With the govt outsourcing Blackwater (ex-military being paid 1/3 of what this PRIVATE company bills the US)... Now, they are using PRIVATE detention camps... UNREGULATED camps.
This is more than concerning given every EO and law put into place....If you're detained - you have ZERO rights...and zero chance for hope. Just how many ppl does the govt think they need to detain? WHO are the ppl the govt anticipates detaining? Reports of upwards of 800 camps nationwide - ???
I find it incredibly concerning our govt is outsourcing MILITARY and DETENTION camps - removing themselves from the equation - and having a highly trained group outside the military.... being paid privately (at 3-20x the rate of our federal military).
"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. The loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or imagined, from abroad." -- James Madison
When Mexico jails USA citizens it is all too much the way some are trying to paint this picture . Only the jails are filthy , you do not eat decent food unless someone brings it to you and in the justice system in Mexico you are guilty until YOU prove your innocence . Where USA citizens differ is we are resorceful and industrious , we have even made money off the Mexican situation by making movies and writing songs . Perhaps the illegals need to do the same , a suggested title for a song might be , " Just send my mail to the Arizona Jail ". I will even give them the melody .
Vote Responsibly and if you don't vote don't complain around me .
Call me tinfoil hat, but the camps are for those who oppose the North American Union. Americans , more often than not settle things peacefully, but theresistance to a North Ameican Union ids building rapidly. The main stream media has avoided anything addressing theissue at the request of the CFR leaders. But, sometimes the news is too hard to resist for ebven liberal columnists and commentators.
Add the following actions together---
attempts to legalize illegal immigrants,(the source of low wages thus greater profits);
new and stronger fights to control gun rights and dismantle gun ownership (starting with veterans which is happening now) for inability to fight back with weapons;
the Texas Corridor (get the roads in place); Kansas City Smartport, (Mexcio in the heart of America); foot dragging on constructing the fence (won't be needed with open borders); punishment of Border Agents (put fear in to Agency to weaken control efforts)
The Kelo decision by SCOTUS (any property can be seized by and municiplaity for the profit and gain of other PRIVATE paries);
I was skeptical of these reported camps.... however, lately nothing is really surprising me anymore. Now that even MSM is reporting it - my skeptism is gone... It just truly amazes me that given our borders are OPEN - ppl are actually being sold on the premise these are for terrorists?? Give me a break ppl.... They have put every law into place to secure their control over the country.... it's darn right scary the bed they have made for us.
They know they are being exposed (by folks like Ron Paul) - and are moving primaries up almost A YEAR before the election - NH might be early December...what's the rush guys? They want to ensure they silence him one way or another... he's ruining their plan.
"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. The loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or imagined, from abroad." -- James Madison
I had a friend who work on one "facility" years ago. It was called Operation Garden Plot. After he became more aware of what was going on, he finally quit. He did speak of what the government had planned for people who did not go along with the system. Internment camps will be our future homes.
A southern born child, living behind enemy lines in occupied territory. I love freedom, cause a chained dog ain't happy.
bugsygirl said: Why would moving their elections up stop him at all. Please explain.
Taking away time for the growth of a mostly grassroots camoaign . It seems very obvious to me that this is the intended goal and it is not done by just one or two states , it is a pretty deep and well financed move . I'd bet there is as much money being spent to ruin Paul's campaign as is being spent on advertisinf all the others .
Vote Responsibly and if you don't vote don't complain around me .
oh ok. thank you. kind of like when reid shoves some bill on us and says it cant go to committee and has to be voted on right away. Ive posted pictures of various camps before myself and many ridiculed it with their skeptisism. Sometimes people are just not ready to hear. Its comming to the forefront now though and getting more attention. When you add it up with all the other issues comming to the light you start to see the plans forming.
Can you guys help me out here? I think I saw the wrong video. The video I just watched was about a detention center for illegal aliens. Isn't that what we want? We want dangerous illegal alien criminals detained and deported, right?
BTW--what is wrong with arresting illegal immigrants?? Is it wrong to do because they have families with them. Am I a bad guy for saying they are here illegally too? Does thsi not keep the families together???
Everythimng we do is wrong and everyone who is here illeally is right???
Enough --the detention centers being constructed are not for illegal immigrants--after your guns are removed, if you still protest--welcome to their facilities>>>>>>
Ill beleive its for illegals when our government actually starts massively enforcing our laws and stops trying to spring aliens who have raped our children and murdered. Ill beleive we are at war for a good reason also when our own borders are closed and our Mexican unwanted guests sent home.
bugsygirl said: Ill beleive its for illegals when our government actually starts massively enforcing our laws and stops trying to spring aliens who have raped our children and murdered. Ill beleive we are at war for a good reason also when our own borders are closed and our Mexican unwanted guests sent home.
Mr. T - why would it be for illegals? Are they enforcing laws now? Do they anticipate a huge deportation they haven't told us about? I've read it's for terrorists - so, now they are building camps for terrorist - vs just closing our borders?
Why would they build camps for illegals? Think about it...doesn't make much sense.
"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. The loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or imagined, from abroad." -- James Madison
There are many lawsuits against this company (being they aren't regulated by anyone and lose money when prisoners are released - pretty scary). It reminds me of when I worked in Nursing homes - and the administration fretted over a planned discharge..."isn't there something more we can 'keep' her for?"... just one more day brought in one more day of money - and hopes to meet that month's budget for that fortune 500 company now owned by...The Carlyle Group.
Gain for Pain
Private prisons boomed in the 1990s, not least of all the Corrections Corporation of America (CCA). As state governments eagerly transferred prisoners to the private sector, the country's largest for-profit prison became known as "a theme stock for the nineties." That was before the stabbings, killings and escape of five convicted murderers from an overcrowded CCA facility in Youngstown, Ohio, in 1999. Inmates sued and won a $1.65 million settlement. The District of Columbia, which had been sending maximum-security prisoners to CCA's medium-security facility, did not renew its contract. CCA's stock plummeted as the company neared bankruptcy. The for-profit experiment seemed over. Luckily for CCA and other private prisons, the Bush Administration came running to the rescue. The number of federal inmates in private facilities has grown by two-thirds since 2000, comprising more than 24,000 prisoners, the Associated Press recently reported. Nearly thirty-percent of CCA's 67,000 inmates in 38 states are now supplied by federal agencies. Thousands more illegal immigrants reside in for-profit facilities, awaiting sentencing or deportation. "The number of federal inmates is expected to rise from 185,000 to 226,000 by 2010," AP reports, "with private companies likely to be relied on for housing non-citizen immigrants convicted of federal crimes." At their peak, private prisons were expected to save states money while reducing violence among prisoners. They've done neither. A Florida audit recently revealed that CCA and competitor CEO Group overcharged the state by $13 million for five prisons over the past eight years. This included $4.5 million for jobs left vacant, $2.9 million for maintenance work never undertaken and $5 million for cost-of-living-adjustments that never reached employees. Moreover, prisoner riots have rocked CCA facilities in Colorado, Mississippi and elsewhere. "Substandard conditions, inadequate training, high turnover, understaffing and chronic security lapses" are among CCA's deficiencies, the Denver alt-weekly Westwood reported last year. The nation's sixth-largest prison system feeds off "gasping rust-belt towns and battered farm communities" such as Tutwiler, Mississippi, "one of the poorest counties in the poorest state in the country." Unlike state or federal prisons, CCA and its brethren have no incentive to rehabilitate prisoners. Running a for-profit prison is about filling up empty beds. "We've gotten so extreme in overusing incarceration that we have for-profit industries with an interest in high crime rates," notes University of North Florida criminologist Michael Hallett. And federal authorities who happily turn over the fresh meat.
"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. The loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or imagined, from abroad." -- James Madison