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October 18, 2007 08:19 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Why Evangelicals Should Support Mitt Romney
By Wayne Grudem
Thursday, October 18, 2007

As an evangelical professor of Bible and theology, I have decided to support Mitt Romney for President (even though he is a Mormon) for two old-fashioned reasons: First, he is the best-qualified candidate, and second, he holds moral and political values consistent with those in the Bible.

Best-qualified: The best predictor of future performance is a person’s past track record. Romney’s record is stellar:

Intellectual ability: He was in the top 5 percent of his class at Harvard Business School and simultaneously in the top 1/3 of his class at Harvard Law School. He is incredibly intelligent.

Governor of Massachusetts: He won the governor’s race as a Republican in Massachusetts and restored financial discipline to the state. He was a successful governor of a liberal state. This also means he has a good shot at winning some New England states away from the Democrats in the general election.

Business success: He was hired by Bain & Company, one of the elite business consulting firms in the country, and was so successful that he became a partner. He then founded Bain Capital and made it a highly successful investment company. He built a personal fortune of around $200,000,000 in the process, an amazing business achievement. He knows how to run businesses, and what makes them profitable. This indicates a deep and also practical understanding of what kind of policies will be helpful or harmful to an economy, and second, an outstanding management ability proven in both state government and in business, which is a good predictor of ability to be an excellent President. By contrast, no Democratic candidate has ever run a business, a state or even a city.

Chairman of Olympic Games: He also rescued the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympic Games. When he was brought in to run the Games he turned what was heading to a scandal-ridden financial and PR disaster into a widely-praised success. This involved massive skill in public relations, media management, diplomacy, morale building, and financial administration. This is Romney’s consistent track record: he solves large problems.

Conservative positions: Romney’s positions on social, economic, and international issues are all soundly conservative. On major issues such as protection of the unborn, a Constitutional amendment to protect marriage, strong national defense and victory against radical Islamic terrorists, securing our border, a signed pledge of no tax increases, promoting school choice, and appointment of Supreme Court justices who will interpret law, not make new law, Romney holds solidly conservative positions. His positions are the ones the majority of evangelicals have supported in the past.

Some people object that Romney has “flip-flopped” on some of these positions. I think that accusation is exaggerated. He hasn’t flip-flopped back and forth, he has simply become more consistently conservative. I think that’s a good thing in a political and media climate that is more and more liberal. (In fact, Ronald Reagan also changed from signing a liberal abortion law as governor of California to being a consistently pro-life president.) Evangelicals have worked for decades to persuade people of the pro-life position, and Romney has been persuaded, and he is strongly on our side on this issue.

What about his religion? Romney is a Mormon, and I strongly disagree with a significant number of Mormon theological beliefs, which I find to be inconsistent with the Bible and with historic Christian teachings. But many Mormon teachings on ethics and values are similar to those in the Bible, and those teachings support Romney’s conservative political values. .......................

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October 18, 2007 08:33 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated October 18, 2007 08:36 PM

maybe the evangelicals could figure out which planet Mitt and His wife will be "GOD" of in the future while they're at it.

 

Being president would be good practice no matter which planet he becomes God of.

 

 




With hearts fortified with these animating reflections, we most solemnly, before God and the world, declare, that, exerting the utmost energy of those powers, which our beneficent Creator hath graciously bestowed upon us, the arms we have been compelled by our enemies to assume, we will, in defiance of every hazard, with unabating firmness and perseverence, employ for the preservation of our liberties; being with one mind resolved to die freemen rather than to live slaves
October 18, 2007 10:56 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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fj45lvr said:

maybe the evangelicals could figure out which planet Mitt and His wife will be "GOD" of in the future while they're at it.

They wouldn't know.

 

Being president would be good practice no matter which planet he becomes God of.

This would probably be true.

 

 

 




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October 18, 2007 11:27 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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FireWing said:
fj45lvr said:

maybe the evangelicals could figure out which planet Mitt and His wife will be "GOD" of in the future while they're at it.

They wouldn't know.

 

Being president would be good practice no matter which planet he becomes God of.

This would probably be true.

 

 

 

 

 NOT!

Sorry to burst any bubbles, but there is only (1) ONE GOD.  Wasn't is Lucifer-Satan that said:  " And the Sepent said to the woman", before she partook of the forbidden fruit.  "You surely shall not die! For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened , and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

October 19, 2007 12:15 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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 Yes, G47, yes.


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October 19, 2007 12:54 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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He gerald you are preaching to the choir....I was only pointing out how evangelicals could never support Romney who is seeking to become a God of his own planet like the "god" (Elohim) that they teach came to and from a planet near the star KOLOB and was once a man like you or me.

If people knew these things (only the tip of an iceberg) they wouldn't rally behind such perverse notions (especially when there are actual Christian men running).

 This doesn't even deal with the fact of the politics...which are bad enough on their own merit....you don't get nicknamed "flipper" for nothing.

 

 

 

 




With hearts fortified with these animating reflections, we most solemnly, before God and the world, declare, that, exerting the utmost energy of those powers, which our beneficent Creator hath graciously bestowed upon us, the arms we have been compelled by our enemies to assume, we will, in defiance of every hazard, with unabating firmness and perseverence, employ for the preservation of our liberties; being with one mind resolved to die freemen rather than to live slaves
October 19, 2007 12:59 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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fj45lvr said:

He gerald you are preaching to the choir....I was only pointing out how evangelicals could never support Romney who is seeking to become a God of his own planet like the "god" (Elohim) that they teach came to and from a planet near the star KOLOB and was once a man like you or me.

If people knew these things (only the tip of an iceberg) they wouldn't rally behind such perverse notions (especially when there are actual Christian men running).

 This doesn't even deal with the fact of the politics...which are bad enough on their own merit....you don't get nicknamed "flipper" for nothing.

 

 

 

 

 

Wasn't intentional.  There are those that still believe they can become a god.  A god of what?  Evangelical of what?  All the little gods?

October 19, 2007 01:15 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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yeah.

How this guy can actually believe what he wrote is simply amazing to me and should tell people something about how much of a disconnect there is out there...

So his moral values align with some Christians...so what??? Does that just gloss over how an adult person could mentally agree to the "rest of the story" as Paul Harvey says??

I don't think so.   How arrogant to firstly flash some kind of credentials and then go on to tell people something without one shred of common reasoning behind it as to any type of specifics.  The fact that romney was willing to go along with abortion should have immeadiately disqualified him and if that was not enough there is the immigration stance and the general acceptance of the "status quo".  How is that "leadership" when it is so painfully obvious that we are perpetually headed in the wrong direction which requires a DRASTIC change of course (ironically that only requires the Federal gov. to actually follow the LAW!!!!  as outlined in Article 1 section 8 of our Constitution...nothing more and nothing less)




With hearts fortified with these animating reflections, we most solemnly, before God and the world, declare, that, exerting the utmost energy of those powers, which our beneficent Creator hath graciously bestowed upon us, the arms we have been compelled by our enemies to assume, we will, in defiance of every hazard, with unabating firmness and perseverence, employ for the preservation of our liberties; being with one mind resolved to die freemen rather than to live slaves
October 19, 2007 01:26 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Interesting article on Mitt's positions:

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/romney/record/




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October 19, 2007 02:01 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Gotta love the prevalent "Christian" attitudes that arise whenever Romney's name is brought up in these forums.  Didn't Christ preach, "Love thy neighbor," instead of, "Thou shalt have a holier-than-thou attitude towards people who don't share your views 100%?"


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October 19, 2007 02:33 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Dyne said: Gotta love the prevalent "Christian" attitudes that arise whenever Romney's name is brought up in these forums.  Didn't Christ preach, "Love thy neighbor," instead of, "Thou shalt have a holier-than-thou attitude towards people who don't share your views 100%?"

 

You're absolutely correct.

Who is not showing "love"??

I think you're confusing something....we're talking about electing a "leader" not "loving thy neighbor".  Most assuredly what people "believe" and how they "lead their lives" matters. 

I don't think it is at all unloving to let others know to not put allegiance in a man who is intent on becoming a "god" of his own planet in the future....do you?? 

 




With hearts fortified with these animating reflections, we most solemnly, before God and the world, declare, that, exerting the utmost energy of those powers, which our beneficent Creator hath graciously bestowed upon us, the arms we have been compelled by our enemies to assume, we will, in defiance of every hazard, with unabating firmness and perseverence, employ for the preservation of our liberties; being with one mind resolved to die freemen rather than to live slaves
October 19, 2007 04:21 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Wayne Grudem and FireWing are both right.  Evangelicals should support Mitt Romney for those mentioned reasons.

The only thing I'm questioning, is Evangelical "What's"?!?!  Certainly any TRUE Christian that reads the King James bible would be held accountable on judgement day by voting for Mitt Romney, and Rudy McRomsonabee for that matter. 




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October 19, 2007 04:52 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Not to insult anyone, but Evangelicals got us George W. Bush.


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October 19, 2007 04:55 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Domenico said: Not to insult anyone, but Evangelicals got us George W. Bush.

 

Wasn't the evangelical Christians. 

When I say Christian I mean a TRUE Christian.  Not the ones that read misinterpreted versions of the bible and those who listen to one part of it but not the other.




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October 19, 2007 07:39 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Then Jesus is not God?


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October 19, 2007 07:48 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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(CM) theSuperPatriot said: Then Jesus is not God?

 

what??? 

 

Jesus is the custodian at my old school....his last name is Gonzalez




With hearts fortified with these animating reflections, we most solemnly, before God and the world, declare, that, exerting the utmost energy of those powers, which our beneficent Creator hath graciously bestowed upon us, the arms we have been compelled by our enemies to assume, we will, in defiance of every hazard, with unabating firmness and perseverence, employ for the preservation of our liberties; being with one mind resolved to die freemen rather than to live slaves
October 19, 2007 07:56 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated October 19, 2007 07:58 PM
Do you worship this janitor?


"Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams
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Then Jesus the Christ is not God?


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October 19, 2007 08:05 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Where do you get that idea??


With hearts fortified with these animating reflections, we most solemnly, before God and the world, declare, that, exerting the utmost energy of those powers, which our beneficent Creator hath graciously bestowed upon us, the arms we have been compelled by our enemies to assume, we will, in defiance of every hazard, with unabating firmness and perseverence, employ for the preservation of our liberties; being with one mind resolved to die freemen rather than to live slaves
October 19, 2007 08:19 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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From listening to this thread.




"Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams

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