Why Was I Suspended?????

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Karonica said:

Dear Sean:

I'd like to find out why I was suspended for 3 days?  What post was inappropriate???  You stated that a written warning was given in the thread.  However, I have not been able to find a written reason and I don't believe that I did anything the was in direct violation to the rules of FireSociety.  

As a faithful member since February 6th and one who has networked with many to make them aware of FireSociety, I think I should have been given an explanation before this went public on the fourm.  You have my email address on file and could have contacted me.  I love being a part of the FireSociety family and if I did anything wrong, I apologize. 

God bless and I look forward to your response.

Respectfully,

Karonica

 

Karonica, At the beginning of these candidates threads Sean has given a short disclaimer that only publicized news articles or castings are acceptable.  Even so I don't think they are being adhered too with that much vigor unless what is put onto the thread is negative against the hopeful candidate.  I can direct you to a thread where a posting is NOT a news article, but within it there is no negative material.  So, guess that would be considered an original 1st. issue of a "news" article, even though it wasn't previously aired or published?

Karonica, most of the time the post is simply deleted by the moderator, or they are supposed to be.  It depends I think.   Let's put it this way.  There are discussions that are ignored in the Ron Paul and Tancredo forums unless we complain quite a bit.  If it's the Fred forum or the Mitt forum they get deleted before you can blink. 

The times I've noticed somebody being suspended was when they posted something negative about the candidate in the candidate's forum.   It doesn't have to be ugly, just negative. 

Gerald, if you see a discussion post in one of the candidate forums and it's not a news article or one of the allowed postings, start complaining like we did.  Fair is fair.  I seldom read the Ron Paul or Tancredo threads because I'm not interested but I was pointed to them by somebody else.  That's when I noticed the descrepency in how they were being handled.  The posts in the RP thread finally got deleted but I haven't been back to check since.

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Melinda in TN said:

Karonica, most of the time the post is simply deleted by the moderator, or they are supposed to be.  It depends I think.   Let's put it this way.  There are discussions that are ignored in the Ron Paul and Tancredo forums unless we complain quite a bit.  If it's the Fred forum or the Mitt forum they get deleted before you can blink. 

The times I've noticed somebody being suspended was when they posted something negative about the candidate in the candidate's forum.   It doesn't have to be ugly, just negative. 

Gerald, if you see a discussion post in one of the candidate forums and it's not a news article or one of the allowed postings, start complaining like we did.  Fair is fair.  I seldom read the Ron Paul or Tancredo threads because I'm not interested but I was pointed to them by somebody else.  That's when I noticed the descrepency in how they were being handled.  The posts in the RP thread finally got deleted but I haven't been back to check since.

 

Melinda in Tn.  As I see it, or I should say from my viewpoint, if both the good and bad cnot be put forth in the same place it really doesn't serve the person trying to be elected.  There needs to be statements issued and legitimate rebuttal on the same thread for it to be effective.  Otherwise it's a total bore.  What I posted when I was suspended were not even my own words, just a reference to other's belief's and opinions, which I deemed at the time as being a legitimate post. I even stated that they may or may not be credible, just to CMA.  That didn't work.  So, it comes down to the fact if you're not sure, don't post it.  That's freedom of speech FS style.  Abide by their rules or suffer the consequences, maybe?

                 As far as I can tell, it was due to a post in the Official candidate threads. This was undertaken by Sean; so please see him for further explanation.  These threads are for candidate news only, not discussion or debate.

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Glad to see you both back.

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Sean, I would like to see the negative post.  Can you email it to me.  They only post I made was about Mitt Romney which gave his voting record as Govenor of Mass.

The information in the report I posted about Mitt Romney was gleaned from public records, press accounts, internet web sites and research and personal observation from MassResistance, a grass-roots pro-family group that has observed Governor Romney for over a decade. They have analyzed his  legislation, met with his staff, lobbied for and against his agenda (depending what it is) and otherwise compiled considerable research on his administration.  All sources of information used was included in the post as well.

These issues included: Abortion, Homosexual Rights and Activism In Government, Homosexual Marriage,  Gun Control, Economic Issues, and Party Leadership,

I would think that FireSociety would want to see how he voted on these issues of importance to our members so we are completely aware of how he stands on issues.   

 

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                Karonica no negative posts can be made on the Official Candidate Threads. If your posts were negative in nature, that would be the reason. See Seans description of allowable postings at the beginnings of each such thread. This holds true for every "Official" candidate thread. Other threads are open for debate.

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(CM) Jason Baker said:                 Karonica no negative posts can be made on the Official Candidate Threads. If your posts were negative in nature, that would be the reason. See Seans description of allowable postings at the beginnings of each such thread. This holds true for every "Official" candidate thread. Other threads are open for debate.

Jason, discussions are not allowed in the candidate threads either according to Sean's rules.  We are only allowed to post articles, etc. not discussions.  People are not being suspended for discussions, just negative posts.  Discussions get deleted but the posters don't get banned.  A negative post doesn't necessarily have to be ugly, just negative.  I didn't get to see Gerald's or Karonica's post so I don't know what they said.

Gerald47, I personally would like for the supporters of the candidates in the official candidate threads to be allowed to discuss the articles but when you do that you leave the door open for the opposition to come in and attack the supporters and post negative and untrue postings.  That is why I don't post in the regular threads anymore.  If the other candidate supporters would post the truth it would be one thing but they don't.  They search the Net for every hit piece they can find about the candidate they don't like.  I did it to them also in retaliation for the lies they tell on Fred.  I posted negative stories about Ron Paul to show them that it can be done to all of them if you look hard enough.  It wasn't because I have any big thing against Ron Paul as a person, it's some of his supporters I can't stomach.  They are all over the place now posting lies about Fred, saying he's anti-gun, pro-abortion, a Globalist, etc. etc. etc. and none of is true.  I like having a forum where we can post articles about our favorite candidate without being attacked and have lies spread.  Lies and distortions can be spread in the regular forums if that is what they want to do.  They don't worry me anymore because it's obvious that Fred is way out on top and people that do their research can recognize their lies.  I'm not debating it with them any longer.

Now Jason, according to Sean's rules, there are discussions in the Tom Tancredo candidate thread that need to be deleted. 

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                       Will check it out Melinda.

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Melinda in TN said:

(CM) Jason Baker said:                 Karonica no negative posts can be made on the Official Candidate Threads. If your posts were negative in nature, that would be the reason. See Seans description of allowable postings at the beginnings of each such thread. This holds true for every "Official" candidate thread. Other threads are open for debate.

Jason, discussions are not allowed in the candidate threads either according to Sean's rules.  We are only allowed to post articles, etc. not discussions.  People are not being suspended for discussions, just negative posts.  Discussions get deleted but the posters don't get banned.  A negative post doesn't necessarily have to be ugly, just negative.  I didn't get to see Gerald's or Karonica's post so I don't know what they said.

Gerald47, I personally would like for the supporters of the candidates in the official candidate threads to be allowed to discuss the articles but when you do that you leave the door open for the opposition to come in and attack the supporters and post negative and untrue postings.  That is why I don't post in the regular threads anymore.  If the other candidate supporters would post the truth it would be one thing but they don't.  They search the Net for every hit piece they can find about the candidate they don't like.  I did it to them also in retaliation for the lies they tell on Fred.  I posted negative stories about Ron Paul to show them that it can be done to all of them if you look hard enough.  It wasn't because I have any big thing against Ron Paul as a person, it's some of his supporters I can't stomach.  They are all over the place now posting lies about Fred, saying he's anti-gun, pro-abortion, a Globalist, etc. etc. etc. and none of is true.  I like having a forum where we can post articles about our favorite candidate without being attacked and have lies spread.  Lies and distortions can be spread in the regular forums if that is what they want to do.  They don't worry me anymore because it's obvious that Fred is way out on top and people that do their research can recognize their lies.  I'm not debating it with them any longer.

Now Jason, according to Sean's rules, there are discussions in the Tom Tancredo candidate thread that need to be deleted. 

 

If you want to prove they are lies, debunk them. To do that you have to look at the sources provided by the people making the assertions and show that these sources are false, unreliable, forged, or otherwise suspect. But we need evidence and not just opinion. People making these assertions about Fred are providing compelling evidence which would require compelling evidence to overcome.

(CM) Jason Baker said:                 Karonica no negative posts can be made on the Official Candidate Threads. If your posts were negative in nature, that would be the reason. See Seans description of allowable postings at the beginnings of each such thread. This holds true for every "Official" candidate thread. Other threads are open for debate.

So it's ok to post the article on another thread that's not the Official Candidate Thread??????

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Karonica said:

(CM) Jason Baker said:                 Karonica no negative posts can be made on the Official Candidate Threads. If your posts were negative in nature, that would be the reason. See Seans description of allowable postings at the beginnings of each such thread. This holds true for every "Official" candidate thread. Other threads are open for debate.

So it's ok to post the article on another thread that's not the Official Candidate Thread??????

 

Jason, If I post a news youtube of an interview with a candidate, and it is more or less benign, but the commentary afterwards by a moderator and open disscussion is anti that candidate that makes it a negative posting on my part? So, we will now be required to submit for approval what is and what is not acceptable material before it can be posted?  Hmmmmmm! So American.

Geez, G47, Make your own thread and post ANYTHING you want on it!!!!!!!!

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It appears to me that the only one who gets to post in the Mitt Romney Candidate Thread is FireWing.  Everyone else's posts have been deleted.  Something seems fishy about that.  A one-sided debate brings forth deception but the other side may expose deception and brings forth truth. 

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Karonica,  I would be happy to see others post positive, supportive articles on Mitt's official thread also.  They are, one more time, NOT debate threads.  Just make your own thread and post whatever you want on it and debate your little heart out! 

Where are your evening prayers lately?  I'm missing them.

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John, the lies have been debunked over and over and over, some of them probably before you joined, but the Ron Paul supporters do not want to hear the truth.  I'm through debunking anything with this group.   The only place they can find "news" that is negative to Fred is on liberal sites, liberal blogs, and sites set up by supporters of the other GOP candidates that have the most to lose with Fred in the race.  What does that tell you?  I've provided proof and so has 1MadCookie, Patsy, FireWing, MrT, Jim from Texas, and many others and they just block it out, or worse, twist it to suit their twisted view of Fred.  I'm done.  They can stroke each other's fanatical beliefs all they want about Ron Paul.  There are enough of us to take Fred all the way to the top without them.  I'm convinced that when people start hearing what Fred says and they see him in person, they will know he is everything we have said he is.  I will continue to post my pro-Fred articles in the Fred candidate thread and let them read for themselves, and they do read it.

Jason, thanks.  I returned to the Tancredo thread after I mentioned it in here and the discussions were deleted.  My browser must not have refreshed before I posted it in there.  I will let you know if it happens again though.

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                  Read Sean's rules at the begininng of each "Official" candidate thread. You can debate on any other thread til your fingertips bleed. These threads were started to give a place for the posting of candidate news, appearences, video, etc...... The same holds true for each and every candidate. If you want to post negative video, comment, etc..................like Firewing said start a thread or post on the many existing ones blasting every candidate.   I too miss your prayer postings Karonica. I agree with Sean's idea of having a place to post positive info on your candidate of choice without a verbal rumble breaking out.

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Well, the reason I don't post much on FS anymore is because I feel Sean sometimes like to be a dicator.  I have no probably with the moderators they are great.  Am I going to be suspended Sean for speaking my mind and expressing my first admendment rights?

I think on the offical threads of the candidates there should be a warning first.  The threads that are not within the rules are deleted automatically.  A lot of people don't read Seans's post of warning.