Why I can't support Fred Thompson

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August 25, 2007 04:41 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I can not support anyone who uses the term moderate even if to modify the word conservative. I can not support a candidate who is not forth right and timely on the issues. I can not support a candidate who has not yet taken a stand on internal enforcement on immiration. Because Fred Thompson has been exploring a run long enough, he should already have addressed the immigration issue thoroughly. Therefore I will noot vote for him.
August 25, 2007 05:04 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I can support Fred Thompson. I think he would make a great candidate and would beat Hillary if he wins the nomination. He stands firmly on conservative values.


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August 25, 2007 05:13 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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But he will lose most of the conservative vote that cares truly about illegal immigration. Where is his voice in this hunt? I left the school child mentality and support for popularity's sake a long time ago.
August 25, 2007 05:24 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I cannot support someone whose supporters use "lol" in every post.


-What is essential in war is victory, not prolonged operations. -Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win. -There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare. -quotes from the Art of War by Sun Tzu, 6th century BC Chinese General and war strategist.
August 25, 2007 05:28 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I have never used it on even  one post on FireSociety or anywhere else, but that does not mean there is anything wrong with it. I had to look it up on the internet to see what it means. Nothing wrong with having to do that either.
August 25, 2007 05:30 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I was referring to 1MadCookie and TrackerDude, John.


-What is essential in war is victory, not prolonged operations. -Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win. -There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare. -quotes from the Art of War by Sun Tzu, 6th century BC Chinese General and war strategist.
August 25, 2007 05:31 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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You guys are funny. This is becomming a war over who should be president...lol Excuse me Domenico.


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August 25, 2007 05:32 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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lol is a chuckle after your statement as though you found a point funny.


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August 25, 2007 05:37 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated August 25, 2007 05:38 PM
LOL, BTW the NAU and SPP are DOA ASAP if TT wins in 08? NOT. ROTFLMAO


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August 25, 2007 05:38 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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MrT said: I can support Fred Thompson. I think he would make a great candidate and would beat Hillary if he wins the nomination. He stands firmly on conservative values.

 

I think you are wrong.  There are too many conservatives who are fed up with the lesser of evils.  Fred Thompson will not get their vote in the primary, and will not vote in the general election if Fred Thompson wins the nomination.  I am not saying he will not win the nomination, but his votes will not come from conservative voters with conservative values; they will come from couch potatoes voting for that L&O guy.

Fred Thompson is a warmed over George Bush and will take right up where George Bush leaves off.  I Frankly would just as soon see Hillary in the White House as Fred Thompson.  She or he cannot do a hell of a lot without the approval of congress.

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August 25, 2007 05:40 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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MrT said: I can support Fred Thompson. I think he would make a great candidate and would beat Hillary if he wins the nomination. He stands firmly on conservative values.

 

I am a I'm with Fred'er because of exactly what you just said.  So what if he loses the third party mentality vote.  That's not a big enough loss to matter one iota.  Fred won't lose a single real conservative voter's vote.  And he sure doesn't need to be identified with right-winged John Birch Society type manifestos.  Don't you know that the dems and their lib followers would have a field day with that sort of madness shadowing his campaign.  I say let third party types run as third party candidates and not try to confuse the voting public by their supporters calling their candidates republicans.




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August 25, 2007 05:43 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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MrT said: the NAU and SPP are DOA ASAP if TT wins in 08? NOT. ROTFLMAO

If you are saying NAU and SPP will not be DOA ASAP if Tom Tancredo wins in '08.  I disagree with you also..... to the point where it would take a congressional overide of a veto.

Those issues are too serious to laugh about.

 

 




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August 25, 2007 05:45 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I knew you weren't referring to me, but I am happy that the posters referred to are identified. I am tired of the political gamesmanship that keeps Americans in the dark and furthers the interests of big money. If Fred Thompson does not want to be lumped in with that group on illegal immigration, he must move to take his positions out of the dark. For me it is already much too late.

This issue (illegal immigration) did not begin this year. If he could not take a stand prior to this point on internal security, he is status quo. And I just have the gut feeling that he is business as usual and is the candidate big money is willing to give us in the hopes of appeasing us. I wish I was wrong on this, but I have learned to trust my gut level reactions when they cry out danger.

August 25, 2007 05:52 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated August 25, 2007 05:54 PM

I cannot vote for anyone with any connection to the CFR.  Because Fred Thompson is a long time member of that organization and said to have very deep roots in that organization I WILL NOT vote for him, either in the primary or in the General Election. 

I will not vote for him in the primary election because of the 'testing the waters' game he has been playing for 6 months and the only definate thing I have read that he said, or heard that he said was "Absolutely" when asked if he would sign the FAIRTAX bill.  This only happened recently.  Prior to that his statements were 'we need a change to the way we collect taxes', or something similar.

'A sovereign nation must have secure borders' does not mean 'I will secure these borders or protect this nation's sovereignty'.  'we need to have a fence' does not mean 'I will build that fence'.

His supporters have tried to explain what he meant, but Fred Thompson has not explained what he meant when he said "There are things I want to do that only a President can do".

 




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August 25, 2007 05:53 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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-Henry Kissinger, 1994

"Some even believe we (Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure---one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
-David Rockefeller, in 2002 autobiography

 

I believe this is the main fellow of the CFR.  This is not for me.  My family have always voted Republican and we are voting for Tom Tancredo.   

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August 25, 2007 05:53 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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"lol" is a stupid remark orginating in AOL chatrrooms and is commonly seen as an indicator of childishness that has now become just another anoying internet meme. Back to the point... Fred Thompson is not a true conservative. The last true conservative was Barry Goldwater.


-What is essential in war is victory, not prolonged operations. -Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win. -There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare. -quotes from the Art of War by Sun Tzu, 6th century BC Chinese General and war strategist.
August 25, 2007 05:54 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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John, I read on another thread your posts that you haven't made up your mind about any candidate and aren't a Fred Thompson basher.  You told Melinda you are seeking open discussion about Fred's candidacy and are giving him serious consideration.  Are you some kind of proof that evolution is true and it happens quickly?  LOL, or are your stepped on toes making you cry ouch and bringing out the truth about yourself which you tried to conceal in your other posts on that thread I mentioned?

1MadCookie did come out punching, didn't he?  Straight arrow shots to the heart of Fred's political detractors!  You gotta' love it.




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August 25, 2007 06:06 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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That was before I gave it more thought. I have been concerned about these issues for many years as Tancredo has been. Fred would have to jump through some massive hoops to convince me he is as concerned about illegal immigration as I require a candidate to be to get my vote. Realistically, I had hopes for Fred Thompson, but why hasn't he spoken out even a little on internal enforcement. He only says what he thinks he has to to keep the broad public appeased. But I can not be fooled or appeased. That is the huge lesson from my disappointment with George Bush on this issue.
August 25, 2007 06:10 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated September 8, 2007 11:11 PM
One thing that brought me focus in my thinking is the vigor in which Fred Thompson supporters have attacked Tom Tancredo and his supporters on these forums. It demonstrates the fear that big money has of Tom Tancredo and the trust big money has in Fred Thompson.
August 25, 2007 06:19 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Domenico said: "lol" is a stupid remark orginating in AOL chatrrooms and is commonly seen as an indicator of childishness that has now become just another anoying internet meme. Back to the point... Fred Thompson is not a true conservative. The last true conservative was Barry Goldwater.

 

10-4 on Barry Goldwater. 


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