Again - I bring this up as it appears now more than ever - the rules of the FS forum are not being adhered to. MANY posts are being deleted while others that CLEARLY break the forum rules remain. Moderators appear to be joining in on the rule breaking. People are leaving FS because of the constant back and forth of a small select few who really only troll and post very little in terms of support for their candidate OR facts surrounding issues. I came here to learn about the issues and the candidates running in 08...
It is MORE than obvious there is a strong backing of two particular candidates on this site - and am appalled that many continually throw personal attacks on supporters of one of those TWO candidates.
It seems since one member posted a 'poll' on this site - and now many do not like the results - they have ratched up their attacks. Enough, folks.
"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. The loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or imagined, from abroad." -- James Madison
Mods are afraid to take on "FredHeads" that break forum rules because they will claim it's a RonBot conspiracy against them and that FireSociety should be renamed "RonBotSociety." Mods are afraid to take on Ron Paul supporters that break forum rules because it would seem like a double standard given that there are much more Ron Paul supporters than there are Fred Thompson supporters. What I ask is for rules to be enforced equally. Mods, if a rule is broken, call out that forum member; do your job. Quite frankly, I have found reprehensible behavior from both sides. I understand that mods do not want to get in between two conflicting sides, but if they are unwilling to do just that, then they should not be mods.
The forum rules are also problematic, given that they are too general, which leaves mods unsure about when to take action. Sean has stated that he will enhance the forum rules to be more specific; I hope he gets to that.
-Dom
-What is essential in war is victory, not prolonged operations. -Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win. -There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare. -quotes from the Art of War by Sun Tzu, 6th century BC Chinese General and war strategist.
Dom, That is my point EXACTLY - rules are not enforced uniformly. Some mods delete posts that are off topic - or they are deleted b/c one feels that it may not 'jive' with the thread starter's reason for starting the thread (even if the topic is the same as the title)...
Someone mentioned Sovereign Man, Ms. Bobbie, Ronpaul08 or levot as being mods.... Dom, you would also make a good mods - as balancing it out is paramount to ensure fairness.
The rules are general - however, it is clear that trolling is not allowed - which in fact...is it allowed.
"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. The loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or imagined, from abroad." -- James Madison
The Ron Paul Moderator thread is gone. I did it. Why? Because of all the B.S. that is going on. I never ever threatened anyone on here. BTB is attacked, SP, O2CAV and all the Moderators as well. O2 can't even reply to his own thread that he made up because even when he isn't there, you all nail him and anyone that doesn't support Ron Paul.
I am not a mean person and sometimes fall for your trolling methods as in what we call Baiting. I get emails from people showing their a** all the time. I am attacked wherever I go. Why? Because I don't supoort Ron Paulie.
It's ok though. But I will tell you one thing. If these threads don't tone down I will keep deleting them. This Website is ment for good conversation and I don't see that anywhere in the RP threads. I do see it everywhere else and I surely won't share what sites I see with any Ron Paul Supporter because you JUST CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!! as Jack Nicholson said in his film.
I can't even make a little joke without being nailed from at least three people on a RP thread. I get attacked. So, what is fair? Us attacking you? Or you attacking us and this goes out to everyone who is at fault.
There will be no more attacking. Politics can get very heated, but please remember. This Website was created first from Grassfire.org and thus here we are with what I thought was a common ground for these illegal aliens and getting Congress to look at this hard. We accomplished that. Why> Numbers is why.We banned together for that one common cause. Now the polls are heating up and if you think we at Fire Society are trying to blast Ron Paul from the polls are nutzo. DC are the ones's to blame. They do it to Tancredo, Hunter, Thompson, Ron Paul, Huckabee, etc. MSM does not give them the air time because they are really told what to do by the elitists.
Now you know the truth, but I doubt you would know the truth if it were staring you in the eyes. Just think about that ok? Let's stop the bickering and play nice once again please. Take the funny things and let it go, laugh, have a good time. Why be angry all the time is my question? Sleep on it before you reply ok?
Thanks and good night to all on here.
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FredHead, DeadHead, RonBot, Robot, or whatever your candidate of choice is; you have nothing to fear as long as you play in a civil and adult manner. Domenico- I've ticked off a former Fred head that's no longer here; and he went ballistic. We are human just like you and are doing what we are supposed to to the best of our ability.
Alabama born and bred. Where we "Dare Defend our Rights!"
Almost all my emails and faxes through Grassfire have been in support of Grassfire's stand against illegal immigration and for enforcement of laws, along with where's the fence and getting the borders and coasts secured, especially in this time of war. I have also supported Grassfires's stand against SPP.
I see only three candidates who are in line with most of Grassfire's stands honestly, and of record. Grassfire, with NumbersUSA, and a few others offered the massive campaigns of faxes, calls, and emails which helped defeat the amnesty and other liberal/RINO anti-American legislative attempts. We need to keep our heads together, because sneaky attempts are contantly being made, even at blocking various local and national grassfire type efforts. The hardest to deal with are the Presidential orders like Clinton's to pay free health care for illegals, or the legislating from the bench of mis-interpretation of the 14th Amendment to the eminent domain property rights losses.
We can barely blink or get a night of rest, without more attacks on our liberty and sovereignty, with lying and PCism running amok. I look at Grassfire as a weapon of good, for the America of now and the future. Disinformation, stubborness, name calling and rambling repetetiveness are counter productive.
With every action and decision think of the consequences 7 generations from now----Ute Rule of Life
Deerhunter, you have a fabulous way of cutting through the crap!! Thank you!! I think you've said what many are thinking. Some apparently are under the impression this is the Ron Paul Admiration Society and if you don't worship at the altar, you're a heathen, a hypocrite, a traitor, a neocon, a CFR drone, against the constitution, etc. If they think they are winning over any support for the old man, they are in a rude awakening in just a couple of months! (Now watch.....I'll be labeled a troll again and a moderator suck up!!) Delete if you must, fine with me.
"A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders." Larry Elder
Patsy said: Deerhunter, you have a fabulous way of cutting through the crap!! Thank you!! I think you've said what many are thinking. Some apparently are under the impression this is the Ron Paul Admiration Society and if you don't worship at the altar, you're a heathen, a hypocrite, a traitor, a neocon, a CFR drone, against the constitution, etc. If they think they are winning over any support for the old man, they are in a rude awakening in just a couple of months! (Now watch.....I'll be labeled a troll again and a moderator suck up!!) Delete if you must, fine with me.
Patsy I think that part of this endeavor can be a Ron Paul Admiration Society and a Hunter AS, and a Romney AS, and a Huckabee and a Tancredo. That's not the problem. Being anti Ron Paul and anti any candidate is the problem if the anti person goes to attack all the other candidates.
I am not referring to anyone in particular especially not you Patsy. I'm just saying we should have 10 different interesting conversations going on instead of 10 brawls. I'm not accusing anyone of anything now because that is all in the past and will not be tolerated in the future by anyone.
"Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams
I am not referring to anyone in particular especially not you Patsy. I'm just saying we should have 10 different interesting conversations going on instead of 10 brawls. I'm not accusing anyone of anything now because that is all in the past and will not be tolerated in the future by anyone.
Well, SP, that would be swell and could be done if the children just let the adults have a decent conversation, agreeing or not!
"A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders." Larry Elder
Shortie, I deleted your post as there wasn't anything in it. If you put a text in it, it didn't show. Please repost what you wanted to say.
Thank you
About Me: Keep The 2nd. Ammendment Alive At All Cost!! God gave us this right through man. Florida Constitution Article I, Section 8(a) The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed, except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law.
Again - I bring this up as it appears now more than ever - the rules of the FS forum are not being adhered to. MANY posts are being deleted while others that CLEARLY break the forum rules remain. Moderators appear to be joining in on the rule breaking. People are leaving FS because of the constant back and forth of a small select few who really only troll and post very little in terms of support for their candidate OR facts surrounding issues. I came here to learn about the issues and the candidates running in 08...
It is MORE than obvious there is a strong backing of two particular candidates on this site - and am appalled that many continually throw personal attacks on supporters of one of those TWO candidates.
It seems since one member posted a 'poll' on this site - and now many do not like the results - they have ratched up their attacks. Enough, folks.
Congratulations on stating the facts as they truly are... As far as people leaving FS - yes the people are leaving... With as many members as there are here, not many people will post because they are under attack...
Then why are you looking at me that way dressed in purple? Oh yes to be on topic rule 1.
The rule of this forum is"Give Back - Don't forget to thank those that help you, and reach out to others in the community by helping to answer questions and sharing your experiences." That's the Red Hat Society, SP!! Red hats, purple coats. The Red Hat Society Official Website And how else could I possibly look at you?
"A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders." Larry Elder
Thanks for your innput Shortie. It's appreciated very much.
About Me: Keep The 2nd. Ammendment Alive At All Cost!! God gave us this right through man. Florida Constitution Article I, Section 8(a) The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed, except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law.