100 Reasons why evolution is stupid

by Kent Hovind

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8460724380865730143

wow look at that my computer has a built in lie dector...wont let me go to a sit that is based off of lies...and guess what i cant go to this site off of your link

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first of all i must say i really dont need to be save thanks though second at the very begning he discounts him self because he says he beleivs in the bible 100% and sorry but i dont trust any one that kooky

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Years ago I heard a quote from Albert Einstein.  It went something like this:  "There is no question about whether God created the universe.  The question is, did He have a choice?"  Whether one subscribes to the big bang, or any other theory, who is to say whether or not God had a hand in setting whatever theory one has into motion.

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leftwich. No offense but your postings would be more readable if you'd clean up your sentence structure just a bit. You know, spelling, etc.. As is, they're a bit hard to decipher. Please don't take that as an insult, rather as constructive criticism so your postings will be more credible as well as understandable.

This thread is not about you being saved, you've made it obvious in numerous threads that you don't care about God. What Dr. Hovind is rationally and intelligently pointing out is that there are only 2 choices. Either you believe the Bible is 100% indisputable word of God, or you chose the path of evolution-atheism. You're on one side or the other. Of course he chooses God's creation, as Darwin chose evolution. If you choose "crevolution", that is explained in micro evolution, i.e., change does occur like different breeds of dogs, but they are all still dogs. So, what is it, evolution or God's creation? Take a position.

I'm sure also one could be unsure about it in that he doesn't believe in creation or evolution. Until he's convinced one way or the other that person should be an observer until his convictions put him on a side.

As for trust, well the same could be espoused by someone that believes God over one that is an evolutionist. Trust is not the issue as much as presenting credible evidence. Aside from the fact Dr. Hovind is a Christian look at his evidence and make your decision based upon that and not his personal belief. Is this not the very thing that pagans desire. Much of what Dr. Hovind presents brings up very hard to refute evidence against evolution. That to me puts the responsibility on the evolutionist to explain just how these are possible. For example petrified tress vertically positioned through different strata of rock, or men's footprints in the same rock as a dinosaur, plus others. This gets to the heart of the matter and addresses the real situation. Hopefully that makes it much clearer?

Patsy said: Years ago I heard a quote from Albert Einstein. It went something like this: "There is no question about whether God created the universe. The question is, did He have a choice?" Whether one subscribes to the big bang, or any other theory, who is to say whether or not God had a hand in setting whatever theory one has into motion.

 

Remember as kids we were presented with the question "If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it does it make a noise?" When God spoke into existence via Divine fiat "Let there be Light", was that accompanied with sound? Could that in itself be a, the big bang? If indeed it was, that is all the more reason to believe that God is the Alpha and the Omega. He is the very cause of all. Then of course logically speaking, the remainder of creation must likewise be His doing. Where all of this becomes murky is when the evolutionist-atheist comes in and says it all is billions of years old. That is the tell a lie long enough and people will eventually believe it scenario. Fortuately if one does open minded research, the evolutionist theory doesn't work, it has too many loopholes. Dr. Hovind uses what is found in nature and backs it scripturally to refute the atheistic belief. "What one believes does determine how one behaves" Therefore if you are a Christian, pray about it, listen to Dr. Hovind and find out for yourself if this is indeed what you believe. Also, just don't accept the evolutionists on face value, any more than those who believe God is the creator of all would want others to just accept what we say on face value. Some more redily come to believe than others, and some may never believe. Those are decisions made between the individual and their Creator. Those of us that do believe , like Dr. Hovind, just strive to present facts that are in nature and then show how that is supported Biblically.

 

 

 

Sorry, Gerald, but this Christian does not believe that belief in God and belief in evolution are mutually exclusive.  It is impossible to hear a baby cry, see a sunset, watch the ocean, see the Grand Canyon, or enjoy the change of seasons, etc. without seeing the Hand of God in everything.  But far be it from me to try to convince you or anyone else what you should believe.  That is YOUR choice.  I just don't happen to believe the Bible is something that is 100% infallible.  It was, after all, written by mere mortals speaking to a very elementary and simple people.  I'm no more inclined to believe Dr. Hovind, anymore than I believe the scientists talking about global warming.

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Even the pope believes that evolution seems grounded in science. Keep the faith. That is why we call it faith. But do not waste your time with the same type of thinking fundamentalist muslims have. The judeo-christian concept of the world is big enough to include science ublike islam.

John Wunderlich said: Even the pope believes that evolution seems grounded in science. Keep the faith. That is why we call it faith. But do not waste your time with the same type of thinking fundamentalist muslims have. The judeo-christian concept of the world is big enough to include science ublike islam.

 

The Pope's word is NOT infallible.  If he is lead astray that is his problem. Yes!, there are changes that do take place.  Ponies-horses-Clydsdales, or Great Danes-Chihuahua's.  This is not evolution.  FeedFwd, aptly pointed out in another similar thread that the second law of thermodynamics just does not lend any credence whatsoever to evolution. In the sense life evolved from some sort of spontaneous action in a primordial tidal pool that had been setting just long enough, hundreds of millions of years, and then BAM! all of a sudden the right conditions for life to just happen did, and from that ooze, or whatever it is supposed to be, the laws of thermodynamics and the laws of nature are disregarded and all life just "evolved".  I'd have to sit down and have a one on one with the Pope to see if this is what he really believes or not.

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What is important is the part called faith. That is more important and is why we do not refer to religion as science. Science and religion have different roles in our society and civilization and the one should not interfere with the other. If God allows, science may answer many unanswered scientifuc mysteries.

I don't see how it should be. Faith is faith, and science is science. Deciding why each is important in its own way will put one on the right road to faith, knowledge, and wisdom.

hamihaha said:

Will it be hard to stay Christian when i profoundly believe in evolution?

 

One can not be a true Christian and not believe the entire Bible as the true, inerrant, infallible Word of God. One can not pick and  choose what to believe in the Bible. One either believes the entire Bible or none of the Bible.

God Created the heavens and the earth and all that dwells in it, on it and around it. He said it, I believe it and that settles it. He is not a liar and has the Power to do exactly what He said He did. If one does not believe in God's power to do that, then that person does not believe in God.

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You sound more like a radical Muslim than an enlightened Christian. I thought that way when I was four, five, and six years old. There are ways that the Bible can be absolutely true without every detail stacking up to scientific scrutiny. And I am not talking about the details, rather I am talking about the message.

Don't lose the message for the details as Muslims do. By the way, you can believe how and what you want and that is fine with me. But if you want to get what is truly important reinstituted in this country, you must be willing to work with non-funamentalist Christians.

I am not trying to speak harshly, but rather frankly about how I and many others believe after weighing the evidence at our disposal. You are right, God is not a liar, but humans are. So far as I know, I have not had any direct communication from God and his word has come only through other humans to me.  And most if not all of them them were not infallible in some human way or another. I guess my simple mind cannot conceive enough to satisfy everybody.

Believing the Bible literally for every passage is an insult to the Word of God in my opinion. There are so many metaphors and passages with symbolic meaning that by reading everything literally, you deny yourself half of what has been revealed.

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hamihaha said:

Will it be hard to stay Christian when i profoundly believe in evolution?

 

yes, because evolution is in direct conflict with bible.

besides, if evolution is true, there would be no point to be a christian, or to believe in God - there is no room for God in evolution anyway, everything just happened by chance billions of years ago.

By the way, it is the exact goal of evolution - to deny God existence, to make God useless. I mean, what's God for if evolution is true?

For those of you believe in some kind of theistic evolution, that God created the world through evolution. Only a dumb god would use such cruel way to creation the world. Don't you think God can create everything perfect right in the beginning instead of let them "evolve"?

"I don't see how it should be. Faith is faith, and science is science. Deciding why each is important in its own way will put one on the right road to faith, knowledge, and wisdom."

not the first time I heard this point, "it is religion against science". What do people imply just by this statement? They imply evolution is part of science, but it is not. You can BELIEVE it if you want, but it is not science. Just people put evolution in science textbook doesn't make it science.

Like Henry Horris said, people believe in evolution because they want to, not because it is true, or the "evidence". In term of faith, evolution needed even more faith to believe the whole universe existed just by chance.

Good post Kmcheng. 

thanks