Why is it that people who do not know anything about Jesus or what He did and why, hate Him so much?

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Because He IS the one true God.  Everyone is scared of Islam, because they will cut your head off,  some god they have. 

Jesus is a threat.  Because He is real.  When you shine the light on the sinful nature of man, they don't want to hear it.  They are happy living the sinful life and sure don't want anyone to tell them it's not right.  Sometimes I believe these judges that let child molesters go, are probably child molesters themselves, so how can they judge someone who does the same thing they do.  So they give them probation. 

 

People do not want to believe that a human being, as he was sent into the world, could be so good as to love everyone regardless of their natures. They refuse to believe he did not lie, cheat, steal, or fornicate endlessly. They base this observation on their own natures, being lacking in the self control required to do the right thing. "Doing unto others as you would have done unto you"  has been paraphrased to their own liking, changing its entire meaning by the phrase "before they do unto you".

His tirade over the moneychangers in the temple was justified in that the temple was supposed to be God's home and it was being turned into a commercial enterprise. His view was to "render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and to God, the things that are God's.

It has become easier and more fashionable to believe in a devil that supplies all "good" things because you are not required to have any self control. You can indulge your every depravity.

Love (not meaning sexual lust), discipline, responsibility, "clean" living, is looked down on by the world today.

We are a nation of sheep, following the antics of entertainers and athletes and applauding them for whatever crime they perpetrate against humanity.

People want to do things their way,and fellowing Jesus is not in their plans because they think that they have to give up their lives. Not true but they fell they can get to God by  their  own means which they can not do on their own which brings us back to the hatred. Look what the early church did under his name. That people see as a God of hate, They fell that it easier not belive and then they do not have to answer to any one but them selfs. One Jesus {Yeshua} said to love your neighbor as your self. Two he said to Love God with your hole heart mine soul he Jesus said these were the two most important commmadments. I want all to see this and for them to ask him in to their lives. Jesus is not hate but love. Christ died so we could live. We that love him know this. Whom every hates him look at him and ask yourself this did he ever do anything to hurt you or was it someone that claimed to be a flower of him? If I have hurt anyone forgive me. I do not want anyone to hate our savior. Remember Jesus loves. So stop hating him. Embrace him for this will help you in your life. Your hate will desappear. That is why we are having so much trouble in the world people do not want to love it is easier to hate.

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Judging by the poor reception of this topic, I guess most people are too afraid or just too poor in spirit to acknowledge the Godhood and power of Jesus. There is no salvation except through Christ and it is at this time in history we need His help more than ever.

All Christian religions have been founded on His life, even though individuals have managed to put their own interpretations on the Bible, thus causing our divisions. But the time for division is over. We must resolve our differences and recognize that Jesus as the Son of God is God! At a time when people are searching in every corner, seeking something or someone to believe in, many have embraced the religions of political correctness and greed, amongst other aberrations. We have turned our backs as a nation on the basic concept of morality - "Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You". It is an All For One, and One For None" mentality and it is time to realize we are all God's children.

If someone displeases you, remind yourself that they, too, are a child of God. We are not an exclusive entity, the only one entitled to salvation.

And the hatred and fear continues:

 

Can I ask a question?

Why is it that if someone like me asks you if you would like to know more about my religion, most of you would slam the door in my face, but if the same was asked of me, and I tell you honestly that I am a Pagan, you automatically think that I'm in need of saving?

Why do I find Christians to be so demanding in their desire to convert? Why is it that when I politely decline the offer of "witnessing", I'm pulled into a vicious circle of hate? Why are there people on my lawn, holding prayer circles if I tell them nicely that I'm a Pagan?

Can you answer me that? On my thread I was greeted with hate, dissension, and persecution. But on a thread like this, it's considered "okay" for everyone to speak their view about Jesus EXCEPT for those that have a discerning opinion.

 

Now, Phil, if you find this in any way, shape, or form to be "trolling" or even off topic, then by all means delete it. Thanks, and I eagerly await your comments.

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heavans-venus19728- I am a christian and I get attacked for stating my views. Don't feel bad it comes with the territory.

I don't think they hate Jesus. I'm sure that they just don't like people who are "preachy."

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venus19728 said:

Can I ask a question?

Why is it that if someone like me asks you if you would like to know more about my religion, most of you would slam the door in my face, but if the same was asked of me, and I tell you honestly that I am a Pagan, you automatically think that I'm in need of saving?

Why do I find Christians to be so demanding in their desire to convert? Why is it that when I politely decline the offer of "witnessing", I'm pulled into a vicious circle of hate? Why are there people on my lawn, holding prayer circles if I tell them nicely that I'm a Pagan?

Can you answer me that? On my thread I was greeted with hate, dissension, and persecution. But on a thread like this, it's considered "okay" for everyone to speak their view about Jesus EXCEPT for those that have a discerning opinion.

 

Now, Phil, if you find this in any way, shape, or form to be "trolling" or even off topic, then by all means delete it. Thanks, and I eagerly await your comments.

 

Venus,

I thought we already addressed this issue. I am in no way shape or form trying to save you. That is not my job. You hav e made the descision to walk away from God which between you and Him.

You may find this hard to believe, but I just love you enough to tell you a truth you may have never heard, that's all. I will do that for anyone, not just you.

No, I don't consider you a troll. I consider you a friend and you are welcome on any thread without fear that I will attack you for what you  believe. You know, even Jesus said that He did not come to this world to condemn the world, what gives me, or any other Christian, the right or authority to condemn you? You need to get past that Venus, I am not your enemy.

Just as you wish everyone would keep an open mind about your religion, I wish you would open your mind to mine.

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Venus 19728:

Sorry to hear of your experiences with Christians. Maybe I oversimplify, but I believe we should all be tolerant of each others' beliefs. I will listen/read anything you might wish to express always keeping in mind that I have the free will to believe my own way as do you. There are just too many things going on in the world today to use our energy denigrating another's beliefs.

While we would like everyone to be of our own religion, we know this isn't going to happen, so tolerance and understanding is all we ask.

Being Catholic myself, I am continually being bashed through the media (news, television, movies) and also on these boards. But I have the right to not take it personally as I know my beliefs and my religion better than those who have just given it a cursory review. My religion is based on tolerance and love and this is the way I choose to live it.

To know Jesus is to love him.  For those that don't - then you're missing out on something really great.  But that's your choice.

  

 

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Domenico said: I don't think they hate Jesus. I'm sure that they just don't like people who are "preachy."

 

Domenico,

If we are true Christians, then we are also disciples (followers) of Christ. Jesus warned His disciples then, as He does His disciples of today, that it was going to hard and that people were going to hate us because of Him. Look at what Jesus said: "Behold I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves. But beware of men, for they will hand you over to the courts and scourge you in their synagogues; and you will even be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as testimony to them and to the to the Gentiles. But when they hand you over, do not worry about how or what you are to say; for it will be given you in that hour what you are to say. For it is not you who who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you...." "You will be hated by all because of My name, but it is the one who has endured to the end who will be saved." Mattew 10: 16-20, 22 NASB (bold added)

So then, what Jesus is saying is that people who who hate me for telling them about Jesus are not hating me, they are hating Jesus. You don't hear of hatred and violence toward Buddhists, Hinduism, Shintoism or any others that have nothing to do with Jesus Christ. Christians are the only ones being martyred for their faith, even today. Why is that? Because they believe in Jesus. When Christians are captured, what is the first thing their captors want them to do? Denounce their belief in Jesus.

So, people don't hate Christians, they hate Jesus.

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Check out the article on WND.com web site on "Gays" mock Jesus with Last Supper take off.  In San Francisco, no less.

I'm so sick of the out right sickness of these people attacking Jesus and getting away with it.  If they did that to Mohammad, they would have their heads cut off.

After all, there are no Gays in Iran........Ever wonder why?

RaChalet said:

Check out the article on WND.com web site on "Gays" mock Jesus with Last Supper take off.  In San Francisco, no less.

I'm so sick of the out right sickness of these people attacking Jesus and getting away with it.  If they did that to Mohammad, they would have their heads cut off.

After all, there are no Gays in Iran........Ever wonder why?

 

Have you ever heard of Sodom and Gamorah? I believe they exist today in San Frisico and Las Vegas; Los Angeles and New York, maybe? You know what happened to them.

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Jesus knew all about those people who would deny Him, he saw it all in the Garden of Gethsemane.  That's why he sweat blood, it was so stressful to see the terrible sins the world would commit and that which he was dying for.  The important thing is to pray for those who deny Jesus that they will find Him, and keep rejoicing in knowing that you have found Him and how glorious it is!   

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I don't hate jesus, in fact I don't  hate anyone  no matter  what thier actions.  I do see that the tendancie of so called "Chistians" usualy don't follow the Christ's teachings, and they usualy like to beat people over the head with a book that was put together by the council of Nicia and emperor Constantine.  Who conveiniantly left out any of the gossples that might undermine the power of the church over men or gave women any power or authority in the church or society.  All the while claiming it to be the ONLY words of God. 

It is human nature to have to be "Right" in what ever they do, be it belief systems or their actions  and most will defend that "Rightness"  to the extent of murder and war especialy when it comes to religion.   Any who truly understand the teaching of the Christ  might consider there might be more than one book of "Gods" words and that just because some one dosn't believe the way you do, dosn't condem them to anything.  If you think your beliefs or methods are "Better"or supperior or just work better than someone elses, prove it by example not by condemnation or judgment that most of you are so ready to lay on everyone who dosn't follow the same path as your selves. 

I would like to point out that sitting around on your duff allowing the corrupt/criminal Government to do as it pleases, or the "New World Order" to become the masters(on earth anyway) just because the book of Revalations says it will, is not the smartest thing.  I'd hate to have to explain why I let what I knew as wrong and against Gods children take place with out a fight, "but I thought thats what you wanted"? oops (and good luck with the Rapture thing)

 Venus beloved one, let the love of the Goddess you hold in your heart prevail, for it is the shield that make the spears and arrows of the judgment of others liken to a leaf in the wind.  Hold that love also for those who judge, for thier judgment will wiegh heavy on thier own hearts, and be a seperation from the creator.

The teachings of the Christ mandate that we love ourselves, for if we do not love ourselves we have not the capacity to love others. (Love others as you love thy self) 

Venus - - I cannot speak for others but - - as for me, my Jesus told me to give witness to Him to every living creature.  Does that mean that I hate you - - absolutely NOT.  Do I get a little over emotional on occassion about this?  You bet!  So Why?  Well, I believe God when He says in His word (the Bible) that I should love Him with all that I am and that I am to have NO other God to worship but only one - - the trinity - God/Jesus/the Holy Spirit.  When I see anyone praying to ANY other God or giving their loyalty and love to any other God - - well to me that is sin - - and it can keep you out of heaven and the reward of an eternal life WITHOUT pain. 

So what you perceive as hate toward yourself is actually love toward you - but fear for you that what you are doing will end up causing you eternal pain.  I do not want you to suffer!  Jesus said that He did and does not want ANY to go to hell.  The rules God made were made for our protection (like telling a child not to touch a hot stove)- - but God will abide by His rules and obey them.  The wages of sin (going against the rules) is death.  So Jesus came to die in your place - IF you accept Him.  That's love - - NOT hate.  If any Christian gets very emotional in telling you about the love of Jesus, we are trying to help you toward an eternity without pain and suffering.  How can you call that hate.  That is loving you completely  - - though I freely admitt that we (following Jesus example) may hate the sin that can keep you from heaven - - that too is because we love you and don't want to see that sin keep you from the love of God. 

Does that make sense to you at all??? 

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Tarkus said:

I don't hate jesus, in fact I don't  hate anyone  no matter  what thier actions.  I do see that the tendancie of so called "Chistians" usualy don't follow the Christ's teachings, and they usualy like to beat people over the head with a book that was put together by the council of Nicia and emperor Constantine.  Who conveiniantly left out any of the gossples that might undermine the power of the church over men or gave women any power or authority in the church or society.  All the while claiming it to be the ONLY words of God. 

It is human nature to have to be "Right" in what ever they do, be it belief systems or their actions  and most will defend that "Rightness"  to the extent of murder and war especialy when it comes to religion.   Any who truly understand the teaching of the Christ  might consider there might be more than one book of "Gods" words and that just because some one dosn't believe the way you do, dosn't condem them to anything.  If you think your beliefs or methods are "Better"or supperior or just work better than someone elses, prove it by example not by condemnation or judgment that most of you are so ready to lay on everyone who dosn't follow the same path as your selves. 

I would like to point out that sitting around on your duff allowing the corrupt/criminal Government to do as it pleases, or the "New World Order" to become the masters(on earth anyway) just because the book of Revalations says it will, is not the smartest thing.  I'd hate to have to explain why I let what I knew as wrong and against Gods children take place with out a fight, "but I thought thats what you wanted"? oops (and good luck with the Rapture thing)

 Venus beloved one, let the love of the Goddess you hold in your heart prevail, for it is the shield that make the spears and arrows of the judgment of others liken to a leaf in the wind.  Hold that love also for those who judge, for thier judgment will wiegh heavy on thier own hearts, and be a seperation from the creator.

The teachings of the Christ mandate that we love ourselves, for if we do not love ourselves we have not the capacity to love others. (Love others as you love thy self) 

 

Tarkus,

It is obvious that you  don't know the facts about the Bible as you would have us believe. The Evangalical Bible has never taken any books out of it for any reason. It was the Roman Catholic church who added the books of the Apocrypha which have been proven to contain writtings which contradicts God, His Character and the teachings of Jesus Christ.

There were several conucils, who were, by the way, comprised of Hebrew scholars who knew the Scri[ptures, who God led to decide which books of the Old Testament were to become part of the canon of Scripture. They looked for writtings which were obviously Inspired by God to be written for His purpose. They, after carefully studying the Apocrypha, decided that, although the Apocryphal books contained good historical and religious information, it also contained too many contradictions to be added to the canon of Scripture. So, the books of the Apocrypha were left out of the canon.

When concidering if a book should be added to the Bible, the council followed these principles:

1. Was the author of the book a Prophet, Apostle or did he have a close relationship with the Prophet or Apostle?

2. Is the book being accepted by the Body of Christ at large?

3. Did the book contain consistency of doctrineand orthodox teachings?

4. Did the book bear evidence of high moral and spiritual values that would reflec the work of the Holy Spirit?

The crucial thing to remember is that neither the early church nor any council determined the canon. It was God, and God alone, who determined which books belonged in the Bible. God simply convinced His followers of what He had already decided upon. There is no question that the human process of collecting the books of the Bible was flawed, but it was God in His sovereignty, dispite our ignorance and stubborness, who guided the church in recognizing which books had been inspired by Him and which one's were not. God says, "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work." 2 Timothy 3: 16-17 NASB (bold added) God, through His Word, exposes our sin, which is what most people object to, not for the purpose of condemnation, but to give people the opportunity to cmoe to repantance, and through that, begin a personal relationship with Him.

Jesus Himself said, "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved by Him." John 3: 17 NASB (bold added) Anyone who is a true Christian understands that if Jesus did not come to this world to condemn it, He certainly does not give the authority or right to anyone else to do it. As we saw in 2 Timoty 3: 16-17, only God, through His Word, has the ability to convict someone to repentance. Man has no such power.

You say it is human nature for us to want to be "right", even to the point of, as you say, murder---especially as it pertains to religion. I know of only one religion which resorts to murder and it is not Christianity. There is only One true God of creation who has never forced Himself on anyone who did not want to put their trust in Him, ever, nor has He ever ask His people to commit murder for the sake of being "right". God, in the Old Testament, commanded His people to wage war, in defense, against those who were palnning to destroy His people (those who had put their trust in Him and He had chosen).

God Himself speaks in the book of Exudus, "I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or the water under the earth. You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing lovinkindness to thousands, to those who love Me and keep my commandments." Exudus 20: 2-6 NASB (bold added) These are God's words, not mine or those of any other Chrsitian.

For me to say that my God is superior to anyone elses god would suggest that God was superior because I said so. That in itself would be placing me in the position of God which I do not ever do. God is Sovereign because He said so and because He has proven it through His Word, and if that were not enough, all we have to do is look around us----the proof is in creation itself.

What God, the Creator of this world, says is going to happen to this world through the books of Asaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, Matthew, 1 & 2 Thessalonians and Revelations, are going to happen regardless of what we do. As Christians, it is not our job to try to prevent it from happening, but make sure everyone is ready for the day it does. It's called, "eternal security". As Christians, our job is to spread the Godd News Gospel of Jesus Christ to all who do not know Him.

Let me ask you, do you know Him? I'm not asking if you know who He is because even Satan knows who He is, I'm asking if you know Him personally, if you've ever put you faith in Him.

Have a great day.

 

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