

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I've always thought Robertson, Falwell, and all the other "televangelists" were a little off their rockers anyway.  I wouldn't lend a dime's worth of credence to anything any of them say about anything.

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Patsy said: I've always thought Robertson, Falwell, and all the other "televangelists" were a little off their rockers anyway.  I wouldn't lend a dime's worth of credence to anything any of them say about anything.

 

But their "followers", whether they can afford it or not, are the ones who make them millionaires - and DO FOLLOW when it comes to voting, too!  Sigh...................

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Kaksdesign said:

This is a strange surprise more than anything else, and yes, Giuliani is a member of the CFR, and he is connected with a company that will construct the NAFTA highway project in Texas.

Upon leaving office, he founded the consulting firm, Giuliani Partners, which advises clients such as Mexico City on security and crime reduction. In 2005, Giuliani also added his name to what is now Bracewell & Giuliani law firm, known for representing the oil industry and financial sector, and for its handling of cases related to homeland security and energy policy. Giuliani has been a steadfast supporter of the Iraq war and the troop surge.

 

http://www.cfr.org/bios/10534/rudy_giuliani.html 

 

This link does not prove that Giuliani is a card carrying CFR'er...  All cadidates have a bios link there.

I'd like some concrete evidence that Giuliani is aligned with the CFR before I start sending emails and Letters to the Editor!!!

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To say Robertson is "off his rocker" misses the significance of the event. Robertson's endorsement does matter here in the real political world and here's how:

1. It's a blow to Romney who intensely courted Robertson's endorsement and even spoke at Robertson's university's commencement this May -- which sparked some controversy of its own.

2. It's a blow to the Dobson coalition and the threats of boycotting the GOP if Giuliani gets elected. Robertson's decision is a counterbalance to that.

3. it's another sign that the social/Christian conservatives may not be all that relevant in this election because it is not clear whether this group will be able to unite in significant numbers to even play a spoiler.

4. It also may be a signal that many Christian voters may be willing to vote for a less-than-ideal candidate, whether it be Giuliani or another. 

5. As always, we must ask the timing question. Why now? Who is moving in the polls? Ahhhh, that nemesis McCain showed up #2 on recent USA Today poll.

 This is not an endorsement of Robertson's endorsement -- just musings on why and why now?

 

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But their "followers", whether they can afford it or not, are the ones who make them millionaires - and DO FOLLOW when it comes to voting, too!  Sigh...................

That's very true.  My aunt, in her last months gave away every dime of the fortune my uncle left her to one of nutjob televangelists.  I've wondered if it "bought" her a special place in heaven, or just an extra big "SUCKER!" nametag.

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I disagree, Steve.  I think it was pretty obvious Romney was NEVER going to get an endorsement from the so-called "christian" right.  Dobson I put in the same class with Falwell, Robertson, etc.  Preachers should stay in the pulpit and keep their political opinions to themselves.  I don't care to hear what they think of a candidate anymore than I want to hear who some Hollyweird "star" endorses.  And I don't have a very high opinion of anyone who feels the need to be guided by, or to follow, what their preacher or teacher or favorite star, etc. thinks re. voting.  "Christian conservatives", Hollyweird liberals, whatever.  In other words, I could only say to any of them, "That's nice to hear you're endorsing so and so...but so what?"  It doesn't affect who I'll support or not support.

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Patsy said: I disagree, Steve.  I think it was pretty obvious Romney was NEVER going to get an endorsement from the so-called "christian" right.  Dobson I put in the same class with Falwell, Robertson, etc.  Preachers should stay in the pulpit and keep their political opinions to themselves.  I don't care to hear what they think of a candidate anymore than I want to hear who some Hollyweird "star" endorses.  And I don't have a very high opinion of anyone who feels the need to be guided by, or to follow, what their preacher or teacher or favorite star, etc. thinks re. voting.  "Christian conservatives", Hollyweird liberals, whatever.  In other words, I could only say to any of them, "That's nice to hear you're endorsing so and so...but so what?"  It doesn't affect who I'll support or not support.

 

I understand what you're saying Patsy and I agree...Unfortunately there are literally millions of voters out there who, like your aunt, hang on every word of their pastors, favorite actors, etc.

Sad..but true.....

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I understand what you're saying Patsy and I agree...Unfortunately there are literally millions of voters out there who, like your aunt, hang on every word of their pastors, favorite actors, etc.

Sad..but true.....

Very sad and all too true.  But, there are people who eat yogurt too.  No judging for some peoples taste!  

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The endorsement can be summed up in one crucial word for social conservatives who sense the kill after the decades long strugle to reshape the Federal & Supreme Courts.  Look at those like Ted Olsen who are affiliated with Guiliani from the legal side of the equation for the reason. 

JUDGES.....

SovereignMan

SovereignMan said:

The endorsement can be summed up in one crucial word for social conservatives who sense the kill after the decades long strugle to reshape the Federal & Supreme Courts.  Look at those like Ted Olsen who are affiliated with Guiliani from the legal side of the equation for the reason. 

JUDGES.....

SovereignMan

Reports of your demise from FS have been greatly exaggerated, SM!!

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sean said sovereignman was banned. thats the only report of it i saw. how can it be exaggerated if sean said it? i m confused but then that happens to me a lot.

For years while I was working, I sent money to the 700 Club.  I haven't for the past 8 years because first I had my grandkids to tend to and was poor and now - living on SS - I'm just broke.

I am going to send Pat a very detailed letter though to express my chagrin at his action.  The very fact of Giuliani's stance on abortion should have distanced Pat from the man.  That is not even acknowledging Giuliani's association with getting the NAFTA highway built and working with the UN and approving Bush's SPP sell out of this country.  This idea is just too much and Pat will hear from me on it in no uncertain terms!  He heard from me when he had Romney at the commencement and he's in for much more now!

 

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hrm14 said:

sean said sovereignman was banned. thats the only report of it i saw. how can it be exaggerated if sean said it? i m confused but then that happens to me a lot.

You've never heard of Mark Twain?

"The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."

Mark Twain quotation after hearing that his obituary had been published in the New York Journal.  Very famous.

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hrm14, he has been unbanned.  It happens.

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