Straw Poll Results Romney, Huckabee, Brownback, Tancredo.....

Thanks Tommygarage,I honestly cannot understand why people voted for Romney,Huckabee,and Brownback! The last two are definately for Amnestys if they truly look at the things they have said and done,and Romney has a very poor record no matter what he says now!Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Must have been the big tent(s), music, barbecue and other freebees along with the  hype of the day.   Interesting what motivates people to do what they do. Just arent thinking clearly about what is happening in the country and which  candidates really do have their best interests at heart.   It seems as though it was more of an entertainment issue on a Saturday.

They all three are definitely on and off the amnesty train, depending on circumstances.  Brownback showed his colors with his criticism of Tom Tancredo and a supposed donation a few weeks ago, as well as his part in the shamnesty vote.  Huckabee is definitely speaking amnesty, and Romney goes back and forth.  All three of them skirted away from the illegal issue in their speeches.

 I second the Grrrrrrrrrr!

Kaksdesign said:

Must have been the big tent(s), music, barbecue and other freebees along with the  hype of the day.   Interesting what motivates people to do what they do. Just arent thinking clearly about what is happening in the country and which  candidates really do have their best interests at heart.   It seems as though it was more of an entertainment issue on a Saturday.

They all three are definitely on and off the amnesty train, depending on circumstances.  Brownback showed his colors with his criticism of Tom Tancredo and a supposed donation a few weeks ago, as well as his part in the shamnesty vote.  Huckabee is definitely speaking amnesty, and Romney goes back and forth.  All three of them skirted away from the illegal issue in their speeches.

 I second the Grrrrrrrrrr!

   I was Born and Raised in Iowa and know that they are a very well educated lot and family loving people.  But they are not the most informed voters as a whole.    At least 60 % of them are kind of blind to the important big picture national issues.   Notice I did not say all.  Some of them really get it, and could never be bought by a pulled pork sandwich from a RINO.   ;-)

http://www.mittromney.com/homepage

check this link out and click on the spanish language link in the upper right corner to see what this guy is really all about. If that's what you people want...hey, have at it. But, please don't continue to represent yourselves as being opposed to illegal alien invaders.

FireWing said: I don't understand why people voted for anyone besides Romney.  Only one that was presidential.

What do you think Tommy? 

First thing I noticed and it really made me feel bad for the guy is that Duncan Hunter did not get much support.  Even though Tancredo is my candidate 100% I see Rep Hunter as a straight up guy with a solid message and record on Defense, Illegal Immigration, Pro-America manufacturing base vs chinese cheaters. 

I wonder if there are some who take Bay Buchanan heading up Rep Tancredo's campaign as an endorsement from the Great Pro-America anti-NAFTA KING Himself, Pat Buchanan. 

Well, I hate to say it but tonight was not a great victory for the anti-illegal immigration movement.  But Rep Tancredo's Borders, Language, Culture, Fair Tax, Smaller Government routine achieved a respectable result.  3rd place would have been better.  But to keep it in perspective as Pro-Life as Rep Tancredo is it is all Senator Brownback is, no one is more articulate about it than Gov Huckabee and Iowa has a history of rewarding champions of that issue i.e. Pat Robertson. 

But all is not lost as it was a great victory for the FairTax movement and that is a de facto anti-illegal measure as the cost of labor is then greatly equalized, especially at the lower end.  Also, regardless of how income is earned the taxpayer base is broadened to capture those who do not pay now. 

Do illegals want to work for 23% less and pay toward their own upkeep,

SovereignMan 

Only 626 votes separated number two and number four (Tom).  I know why Huckabee and Brownback got number two and three spots--it's due to media push in IA--that's all that was mentioned the last couple of days--other candidates were not even mentioned.  For the life of me I can't understand why they were PUSHING those two either.  I thought Paul would do better.  It sounds like Tom is staying--received an email a bit ago saying "Fasten your seat belt, we're blasting off".  Email stated media pundits looked shocked when he got number four place.

I don't think Romney looks presidential-I'd describe him more as "slick" with support by people/corps with mucho money.  I don't trust his message as he tends to vascillate. 

Good grief! It's no wonder Romney did so well!! It's not rocket science. He had the money to bus hundreds of supporters IN. That much was admitted before the event even began! That's why he was so certain he would "win".

 Tom, Paul, and Hunter had to depend on true volunteers who could get themselves there. The fact that they did as well as they did under the circumstances is amazing.

FireWing said: One who looks and acts like he can lead a nation.

    Big Mistake in my opinion.  Many failures in the past have looked the part and crumbled in the crunch.  

    Lincoln, Washington, Reagan, Teddy Roosevelt , Harry Truman, were consistent men of principle that stood on them when it counted.  

   It is early in the game, we owe it to ourselves to investigate the records and consistency of these candidates for the highest office of our blessed United States and find the one who can instill the courage needed to keep us free in our homes and possessions. 

   It is not a beauty contest,  It is much more important that they have a consistent message and actually CAN lead and defend a nation and the principles that made her great.

SovereignMan said:

What do you think Tommy? 

First thing I noticed and it really made me feel bad for the guy is that Duncan Hunter did not get much support.  Even though Tancredo is my candidate 100% I see Rep Hunter as a straight up guy with a solid message and record on Defense, Illegal Immigration, Pro-America manufacturing base vs chinese cheaters. 

I wonder if there are some who take Bay Buchanan heading up Rep Tancredo's campaign as an endorsement from the Great Pro-America anti-NAFTA KING Himself, Pat Buchanan. 

Well, I hate to say it but tonight was not a great victory for the anti-illegal immigration movement.  But Rep Tancredo's Borders, Language, Culture, Fair Tax, Smaller Government routine achieved a respectable result.  3rd place would have been better.  But to keep it in perspective as Pro-Life as Rep Tancredo is it is all Senator Brownback is, no one is more articulate about it than Gov Huckabee and Iowa has a history of rewarding champions of that issue i.e. Pat Robertson. 

But all is not lost as it was a great victory for the FairTax movement and that is a de facto anti-illegal measure as the cost of labor is then greatly equalized, especially at the lower end.  Also, regardless of how income is earned the taxpayer base is broadened to capture those who do not pay now. 

Do illegals want to work for 23% less and pay toward their own upkeep,

SovereignMan 

   I too was disappointed the Duncan Hunter did not score higher in this.  He is a good speaker and has been very consistently conservative over the years.  I have followed him since the mid nineties when he would be a guest on the Micheal Reagan radio show.  Always have thought highly of him.   I wonder how much money he spent on the poll ?   Agree he has pretty much the same message as Tancredo albeit sometimes a bit more polished as a speaker.    I really think that Tancredo got the jump on it and is cancelling him out.   

    I am excited to watch this play out and hopeful that the Reps get us someone we can get excited about.   The clamoring over third party candidates stealing votes is not really true.  Perot registered millions who were previously disgusted, uninvolved and were not about to vote for either party candidate.  It has been Independent candidates that seem to try and really fill the vacuum that was left by Reagan.  Only a fraction of the eligble voters participate and I want them educated and involved so we can get some better candidates. 

I agree about Duncan Hunter as well.  He is a true and sincere man, and he has the best interest of the country at heart.  I can see him in a cabinet role and hope that he will be offered that position or something else if Tom Tancredo is able to become the leading candidate.  I hate to see true patriots left by the wayside. 

It is true about the issues with Brownback and Huckabee and how a block of voters will support a candidate because of that issue, and I also agree about Romney and the look of a president.  It is the belief and loyalty to the true issues facing a country, along with the ability to attack those issues without sidestepping them,  that means something. Men like Tom Tancredo, Duncan Hunter have that degree of loyalty.  

I received the email from Tom as well, and I know that others have and will support him in the coming months.

Many thoughts are going through my own mind.  First is the "big three".  Are Romney's votes a conglomerate of all three since neither Guiliani nor McCain put much into it, or are Guliani and McCain finished?

Huckabee seems like a nice fellow in an ineffectual way, with good thoughts but probably not much spine.  I also consider the combined votes of Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo, Duncan Hunter too, though his showing was disappointing.  They represent those with the courage for change.  At least they radically outscored anything the news media has been willing to admit. 

My biggest concern of course, is whether the American people still possess any respect for the Constitution, whether they have the courage to accept liberty and its other side, responsibility, or whether they have grown so dependent upon the nanny state to make their decisions and take care of them that we, as a nation, have lost our will to be free.  That, of course, would spell the end of freedom and our decent into slavery.

Elections are still more than a year away.  Those of us who are truly American and not globalist, have our work cut out for us if we are to restore this once great nation to the land of Faith and of Freedom that she was born to be.  God have mercy upon future generations of chip implanted serfs if we fail.

John McCain at #10 was good news.  I wonder how the "pundits" are going to spin Rudy and McCain coming in at 8th and 10th, when they have them nation wide at 1st and 3rd.

Glad to see Tom at 4th and the only thing is that I wish Duncan Hunter was 5th.  I really like both Tom and Duncan.  I saw Brownback and Huckabee speak and was not as impressed as with the Tom and Duncan speeches.

I do agree though that we still have a strong fight against the NAU and the SPP and all the sneaky "amenesty" bills coming in attached to other bills or ones like the Ag Farm Bill.  I think the next year and a half are going to be the make it or break it time for America.