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October 31, 2007 06:31 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Rep. Shuler to Introduce Enforcement-Only Bill Soon (October 31) A new immigration enforcement bill that would remove the jobs magnet for illegal immigration is expected to be introduced in the House very soon. The SAVE Act (Secure America with Verification Enforcement) will be sponsored by Rep. Heath Shuler (D-N.C.) and is expected to have bi-partisan support. NumbersUSA believes this bill originating on the Democratic side of the House is just the vehicle to give us a chance to actually pass immigration legislation through a Democratic-controlled Congress that would significantly improve the lives of most Americans. Specifically, The SAVE Act would eventually require every employee in America to go through the E-Verify system, identifying all illegal aliens and removing any "glitches" that once allowed them to pass through the system and into the workforce undetected. Click here for more information about the SAVE Act. AgJOBS Amnesty Vote May Be Forthcoming Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has announced that the Farm Bill Extension Act of 2007 (H.R. 2419) is likely to come up for debate on the Senate floor during the week of November 5. Recently, Leader Reid had promised to attempt to attach the AgJOBS amnesty for illegal farmworkers to the farm bill during floor consideration. Despite the pleas of some open borders senators to forgo debate of additional amnesties this year, it appears another major Senate battle may be in the works. CongressDaily is reporting that Senate Agriculture Committee Chairman Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) will "resist" efforts to add AgJOBS to the farm bill... Click here for more information on AgJOBS and actions you can take now to prevent this bill from coming to a vote next week. Call your senators to urge them to oppose an AgJOBS amnesty amendment on the farm bill: 202-224-3121. VICTORY: Cloture Vote On DREAM Act Amnesty Fails On October 24th, the Senate failed to obtain cloture on the DREAM Act amnesty (S. 2205) by a 52-44 vote, for which 60 YES votes were needed to prevent a filibuster. Majority Leader Reid and Assistant Majority Leader Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) failed in their attempt to bring this nightmarish amnesty bill to the floor under Senate Rule XIV without it ever having been debated in committee... Click here for more information on the failed DREAM Act and to see how Senators voted.


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October 31, 2007 06:38 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Odd that we need a bill to enforce bills we already have, huh?


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October 31, 2007 06:57 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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The Senate has wasted so much time trying to cram amnesty down our throats that they haven't gotten any bills to the President to sign.  This just goes to show that they care more about illegal aliens than they do the American citizens.  They should be doing the work of the American people and letting law enforment enforce the laws already on the books.  But they just keep coming at us with more crap.  I guess the next volley will be in the form of AgJobs.  It is still amnesty.  They can call it anything Diane Feinstein wants but if walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is indeed a duck.
November 8, 2007 12:25 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Saw this interview last night with Schuler and another senator (opposite party) and they now have 90 co-sponsors, 45 Repubs and 45 Dems, and they anticipate even more to sign on.

The Bill number is H.R. 4088.  Call your rep if they aren't a co-sponsor and encourage them to sign on!!  This is one that really needs our full support.

Here are the co-sponsors:

COSPONSORS(89), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]:     (Sort: by date)

Rep Alexander, Rodney [LA-5] - 11/6/2007 Rep Altmire, Jason [PA-4] - 11/6/2007
Rep Arcuri, Michael A. [NY-24] - 11/6/2007 Rep Baird, Brian [WA-3] - 11/6/2007
Rep Barrett, J. Gresham [SC-3] - 11/6/2007 Rep Barrow, John [GA-12] - 11/6/2007
Rep Bean, Melissa L. [IL-8] - 11/6/2007 Rep Berry, Marion [AR-1] - 11/6/2007
Rep Bilbray, Brian P. [CA-50] - 11/6/2007 Rep Bishop, Sanford D., Jr. [GA-2] - 11/6/2007
Rep Blackburn, Marsha [TN-7] - 11/6/2007 Rep Boozman, John [AR-3] - 11/6/2007
Rep Boren, Dan [OK-2] - 11/6/2007 Rep Boswell, Leonard L. [IA-3] - 11/6/2007
Rep Boucher, Rick [VA-9] - 11/6/2007 Rep Boyd, Allen [FL-2] - 11/6/2007
Rep Boyda, Nancy E. [KS-2] - 11/6/2007 Rep Broun, Paul C. [GA-10] - 11/6/2007
Rep Burton, Dan [IN-5] - 11/6/2007 Rep Calvert, Ken [CA-44] - 11/6/2007
Rep Capito, Shelley Moore [WV-2] - 11/6/2007 Rep Carney, Christopher P. [PA-10] - 11/6/2007
Rep Coble, Howard [NC-6] - 11/6/2007 Rep Cooper, Jim [TN-5] - 11/6/2007
Rep Cramer, Robert E. (Bud), Jr. [AL-5] - 11/6/2007 Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] - 11/6/2007
Rep Davis, Artur [AL-7] - 11/6/2007 Rep Davis, David [TN-1] - 11/6/2007
Rep Davis, Lincoln [TN-4] - 11/6/2007 Rep Deal, Nathan [GA-9] - 11/6/2007
Rep Donnelly, Joe [IN-2] - 11/6/2007 Rep Doolittle, John T. [CA-4] - 11/6/2007
Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2] - 11/6/2007 Rep Ellsworth, Brad [IN-8] - 11/6/2007
Rep Fallin, Mary [OK-5] - 11/6/2007 Rep Feeney, Tom [FL-24] - 11/6/2007
Rep Gillibrand, Kirsten E. [NY-20] - 11/6/2007 Rep Gingrey, Phil [GA-11] - 11/6/2007
Rep Goode, Virgil H., Jr. [VA-5] - 11/6/2007 Rep Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6] - 11/6/2007
Rep Gordon, Bart [TN-6] - 11/6/2007 Rep Graves, Sam [MO-6] - 11/6/2007
Rep Hayes, Robin [NC-8] - 11/6/2007 Rep Higgins, Brian [NY-27] - 11/6/2007
Rep Hill, Baron P. [IN-9] - 11/6/2007 Rep Hodes, Paul W. [NH-2] - 11/6/2007
Rep Holden, Tim [PA-17] - 11/6/2007 Rep Hunter, Duncan [CA-52] - 11/6/2007
Rep Inglis, Bob [SC-4] - 11/6/2007 Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. [NC-3] - 11/6/2007
Rep Kagen, Steve [WI-8] - 11/6/2007 Rep Kanjorski, Paul E. [PA-11] - 11/6/2007
Rep Lamborn, Doug [CO-5] - 11/6/2007 Rep Lampson, Nick [TX-22] - 11/6/2007
Rep Marshall, Jim [GA-8] - 11/6/2007 Rep McCaul, Michael T. [TX-10] - 11/6/2007
Rep McHenry, Patrick T. [NC-10] - 11/6/2007 Rep McIntyre, Mike [NC-7] - 11/6/2007
Rep McNerney, Jerry [CA-11] - 11/6/2007 Rep Melancon, Charlie [LA-3] - 11/6/2007
Rep Miller, Gary G. [CA-42] - 11/6/2007 Rep Miller, Jeff [FL-1] - 11/6/2007
Rep Murphy, Patrick J. [PA-8] - 11/6/2007 Rep Murtha, John P. [PA-12] - 11/6/2007
Rep Myrick, Sue Wilkins [NC-9] - 11/6/2007 Rep Perlmutter, Ed [CO-7] - 11/6/2007
Rep Poe, Ted [TX-2] - 11/6/2007 Rep Price, Tom [GA-6] - 11/6/2007
Rep Renzi, Rick [AZ-1] - 11/6/2007 Rep Rodriguez, Ciro D. [TX-23] - 11/6/2007
Rep Rohrabacher, Dana [CA-46] - 11/6/2007 Rep Roskam, Peter J. [IL-6] - 11/6/2007
Rep Ross, Mike [AR-4] - 11/6/2007 Rep Royce, Edward R. [CA-40] - 11/6/2007
Rep Ryan, Tim [OH-17] - 11/6/2007 Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] - 11/6/2007
Rep Shuster, Bill [PA-9] - 11/6/2007 Rep Smith, Adrian [NE-3] - 11/6/2007
Rep Smith, Lamar [TX-21] - 11/6/2007 Rep Space, Zachary T. [OH-18] - 11/6/2007
Rep Stupak, Bart [MI-1] - 11/6/2007 Rep Tancredo, Thomas G. [CO-6] - 11/6/2007
Rep Tanner, John S. [TN-8] - 11/6/2007 Rep Taylor, Gene [MS-4] - 11/6/2007
Rep Udall, Mark [CO-2] - 11/6/2007 Rep Walberg, Timothy [MI-7] - 11/6/2007
Rep Wamp, Zach [TN-3] - 11/6/2007 Rep Weldon, Dave [FL-15] - 11/6/2007
Rep Westmoreland, Lynn A. [GA-3] - 11/6/2007




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November 8, 2007 02:15 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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The bill has been introduced.  H.R. 4088


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November 19, 2007 02:46 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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This bill is for nothing more than to build a data base on American citizens!

This is a bad bill and people should fight against it at all cost... Don't let

them pass it.  Call your Senator and tell him/her not to support it. 

November 29, 2007 10:27 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Opponets of this bill have mentioned that OK passed a good bill which has caused illegal immigrants to flee the state.  Two of the cornerstone elements of that bill are

(a) Mandatory use of the E-Verify system, and (b) 287(g) training for local and state police to coordinate with Federal agencies to enforce immigration law on the local level. If you like the Oklahoma bill, you should love the SAVE Act, which would essentially expand those measures to the rest of the country.

The SAVE Act implements the mandatory use of the E-Verify system nationally. This will turn off the job magnet. This will result in many illegal aliens self-deporting.

Opponets of this bill have complained it isn't necessary. We only need to enforce our current immigration laws and everything will be fine.

This is FALSE. This nation has no law that forces employers to verify social security numbers (SSN). Our current laws do NOT require this. Social security number verification is the method of ridding the work place of all illegals that use false numbers.

Only employees with false social security numbers and the employers that hire them need to fear this bill. This bill will force employors to terminate illegal aliens.  Many of these illegals will simply go home. Just like many of them are simply leaving OK. Without a nation wide implementation of SSN verification, illegals will merely escape from one state to another.

If you say it's working in OK, it will work nationally !

Employees are not asked to verify their identity or their social security number. The employer electronically submits the SSN to the federal govt's  E-Verify system to learn which numbers are valid and which ones are false. The federal govt. already has all the required information. This is NOT a plot to "control" wages or labor.

Nothing in this bill requires or even suggests a National Identity Card - Nothing. Read the bill. Nothing in the bill involves "SPP stuff".

This bill is not perfect, but it isn't filled with loop holes.

This bill is supported by both Dems and Reps. It was introduced by a Dem., but a few more Reps. have signed on as co-sponsors. Only the leadership of BOTH parties fail to support this bill. The same leadership that mistakenly wants Comprehensive Immigration Reform.

This bill is an "enforcement bill", nothing in it grants amnesty to illegal aliens.

This bill strengthens the border fence. Please READ ...................................

SEC. 103. INFRASTRUCTURE.

    (a) Infrastructure Improvements- Subject to the availability of appropriations, the Secretary shall construct or purchase--
      (1) office facilities to accommodate additional border patrol manpower;
      (2) sport utility vehicles for officers;
      (3) all weather roads for better vehicle access and performance on remote and rugged terrain (road construction should be done in consultation with the owner of the land and take into account any environmental or other land-use issues that are relevant);
      (4) additional fencing (and aesthetic fencing in business districts) in urban areas of the border; and
      (5) vehicle barriers, to support, not replace, manpower, in rural and remote areas of the border necessary to achieve operational control of the international borders of the United States.
    (b) Authorization of Appropriations- The necessary funds are authorized to be appropriated to the Secretary for each of the fiscal years 2008 through 2012 to carry out this section.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

I've read the bill and information provided by NumbersUSA and others.         I urge you to read it. My conclusion is we need this bill. It is a strong step toward acheiving our goals of strenghening the border and eliminating illegal immigration.

Numbers USA has an excellant reputation for "telling the truth", as does Californians for Population Stabilization (CAPS)

The Representatives and Senators that support this bill have been fighting against illegal immigration for a long time.  When Tancredo and Hunter endorse this, we should trust them. They have been fighting for us.

However, I'm not insisting anyone trust me or anyone else. I urge you to read the bill yourself.

I urge you to google, "save act" and learn what others are reporting. You will find pros and cons. Go to google, blog search and do the same.

Go to the respective web sites of congressmen and women that co-sponsor this bill and learn why.

Also consider that websites that support open borders and amnesty, are opposed to this bill. They wouldn't be oppose to it, if it wasn't going to work.

Read the bill, it's not that difficult or long. I posted a short part of it. It's fairly simple to understand.  I'm not going to tell you how to decide. I'm going to post information which will help you make an informed decision.

Good luck to you and all that you do. 


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