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September 25, 2007 03:45 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Surprise surprise.....here's my results:

Tancredo  27
Hunter 23
Gilmore 21
McCain and Fred Thompson   19
Brownback and Romney  18
Giuliani  and Huckabee   17
Biden and Paul 10
Edwards, Clinton, Richardson, Obama, 6
Dodd and Kucinich 1



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September 25, 2007 03:59 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated September 25, 2007 04:01 PM

Kinda weird:

Tancredo  45

McCain    36

Hunter     36

Thompson   33

Obama, Edwards, Clinton  5,5,5




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September 25, 2007 04:25 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Remember FireWing. It's very early in the race so far. Did anyone see Newt Gingrich's Letter to the Public today? If not, I will be glad to post it. In fact here:

I don't know if you saw it, but the decision of Columbia University to invite Iranian dictator Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to speak in their "distinguished" lecturer series took a truly bizarre turn last week. Seeking to justify the soapbox Columbia has given to a man who is actively engaged in killing American troops in Iraq, Columbia Dean of International and Public Affairs John Coatsworth told Fox News that even Adolph Hitler would have been invited to speak at Columbia.

Well, across town from Columbia in New York City is the New School, another institution of higher learning. I was with the New School's President, former U.S. Democratic Senator from Nebraska Bob Kerrey, yesterday morning. As the protests over Ahmadinejad's speech raged, he had some powerful things to say about what the New School could teach Columbia about history, about the real meaning of free speech and about common decency.

Could Hitler Come to the New School? 'Yes, If He Was Dead.'

By way of history, you should know that the New School is a university that from its very founding has been dedicated to academic freedom and democracy.

During the 1930s, the New School was a haven for intellectuals and artists who had been banished by the dictatorships of Hitler and Mussolini.

And after World War II, the New School was the first academic institution to establish a program designed specifically for returning soldiers to complete their education. For those who had sacrificed to serve their country, the New School offered the opportunity to get ahead in civilian life tuition-free. It remains today an all scholarship college.

And so it came as no surprise that when I asked New School President Kerrey if he would have allowed Adolph Hitler to come on his campus, his reply was powerfully blunt:

"Yes, if he was dead."

It's a standard that I agree with wholeheartedly. It's too bad that the leadership of Columbia University hasn't learned the lesson of the New School: America honors freedom of expression by being a refuge for the oppressed, not by giving a soapbox to the oppressors. This is not about free speech, the Iranian dictator can stand on any New York City street corner and say what he wishes, but we do not need to legitimize his hate-filled holocaust-denying diatribes by giving him a platform at a "distinguished" lecturer series at Columbia.

Learning From the World That Fails

If the Iranian dictator's speech at Columbia is an example of one institution's failure to learn, there is an opportunity coming up later this week for all of us to learn how to change our country.

You've heard me talk before about Solutions Day, coming up this Thursday and Saturday, and how we're going to focus on moving our government from the world that fails to the world that works.

Last weekend, I went to a state that illustrates better than any other state in the union the consequences for real people -- real families, real jobs, real lives -- when government is mired in the world that fails.

Will the Last One to Leave Michigan Please Turn Out the Lights?

In 1950, Michigan was one of the most prosperous states in America. There were 1,800,000 people in Detroit, and Detroiters enjoyed the highest per capita income of any large city in the country.

Today, Michigan is an economic basket case. Its unemployment rate is a crushing 7.2 percent -- the highest in the nation. And to make matters worse, Michigan taxes are higher than the national average.

So with no jobs and high taxes, it's no surprise that Michiganders are going elsewhere to live and work. Its population is declining so much that the wry joke in Michigan is that the last one to leave please turn out the lights.

Michigan and the Virtual Circle of the World That Works

But there is a way forward for Michigan. It's not complicated, and it's not theoretical. It's a simple story, taken from Michigan's recent history, of government in the world that works.

When former Gov. John Engler (R.) was leading Michigan, its economic outlook was much different. Gov. Engler brought Michigan to 3.2 percent unemployment, the lowest unemployment rate in the state's history. And he did so while cutting taxes and controlling spending.

And Gov. Engler did something else that was critical to Michigan's prosperity: During his time as governor, Michigan regained its AAA bond rating. The reason this is critical is because a state's bond rating determines how much its taxpayers pay on the state's debt. The better the rating, the less taxpayers pay. The less taxpayers pay, the more money is available for tax cuts or other priorities.

It's the virtual circle of prosperity of the world that works: Lower taxes means more jobs means higher revenue from a bigger economy means controlled spending means a better bond rating. And a better bond rating means a lower cost of debt which means more money available for lower taxes which means the creation of even more jobs.

'Like a Teenager Getting a Credit Card and Not Realizing He Has to Pay'

That's the world that works. Now we get to the world that fails.

In 11 short months after gaining power, Democrats in Michigan managed to lose the AAA bond rating. As I told my audience of Michigan Republicans gathered on Mackinac Island last weekend, it was like a teenager getting a credit card and not realizing that he has to pay. (You can view the entire speech here.)

So, today, Michigan is in the virtual circle of the world that fails: It's losing jobs, losing people and losing money, and now it has to pay even more to service its debt.

And, predictably in the world that fails, the solution that Democrats in Lansing are proposing is a huge tax increase to close the gap between the state's higher costs and declining revenues.

Higher taxes are precisely what Michigan does not need right now. So far, the battle over the tax increase has been a fairly partisan one -- with a Democratic majority in the legislature and a Democratic governor pushing for the taxes, and Republicans, under the leadership of state party Chairman Saul Anuzis and others, pushing for lower spending.

But this doesn't have to be a partisan battle. The guiding principles of the world that works aren't red versus blue. They're red, white and blue. Michigan simply needs to do what we know works and have the courage to carry it out.

Solutions Day Begins This Thursday

The same problems that effect government in Lansing today effect government, to a greater or lesser degree, virtually everywhere in America.

Solutions Day, which begins this Thursday, will be a genuinely bipartisan opportunity for Americans to move government -- from the level of school boards and city councils all the way up to Congress and the White House -- from the world that fails to the world that works.

These events get underway in just two days, including:

  • Roy Romer, a Democrat who is the former governor of Colorado and superintendent of schools in Los Angeles, will be giving a workshop on reforming public schools.

     

     

  • Elaine Kamarck, the head of President Bill Clinton's reinventing government initiative, will give a workshop on reducing the bureaucracy.

     

     

  • Former FDA Commissioner Mark McClellan will lead a discussion on creating a 21st-Century intelligent health system.

     

     

  • Congressman Brian Bilbray (R.) of California will broadcast from the border on enforcement first in the illegal immigration debate.

     

Solutions Day will be this and much, much more. For more information and to sign up, just visit AmericanSolutions.com or call 866-580-6398 (866-580-NEWT).

A Radical View: American States Shouldn't Fail

As you know, I have a very radical view of our government: Levies shouldn't fail, bridges shouldn't fall and states shouldn't lose their citizens.

The effort that my organization, American Solutions, is putting forward this week draws on my experience working with Gov. Reagan, candidate Reagan and President Reagan -- developing over a 16-year period a plan to create a Republican majority in the House of Representatives and ultimately creating the Contract with America and being speaker of the House.

Experience has taught me that if we care about future generations, it is the duty of this generation -- now -- to be committed to real change.

Thursday is an historic opportunity to begin that change. It's our chance to give our children and grandchildren a country that is as safe, prosperous, innovative and free as the country our parents and grandparents worked and fought to give us.

I hope you'll join us.

  Your friend,
  Newt Gingrich




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September 25, 2007 04:43 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Not surpruised, Duncan Hunter  42,

Fred  39,   McCain  37,  Gilmore and Brownback  36,   Romney  35,  Tom T   29,  Ron Paul  28,   Rudy  25,   Huckabee  23,  Biden  13,   Richardson  8,

Obama,  Edwards,  and Clinton  3,  and  Al Gore ZERO. 




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September 25, 2007 04:50 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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  • Ron Paul  36
  • John McCain  30
  • Tom Tancredo  27
  • Sam Brownback  25
  • Mike Huckabee  22
  • Duncan Hunter--Fred Thompson  20
  • Chris Dodd  16
  • Jim Gilmore  13
  • Rudy Giuliani  12
  • Kucinich--Clinton--Romney--Obama  11   Good conservative company for Romney there, hehe.
  • Gravel--Edwards  10
  • Richardson--Biden  5

 




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September 25, 2007 04:55 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I have a hard time believing that John McCain could score that high with my views.  But we disagree on the issue that is most important to me.  I could never, never vote for him.

As long as Tom Tancredo is in the race, he is my man.......  Duncan Hunter, second choice.

 

John McCain
Score: 51

Duncan Hunter
Score: 51

Tom Tancredo
Score: 48

Fred Thompson
Score: 44

Mike Huckabee
Score: 41

Jim Gilmore
Score: 41

Sam Brownback
Score: 41

Mitt Romney
Score: 36

Rudy Giuliani
Score: 31

Ron Paul
Score: 29

Joe Biden
Score: 19

Bill Richardson
Score: 12

Barack Obama
Score: 7

Hillary Clinton
Score: 7

John Edwards
Score: 7




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September 25, 2007 05:03 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Ron Paul came first with 30. Strange, this is the first time I took an online quiz that resulted in the candidate I'm actually voting for!


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September 25, 2007 05:26 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Mine was Tanc 37,  Hunter & McCain 30, Thompson 29, Brownback 27, Gilmore 24, Huckabee 23, Romney 21, Paul 19.


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September 25, 2007 05:39 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated September 25, 2007 05:41 PM
My top three were Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, and Fred Thompson in that order.  I didn't write down the numbers.  Had to check supper.  Duncan Hunter has been my top pick in all of the candidate pickers I've done.  Ron Paul came in last but I figured that.  Tongue out  The rest of the Republican candidates fell somewhere inbetween.


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September 25, 2007 05:43 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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txguy1 said:

I have a hard time believing that John McCain could score that high with my views.  But we disagree on the issue that is most important to me.  I could never, never vote for him.

As long as Tom Tancredo is in the race, he is my man.......  Duncan Hunter, second choice.

 

John McCain
Score: 51

Duncan Hunter
Score: 51

Tom Tancredo
Score: 48

Fred Thompson
Score: 44

Mike Huckabee
Score: 41

Jim Gilmore
Score: 41

Sam Brownback
Score: 41

Mitt Romney
Score: 36

Rudy Giuliani
Score: 31

Ron Paul
Score: 29

Joe Biden
Score: 19

Bill Richardson
Score: 12

Barack Obama
Score: 7

Hillary Clinton
Score: 7

John Edwards
Score: 7

I think after looking at several of these results, that it's McCain that has changed his views to match Hunter's and Tancredo's.




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September 25, 2007 05:48 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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McCain - 35  (Huh??)

Tancredo - 29 (Not surprising) 

 Biden & Richardson - 28 (What??)

 Paul - 27 (My guy finished 4th in my own poll??)

Huckabee, Hunter, Giuliani & Thompson - 25 (Huckabee & Hunter, OK...Thompson, Giuliani???) 

 

Then the rest...very interesting Patsy! 




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September 25, 2007 05:52 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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CasaWood said:

McCain - 35  (Huh??)

Tancredo - 29 (Not surprising) 

 Biden & Richardson - 28 (What??)

 Paul - 27 (My guy finished 4th in my own poll??)

Huckabee, Hunter, Giuliani & Thompson - 25 (Huckabee & Hunter, OK...Thompson, Giuliani???) 

 

Then the rest...very interesting Patsy! 

I rest my case on McCain.  But maybe you're rooting for the wrong guy??!!




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September 25, 2007 07:43 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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FireWing said:

I think after looking at several of these results, that it's McCain that has changed his views to match Hunter's and Tancredo's.

I think you are right, Firewing.




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Wish Gingrich would join the race...it would make things more interesting and perhaps even "rattle" that stupid  witch HITLARY.




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September 25, 2007 08:53 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Newt would win hands down. Check Hitlary's ratings as of yesterday:

'Feelings' poll finds voters cool to Hillary
By Donald Lambro, The Washington Times
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who has the highest negative ratings of any presidential candidate in the 2008 race, can add another voter designation to her image: the coldest.

The Gallup Poll recently asked voters to rank the candidates on a “feeling thermometer,” in which zero was the coldest and 100 was the warmest. The New York senator and Democratic front-runner was the “most polarized” of all the candidates in either party, according to the poll.

“Nearly as many Americans say she leaves them cold as say they feel warmly about her,” Gallup said. The poll showed 49 percent considered Mrs. Clinton a warm personality, but 44 percent thought she was “totally cold” and the remainder rated her as “neutral.”

Among the other presidential candidates, a majority expressed the warmest feelings about Sen. Barack Obama, Illinois Democrat. Former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, New York Republican; former Sen. John Edwards, North Carolina Democrat; and Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican, followed close behind.

“While Hillary Clinton’s warm ratings are higher than those of Edwards and McCain, her relatively high cold ratings suppress her overall mean score, pushing it below the 50-degree mark,” Gallup said.

“All this suggests that Obama, Edwards, Giuliani and McCain are slightly better positioned than Clinton to win the fall election” among the general electorate,” the polling organization said in an analysis of its findings.

The telephone poll of 1,001 adults was conducted Aug. 23-26 and has a margin of error of three percentage points.

The core of Mrs. Clinton’s strength is within her own party. She has led all of her rivals for the Democratic nomination since she officially announced her candidacy Jan. 20. She leads the Democratic pack in all the national presidential preference polls as well as in the major early primaries and caucuses, according to Chicago-based RealClearPolitics.com, an independent political Web site.

But Mrs. Clinton’s candidacy has been marked by high voter-disapproval scores, the highest of any of the major candidates, raising persistent questions within her party’s rank and file about her electability.

A recent national survey of 900 registered voters for Fox News by Opinion Dynamics Poll found that 49 percent had a favorable opinion of Mrs. Clinton, compared with 45 percent who had an unfavorable opinion of her. Mr. Obama was seen as far more likable, with a 51 percent favorability score versus a 25 percent unfavorable rating. Mrs. Clinton drew similarly high disapproval scores in other national presidential-preference polls this month, including an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll of 1,002 Americans on Sept. 7-10. The survey found that 44 percent had very positive or somewhat positive feelings about her. But nearly the same number, 42 percent, said they harbored very or somewhat negative feelings toward her.

Mrs. Clinton did receive some good news Sept. 15 when she was endorsed by retired Gen. Wesley K. Clark, who sought the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004 and whose military credentials could bolster her bid to be the first female commander in chief.

Mr. Clark, the former supreme allied commander of NATO, praised Mrs. Clinton as “a remarkable person” with the skills and experience to be president.

“She will be a great leader for the United States of America and a great commander in chief for the men and women in uniform,” Mr. Clark told reporters in a conference call with the former first lady.

Mrs. Clinton welcomed Mr. Clark’s endorsement as a “real sign of confidence” in her ability to lead the military as president. “He and I have been friends for 25 years, and I am deeply admiring of his leadership,” she said.

Mrs. Clinton also gained an endorsement from Sen. Debbie Stabenow of Michigan. The two women first met in the early 1980s when Mrs. Stabenow was a state representative and Mrs. Clinton was a child advocacy lawyer.

“I said, this is somebody I want to get to know because it was somebody whose values I share,” Mrs. Stabenow said.



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Jessica Alba 35

Milla Jovovich 24

Angelina Jolie 14

Pam Anderson 6

 




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it's all in the way the questons are put forth.. notice the questions on the war are very detailed and the answers give options where as the questions on things like Taxes, health care and abortion are all "all or nothing answers" when those questions could be more aptly answered if there were options to the answers. Taxes for example: you are pigeonhoiled into answering Yes/No to a question on the "Bush tax paln" when There are candidates out there that would like a national sales tax. There is no provision in the question for a national sales tax... basically this was set up by someone with a reason... i would no be surprised if it were set up with someone either directly or indirectly associated with McCain's campaign and that they "measured" the answers to get a favorable result. I would never vote for McCain!!!!! and he actually came out on the top in with my answers. The questions lead to a result!!!


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I would like to see more of the candidates open to the "Fair Tax" idea. At least look into it further before shoving it in the closet.  Have only heard interpretations of the Fair Tax from Neal Boortz- have not had time to actually read the book- but from his explanation, it sounds like a great way to reform our tax system so that it benefits and is fair to all tax brackets.

zman61- Wouldn't you like to see each candidate respond to a question about an important issue for longer than 60 seconds? I really want to hear what they have to say....written material is irrelevant....someone may have helped them draft the article and told them what to say. Longer responses would allow us to analyze each candidate to see if we think they would truly be effective as President and take care of some of our more "pressing" issues like border security and this NAU thing, the illegal situation and the ever present war on terror. Whoever gets the nomination is looking at a very full plate of "hot button" issues.




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