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October 23, 2007 11:35 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Republican Mike Huckabee
The signers of the Declaration of Independence were "brave people, most of whom, by the way, were clergymen."
1 out of 56 equals 'most'?
Only one of the 56 was an active clergyman, and that was John Witherspoon. A few more of the signers were former clergymen.

 

This is a good start, he seeks to mislead people and tries to talk about things in an authortative manner when he is not truly knowledgeable about them.

Wasn't there another guy from Hope, Arkansas like this......

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October 23, 2007 11:44 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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He might have some good ideas in other areas, but his open immigration, more visas, more temp workers, amnesty crap totally wipes him off any slate I'll consider.




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www.taxhikemike.org

That site shows why I can't support Huckaee.  He is a nanny stater.




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Comment updated October 30, 2007 10:43 PM

Huckabee Strikes at Wall Street Journal Critics



Presidential candidate and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee wrote the following letter to the editor of the Wall Street Journal in response to Friday’s column by John Fund, which chastised him for not being a consistent conservative:

To the Editor:

John Fund’s view of my ten-and-a-half-year record as governor of Arkansas and my vision for America’s future (“Another Man from Hope, Who is Mike Huckabee?”) calls for me to set the record straight.

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I believe that we must be good stewards of our environment and support many paths to reducing our emission of greenhouse gases, such as more nuclear power and alternative sources of clean energy. As part of our overall effort, I also support a cap and trade system, which has worked well for reduction of sulphur dioxide emissions. However, I do not agree with those who want all allowances to be auctioned off because I believe that will create too great a burden on businesses. The alternative to cap and trade is a carbon tax, which I don’t support.

..................excerpted ...................

Sincerely,

Mike Huckabee

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Just more proof of his Big Government view of the world.  How will this address what the rest of the world is doing and how their pollution is impacting us.  Just ask those in the Pacific Northwest how they like China's pollution.  Why hasn't move on.org, al gore, aclu et al invested themselves in addressing that in the world court, china's courts or wherever else they might have to MAN-UP to SPEAK OUT?

You want more Jimmy Carter the Huckster will give you more Jimmy Carter.......

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October 30, 2007 10:50 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Conservative icon Phyllis Schlafly says Huckabee "destroyed the conservative movement in Arkansas, and left the Republican Party in shambles," Schlafly charges, "Yet some of the same evangelicals who sold us on George W. Bush as a 'compassionate conservative' are now trying to sell us on Huckabee." Call the Better Business Bureau.

I am calling and filing a complaint......

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October 30, 2007 11:17 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Huckabee moved up to second place in Iowa today.  This is a good site for following the polls:

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/

You can sort by candidate, state, or pollster.

If you click on a state, then scroll all the way to the bottom, there is a forum where you can comment.

 

 




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October 31, 2007 09:03 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Joe McCutchen was interviewed by World Net Daily.  Look for him to start dropping like a rock.  Who will benefit?

 

One of Huckabee's Arkansas critics, long-time border-security activist Joe McCutchen, told WND that Freedom of Information Act documents he obtained show unusual business practices and possible improprieties in a 2006 Huckabee decision to attract a Mexican consulate to Little Rock.

 

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58430

 




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I saw him do a high school question session on cable and he sounded less than impressive.  He sounded ok on some of the interviews I heard but they were all general questions.  With the High School student they had specific questions but he still gave general and vague answers.  Not for me.


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November 10, 2007 05:47 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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(Admin) theSuperPatriot said: I saw him do a high school question session on cable and he sounded less than impressive.  He sounded ok on some of the interviews I heard but they were all general questions.  With the High School student they had specific questions but he still gave general and vague answers.  Not for me.

 

I would like to ask him a specific question or two. 

For starters I would like to know if he crosses his fingers when he says he will secure the borders and is against amnesty.  

Then I would like to know why he did not advocate and impliment the FAIR TAX in Arkansas while he was Governor? 

I would continue by asking if he is aware that according to a Congressional Report over 9,000 Americans a year are killed by illegal aliens and thousands more are raped or molested by them? 

Finally, I would ask if he would station United States Military on the border to secure it?

I Do Not Want Another Commander in Chief who does not defend home soil.... 

SovereignMan

 

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Aboslute questions that ANY candidate (Dem or Rep) should be mandated to answer!! 




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November 13, 2007 01:50 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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ARKANSAS HAS THE HIGHEST RATE OF ILLEGAL ALIENS PER CAPITA.  HUCKABEE DID IT FOR ARKANSAS HE CAN DO IT FOR THE UNITED STATES TOO!!!
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Huckabee offered 'no-cost' deal for Mexican Consulate
Developer confirms role, legislator raps ex-governor for using taxpayer funds for illegals

Posted: November 13, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi

© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

An Arkansas commercial developer confirmed his role in a no-cost "incentive deal" packaged by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee to attract a Mexican Consulate to Little Rock.

Meanwhile, an Arkansas legislator expressed concern that Huckabee used taxpayer funds inappropriately in a plan ultimately designed to assist illegal immigrants in Arkansas.

Bruce Burrow told WND his commercial real estate company acquired the land and developed the Mexican consulate building in Little Rock at the request of Huckabee, in a deal the then-governor engineered to make sure he snared the Mexican consulate away from other states.

"I agreed to do the project at no cost," Burrow told WND, confirming his involvement in the Huckabee plan.

Arkansas Republican state legislator Rick Green objected to Huckabee using taxpayer funds in the scheme.

"I'd like to sit down with Huckabee and visit with him on the issue and see if there is anything he can tell me on the Mexican consulate deal that I am not seeing," Green told WND in a telephone interview.

"But I have not seen any argument Huckabee has made that convinces me that the Mexican consulate deal was the right thing to do," he said.

"Any taxpayer money that is used to help facilitate breaking the law is wrong," Green emphasized.

WND previously reported Robert Trevino, commissioner of the Arkansas Rehabilitation Services, had signed a lease providing the Mexican Consulate space in an Arkansas Rehabilitations Services building at a cost of $1 per year. The lease provided the consulate temporary space until permanent space could be found.

Green told WND that two legislative study groups he helped organize this past summer concluded Arkansas has more illegal immigrants per capita than any other state and that its Hispanic illegal immigrant population is the fastest growing of any state in the nation.

Burrow detailed to WND how he became involved in financing the Mexican Consulate office in Little Rock.

"In a trip to Mexico, Governor Huckabee had agreed with (then-Mexican President) Vicente Fox to work with the Mexican government to establish that facility in Arkansas in the capital city of Little Rock," Burrow said.

"But since there was really no government mechanism for the state to go and acquire that property and then to go and turn around and lease to the Mexican government, it had to be done by private enterprise," he continued.

"That's where I got involved," Burrow admitted. "That's what we do. We own a number of properties and we're a developer.

"So we agreed to do it at no profit," Burrow said. "And that's what I did. I acquired the property, renovated it for the Mexican government."

The entire project cost about $1.2 million, Burrow recalled.

"I think that we paid south of $500,000 for the existing facility which was a former doctor's office," he said. "Then I went in and renovated it completely to meet their needs and their specifications. "We spent probably another $700,000 renovating, so probably about $1.2 million for the project all in."

WND asked Burrow why Huckabee felt the urgency to offer the Mexican government such a good deal.

"What had happened, as I understand it," Burrow explained, "is that Governor Huckabee had met with President Fox in a trip. Huckabee kind of wrestled the Mexican Consulate office away from our surrounding larger states. ...."

"From day one, the Mexican government paid us rent on the property," he added, "and the Mexican government has the right to purchase the property and the Mexican consulate office here in Little Rock. I can't remember the exact dates, but I'm assuming the Mexican government will go ahead and acquire the property."

Burrow acquired land near the University of Arkansas at Little Rock, at 3500 South University, an address adjacent to a Bank of America branch bank.

"We estimated that $410 million per year from Arkansas is sent back to Mexico alone, just in remittance payments," Green noted.

Since 2005, Bank of America has advertised "SafeSend," a nationwide "free remittance to Mexico" program designed to send money to Mexico without charging fees.

WND also reported receiving a copy of a check from the city of Little Rock, dated June 1, paying contractor Baldwin and Shell $60,000 for two invoices, dated April 30 and May 31, in conjunction with the contract for the Mexican Consulate.

Burrow confirmed that Baldwin & Shell was the contractor he hired to renovate the consulate building.

He also explained the Little Rock check.

"That Little Rock check was paid as 'economic development,'" Burrow told WND. "As I understand how that worked, Governor Huckabee talked with the city of Little Rock about how they could provide an incentive basis for the Mexican government to decide to put the Mexican Consulate for Little Rock.

"So, Little Rock put up $50,000 from the city under their economic development fund," Burrow continued, "and $10,000 came from the state economic development fund."

The check, then, reflects a total of $60,000 invested by the city, but $10,000 was paid by Huckabee out of the state fund, he said.

"I can't remember exactly how the development money was flowed into the project," he added, "but anyway it all went into the project. It may have been for the demolition portion, or whatever, but it was applied to the project."

The government contributions then reduced the total redevelopment cost by $60,000, Burrow said.

"From my perspective, it reduced the acquisition cost by $60,000," he explained, "and that was the economic incentive to the Mexican government.

"We had to do it that way, once Governor Huckabee realized the deal could not be completely done by the state government but had to be a private enterprise deal," he said.

Burrow confirmed a WND report that a July 21, 2006, memo from Trevino's as commissioner of the Arkansas Rehabilitations Service suggested that the deal, even after Huckabee decided to involve private commercial developers, would be financed by a consortium of Arkansas companies, such that Mexico would have no costs for three years to support the Little Rock consulate.

"But all that got changed, that Mexico wasn't going to pay any expenses for three years," Burrow explained. "Once the project got over into our ownership – and there's probably not any documents in the file in that regard – but we decided there had to be a lease agreement, and the Mexican government has been paying the rent from day one."

Nevertheless, he emphasized, "I agreed to do the project at no cost."

"I am out my time and expenses, but I am happy to do that," Burrow said. "We were able to get the Mexican Consulate in Little Rock instead of it going to Oklahoma City or Memphis or Nashville, so it was a great economic thing for us.

"We have and awful lot of Hispanic workers in the state," he continued, "and I grew up in a predominately Hispanic neighborhood in California. So, I felt if we could assist in any way that we would."

WND asked Burrow if Huckabee wanted to provide Mexico incentives because having the Mexican Consulate in Little Rock would help attract low-cost Hispanic workers to the state.

"The Mexican Consulate was never considered an inducement for any illegal aliens to come into the state," he protested. "The Mexican government placed the consulate here simply to handle the representation of their citizens in this part of the mid-South area. The Mexican government has done everything they said they would do, and I am very satisfied with the situation."

Green, however, expressed concern.

"We're an agricultural state, and a poultry producing state," he said. "That's where we get the argument that there would not be enough people to fill the jobs if every illegal was deported from the state of Arkansas."

Still, this was not enough to satisfy Green.

"Even if that were the case," he countered, "you still have to be willing to obey the law.

"We've got to look at reforming the welfare system too," Green added. "If enough able-body people were put to work from welfare, there would be plenty of people to fill all the jobs available in Arkansas."

Burrow boasted, "By all accounts, the Mexican Consulate has been successful. There's been a huge backlash and a huge discussion about the illegals in this country, and somebody has to serve these people, legal or illegal, and to provide advice and to represent them in a foreign land, and I think that's what these consulate offices do."

WND previously reported Trevino confirmed in a telephone interview the authenticity of the $1-per-year lease he arranged for the Mexican Consulate to occupy space in the Arkansas Rehabilitations Services government building.

WND also reported Trevino, then serving as economic development adviser to Huckabee, accompanied the governor to Mexico on the initial trip in which the financial incentives were offered.

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I thought this was so disgusting that I posted it as a seperate post - but really I just think every Grassfire and Firesociety member as well as ALL AMERICANS need to know about this.

I think this is treason beyond a doubt.  This governor would give America to Mexico in a heart beat!  In fact he is already trying to!

Who does he represent?  I think he should move to Mexico as obviously he likes their citizens more than Americans and he is more concerned about their citizens than he is about Americans.

Send this to everyone you can, like local radio and TV shows.  It won't be covered by ABC, NBC or CBS so I sent to Lou Dobbs but someone needs to send it to Glenn Beck. 

It makes me sick!

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stick a folk in his ass and turn him over , He's Done


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I think this bodes badly for the entire group - it shows just how corrupt these "open borders" big business - global empire supporters are.

I can't believe how he met with Vicente Fox and the two of them decided what was best for American farmers in Arkansas - illegal aliens and a Mexican consulate!

This needs to be on every TV across the country - it needs to be bigger than Dancing with the Stars.

This is treason at it's core.  He is MORE than DONE - I hope he never gets in any government office again, not even county clerk!

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We talked some about this on another Huckabee thread.  There is a report on www.arkansasfreedom.com 




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Note:  Scroll down a few paragraphs to find more "Huckabee for Illegals" commentary. 

 

Romney assails foes on immigration

By LIZ SIDOTI

Associated Press Writer

 

SIOUX CITY, Iowa (AP) -- Republican presidential contender Mitt Romney, seeking to protect his narrowing lead and fend off challenges from rivals in this early-voting state, assailed Mike Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani over supporting tuition breaks and broader sanctuary for illegal immigrants or their children.

As a new poll showed his advantage trimmed in Iowa, the former Massachusetts governor on Tuesday singled out the two Republicans giving chase here and likened them to Democratic front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton. "There are those people in both parties who are in a sanctuary state of mind, who believe in sanctuary cities, who believe in policies which are sanctuary in nature," he said.

Just weeks before voting begins, the race in the leadoff caucus state has tightened. Romney led in Iowa by double-digits in polls for months but now is trying to curb Huckabee's recent rise in surveys and gains among religious conservatives, while working to prevent Giuliani from mounting a more serious challenge.

Underscoring the fragile state of Romney's lead here, a CBS News/New York Times poll released Tuesday showed Romney with 27 percent backing by likely GOP caucus-goers. Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor, now threatens Romney's lead with 21 percent of support; Giuliani, the former New York mayor, has 15 percent.

Going after both on a salient issue in western Iowa, Romney contended that Huckabee fought for tuition breaks for children of illegal immigrants in his state, while Giuliani provided tuition breaks at the City University for illegal immigrants. He said Clinton, too, backs such breaks.

"Giving a better deal to the children of illegal aliens than we give to U.S. citizens from surrounding states is simply not fair and not right," Romney told reporters during a one-day trip to the state.

In turn, Huckabee said in a phone interview with The Associated Press: "The attacks from a guy who has sanctuary cities in his state is interesting." Huckabee said he backed a bill in Arkansas - and would do so again - that gave children of illegal immigrants "the opportunity to be awarded for academic achievements" based on merit provided they were in the process of applying for citizenship. "Why would you penalize the children for the crime of the parents?" Huckabee said.

SovereignMan says: So there you have it folks, once an illegal alien apologist always an illegal alien apologist. Gov Huckabee will talk a misleading mile a minute about it being harder to get on an airplane in Little Rock than it is to walk across the border but what he means is we need to make it easier to get on the airplane!!! If you like President Bush on Immigration Issues you will love Gov Huckabee.

Also responding to Romney, Giuliani spokeswoman Maria Comella accused him of ignoring his own record as governor while he campaigns for president. "Under Governor Mitt Romney the number of illegal immigrants skyrocketed, while he recommended millions of dollars in state aid to numerous sanctuary cities and to companies employing illegal immigrants, not to mention the illegals working on his own lawn," she said.

During Romney's time as governor, at least three Massachusetts cities offered sanctuary to illegal immigrants. While Romney frequently claims that he authorized state police to enforce immigration law, he leaves out the fact that his order never went into effect.

Speaking to reporters, Romney noted that he vetoed a bill the Massachusetts Legislature passed that would have allowed children born to illegal immigrants to get a tuition break in state schools. "Illegals do not get a break in our schools," he said.

While he focused on Huckabee and Giuliani, Romney broadened his criticism to include opponent John McCain, saying, "He is somebody who has taken the wrong side on this issue as well."

Romney didn't mention Fred Thompson, the former Tennessee senator who is billing himself as a consistent conservative and a staunch opponent of illegal immigration as he steps up efforts in Iowa to try to reverse a downward spiral.

Asked whether he agreed with Thompson's record on immigration, Romney sidestepped.

"He wasn't a governor or a mayor, and so he didn't put in place policies that would have affected, for instance, tuition breaks to illegals or driver's licenses," Romney said. "He was elected to the Senate, went to the Senate. What did he do during that time period? I just don't know. It doesn't stand out as an effort that he made."

On other issues, Romney:

- Shrugged off the National Right to Life Committee's endorsement of Thompson, saying: "You always like all the endorsements you can get but you can't get them all." He took the opportunity to mention Giuliani's support for abortion rights.

- Appeared to distance himself from the Bush administration's policy banning the photographing of coffins returning from war. "I don't see any particular reason to have that policy, but I haven't really heard both sides of it," he said, adding he wouldn't find it offensive for people at an airport terminal to snap a photo.

 

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Ann Coulter says it best:
“On illegal immigration, Huckabee makes George Bush sound like Tom Tancredo. He has compared illegal aliens to slaves brought here in chains from Africa, saying, “I think frankly the Lord is giving us a second chance to do better than we did before.”

Toward that end, when an Arkansas legislator introduced a bill that would prevent illegal aliens from voting and receiving state benefits, Huckabee denounced the bill, saying it would rile up “those who are racist and bigots.”

He also made the insane point that companies like Toyota would not invest in Arkansas if the state didn’t allow non-citizens to vote because it would “send the message that, essentially, ‘If you don’t look like us, talk like us and speak like us, we don’t want you.’”

 

We don't need a race card gambler in the White House.........

SovereignMan

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I heard on CNN last night that Huckabee is now 2nd in the polls in Iowa?  Is that correct?  Do these people not know who this man is in his soul?

I don't know but I doubt it if the people in Iowa would like living in the barrio that we now live in, in Los Angeles.

Someone needs to get their attention in regards to who this man is and NOW!

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Huckabee is not telling the whole truth about the illegal alien scholarship plan he supports....

What else is he asking forgiveness for......

SovereignMan

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Supported in-state tuition in Arkansas for illegal immigrants "if you'd sat in our schools from the time you're 5 or 6 years old and you had become an A-plus student," among other things.

Mike Huckabee on Wednesday, November 28th, 2007 in a debate in St. Petersburg

Tuition bill wasn't that strict

During a Republican presidential debate Nov. 28, 2007, a questioner asked Mike Huckabee about his support for a 2005 measure in Arkansas that would have granted in-state tuition to the children of illegal immigrants. Though the bill never made it out of the legislature, critics still question his support of it.

Huckabee described the law's requirements as stringent, applying only to students "if you'd sat in our schools from the time you're 5 or 6 years old and you had become an A-plus student, you'd completed the core curriculum, you were an exceptional student, and you also had to be drug- and alcohol-free — and the other provision, you had to be applying for citizenship."

That's quite a number of restrictions. Did the bill outline all that?

No. The bill, proposed by Rep. Joyce Elliott, D-Little Rock, said that students had to have spent three years in Arkansas high schools and graduated, and they had to sign an affidavit saying they intended to pursue citizenship. Then they would be eligible for in-state tuition and a popular state scholarship program, the Academic Challenge Scholarship, just like their fellow classmates.

Huckabee conflates the proposed law with rules for the scholarship, which does have requirements for a core curriculum and drug-testing. Maybe Huckabee was confused on which programs he was talking about; he had mentioned the Academic Challenge Scholarship by name a few moments earlier.

But even granting a mix-up, Huckabee is plain wrong about the A-plus average — the scholarship requires a 3.0 out of 4.0. And there's no requirement for attending state schools since age 5 or 6.

We award Huckabee a Barely True.


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