"It's Fred Thompson's Race to Lose" according to Dr. Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission

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July 13, 2007 04:26 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Key Evangelical Leader Tells [CBN] Brody File: 'It's Fred Thompson's Race to Lose'
Christian Broadcasting Network ^ | July 12, 2007 | David Brody

Fred Thompson just got some encouraging news. Dr. Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission tells The Brody File the following:

"My assessment is that at this moment in time it is Fred Thompson's race to lose. It may be a convergence of the right man, in the right place and at the right time. I have never seen anything like this grassroots swell for Thompson. I'm not speaking for Southern Baptists but I do believe I have my hand on the pulse of Southern Baptists and I think I know where the consensus is."

Strong words. Dr. Land doesn't endorse candidates but he is a powerful figure in Evangelical circles. His words matter. So why the fascination with Thompson? Land told me there are a lot of factors. He believes electability is extremely important and thinks that Thompson may be the best social conservative candidate right now to beat Hillary Clinton.

He says just look at the head to head polling between the two of them. But there's more. You know, it was Land that came up with the term, "Southern-Fried Reagan" when describing Thompson. So now he tells me the following:

"He has an ability to connect with people. He comes from small town America where he can appeal to NASCAR dads, Security moms, and Reagan Democrats."

The Brody File is always trying to give it to you straight so let me do so here. Dr. Land is not the only Evangelical leader to feel this way. Others that I have talked to haven't gone on record but they like what they see from Thompson.

This has got to be a major concern for Mitt Romney…not to mention frustrating. Here is Romney working hard on the campaign trail for months and securing key conservatives along the way. He's put out policy initiatives, talked about the culture war, etc. Thompson skips along singing a happy tune because he's not officially in yet.

Romney needs some of those Evangelical heavyweights. Having them in his hip pocket is crucial. It would give him cover on the Mormon issue. It's a long race but I'm hearing that you can expect some of these national leaders to come out by the fall with who they like. Time is of the essence.




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July 13, 2007 06:26 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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If he thinks the "greater American public" is going to vote for a former Nixon supporter, he has another think coming!
July 13, 2007 06:40 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Dick Morris said on FOX last night that Fred had has a whole bunch of baggage and that when he announces the long knives will come out!
July 13, 2007 06:44 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Yes, and Hillary is turning the wheel to sharpen the blades.


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July 13, 2007 09:17 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I can't figure out why he keeps delaying his announcement.  I read last night that he has now put it off until August.

 




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July 13, 2007 10:33 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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nancy sivill said: Dick Morris said on FOX last night that Fred had has a whole bunch of baggage and that when he announces the long knives will come out!

 

That is right!  Dick Morris is a d*ck!  I would not put my trust into a former Clinton adviser.  I here him on the radio, spilling all his propangda.  He thinks he is always right, and that he knows everything!  All the Bush bashers take a good look at this a-hole (Dick Morris)?  Everything that comes out of his mouth is garbage!  I forgot all you Bush bashers like that!  Hey FDT has not even declared yet and the liberals are attacking his character!  That is nothing knew!

July 13, 2007 10:52 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Fred Thompson is much smarter than the rest of theses wannabees he is not having to spend a bunch of money and deal with all of the federal filings that the others are having to keep up to date. Like I have said there is a knight in shining armor coming. It sure as hell is not McCain and Guiliana. I think Sean Hannity is obsessed with his mayor not mine. I will not vote for him for one issue and one issue only and that is gun control. He is a gun grabbing yankee and he will never get my vote.

 




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July 13, 2007 11:19 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Does anyone else get tired of the MSM or political pundits/leaders expression "electability is extremely important".  This is speech code for You should only look at the top tier (our) candidates.  I hope most of you are free thinkers and will not allow these "hidden hand agents" to steal your votes. 

Please look at Fred Thompson's record, mentors and career before jumping on his bandwagon.  Where was Fred Thompson's voice in the past five or more years when our Prez was spending taxpayer money like water, allowing China to run rampant, encouraging illegal immigration and watching America's economic heart (industry) flee to cheap labor countries? 

Fred Thompson:  Lawyer, Lobbyist, senator, and Actor.  I admit he has great "presence" which some may misinterpret as gravitas, but he has not been active or out front on any of the issues threatenig our country.  America does not need another "suit", we need a person who will state his principles and stand by them. 

Tom Tancredo is a man of principles.

God bless our troops, America and Americans

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Thanks Blaze, Chimera, and HFTD.

Have the rest of you forgotten or are you just not well informed.  Fred hasn't been in politics in the last five years.  He hasn't had any say in what has been done by anybody in the last five years.  He has voiced his opinions though.  Nobody wants to read the commentaries and other articles he has written or listen to his speeches.  All you Tancredo and Ron Paul folks want to do is bash him without even getting your facts straight.  Bash away!  There are no skeletons in Fred's closet.  He's human and makes mistakes like the rest of us but he has done nothing to deserve the hatred coming from so-called conservatives in FireSociety.  The liberal media and Fred haters like the people in here will lie and distort the facts but it won't work.  Thanks GOD the majority of Americans are not brainwashed like the majority of FireSociety members are.  Yes, intelligent and informed mainstream Americans will and are supporting Fred Thompson. 

Fred Thompson: Senator, lawyer, lobbyist and actor.

 

 




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July 13, 2007 04:39 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Melinda in TN said:

Thanks Blaze, Chimera, and HFTD.

Have the rest of you forgotten or are you just not well informed.  Fred hasn't been in politics in the last five years.  He hasn't had any say in what has been done by anybody in the last five years.  He has voiced his opinions though.  Nobody wants to read the commentaries and other articles he has written or listen to his speeches.  All you Tancredo and Ron Paul folks want to do is bash him without even getting your facts straight.  Bash away!  There are no skeletons in Fred's closet.  He's human and makes mistakes like the rest of us but he has done nothing to deserve the hatred coming from so-called conservatives in FireSociety.  The liberal media and Fred haters like the people in here will lie and distort the facts but it won't work.  Thanks GOD the majority of Americans are not brainwashed like the majority of FireSociety members are.  Yes, intelligent and informed mainstream Americans will and are supporting Fred Thompson. 

Fred Thompson: Senator, lawyer, lobbyist and actor.

 

 

 

I'm listening and looking and reading and thinking.  I'm also beginning to do some leaning.  Leaning towards Fred Thompson more now than I was leaning away from him.  I just thought you may want to know that.


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July 13, 2007 05:05 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Fred Thompson is a supporter of illegal aliens, and a member of the CFR.  That's all I need to know about him.

The Evangelicals you speak of need to open their eyes.




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July 13, 2007 05:29 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Anyone with CFR will not get my vote, promised right here and now! The CFR is is trying to destroy our sovereign nation and I will be damned before I knowingly support anyone that is associated with the group. I don't plan on being damned and Fred Thompson is in with the CFR.

 

We have to have someone in the White House that will bring back the values of the constitution and not be so politically correct. Someone that will stand up for the American people and say "because that's what the people want" and not, "the American people don't know what's best for America." This is our country, so, if we stumble from time to time…it will still be better than what we have now, a would be dictator, and, he might be playing that part soon….All it would take is a simple cry…"wolf."

 

If we do get to have a 2008 presidential election, I see only Ron Paul or Tom Tancredo as the only two, as of this time, that deserve my vote…and I will write one of the two names in if I have to, no problem.

 




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ARealConservative said:

Fred Thompson is a supporter of illegal aliens, and a member of the CFR.  That's all I need to know about him.

The Evangelicals you speak of need to open their eyes.

 

Would you pleas provide the proof of Good Ole Boy Fred supporting Illegal Aliens.  Lets analyze CFR, would that Be Can't Find your Rectum with both hands, I am sure there are lots of us that suffer from that problem. Now that we have that worked out what else can you throw out about good ole Fred. Are you jealous that he has a very attractive woman as his companion, not me I am proud of a man his age that can keep barbie at home. When you come up with something that is rock solid about good ole Fred get back with me and I will analyze it just like I have analyzed your comments above.


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Anyone with CFR will not get my vote, promised right here and now! The CFR is is trying to destroy our sovereign nation and I will be damned before I knowingly support anyone that is associated with the group. I don't plan on being damned and Fred Thompson is in with the CFR.

 

We have to have someone in the White House that will bring back the values of the constitution and not be so politically correct. Someone that will stand up for the American people and say "because that's what the people want" and not, "the American people don't know what's best for America." This is our country, so, if we stumble from time to time…it will still be better than what we have now, a would be dictator, and, he might be playing that part soon….All it would take is a simple cry…"wolf."

 

If we do get to have a 2008 presidential election, I see only Ron Paul or Tom Tancredo as the only two, as of this time, that deserve my vote…and I will write one of the two names in if I have to, no problem.

 




DEMOCRACY: Two wolves (Republicans & Democrats) and one sheep (The People) voting on what to have for lunch... LIBERTY: A well armed sheep (The People) contesting the outcome of the vote... The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few...or the one.
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Sorry for the double, I am having internet conection problems


DEMOCRACY: Two wolves (Republicans & Democrats) and one sheep (The People) voting on what to have for lunch... LIBERTY: A well armed sheep (The People) contesting the outcome of the vote... The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few...or the one.
July 13, 2007 10:28 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Lewis W. Jones III said:

Anyone with CFR will not get my vote, promised right here and now! The CFR is is trying to destroy our sovereign nation and I will be damned before I knowingly support anyone that is associated with the group. I don't plan on being damned and Fred Thompson is in with the CFR.

 

We have to have someone in the White House that will bring back the values of the constitution and not be so politically correct. Someone that will stand up for the American people and say "because that's what the people want" and not, "the American people don't know what's best for America." This is our country, so, if we stumble from time to time…it will still be better than what we have now, a would be dictator, and, he might be playing that part soon….All it would take is a simple cry…"wolf."

 

If we do get to have a 2008 presidential election, I see only Ron Paul or Tom Tancredo as the only two, as of this time, that deserve my vote…and I will write one of the two names in if I have to, no problem.

 

 

You are entitled to vote for anybody you want.  That why this is a free country.  Tell me since it seems that Ron Paul is your man for president, what is the difference between the CFR and the Iraq committee council? Ron Paul is so intrigued with the Iraq committee council and their report.  The Iraq committee council is trying to be dictators too!  Also I saw Ron Paul on C-Span which he says, " I am in favor of free trade."  Then he goes on to say that he is against NAFTA and NAU.  Is Ron Paul playing both sides of the fence?

July 14, 2007 01:00 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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blaze77535 said: Would you pleas provide the proof of Good Ole Boy Fred supporting Illegal Aliens.  Lets analyze CFR, would that Be Can't Find your Rectum with both hands, I am sure there are lots of us that suffer from that problem. Now that we have that worked out what else can you throw out about good ole Fred. Are you jealous that he has a very attractive woman as his companion, not me I am proud of a man his age that can keep barbie at home. When you come up with something that is rock solid about good ole Fred get back with me and I will analyze it just like I have analyzed your comments above.

First of all,  you know nothing about me personally, so you didn't really need to accuse me of being "Jealous" of a Barbie doll, as you put it.  I'm not jealous of anybody. But, as I said, you know nothing about me.
Second, this still a free country, and you can support who you want to, and so can I. 
That being said, we can start with this:

Tennessee's globalist connections

The core values of the average voter in Tennessee are very conservative. This fact has produced Democrats that voted overwhelmingly for Ronald Reagan. But, out of misguided local loyalty, the conservative voters in Tennessee have also repeatedly elected homegrown globalists. Among them are prominent United States Sens. Howard Baker, Bill Frist, Lamar Alexander, and – yes – Fred Thompson.

All four of those Republican senators from Tennessee were members of the globalist Council on Foreign Relations during their tenure in the United States Senate. (And, a Democratic senator from Tennessee – Al Gore, who became vice-president – was also a CFR member.) Baker, who mentored Thompson into politics in 1972, was part of the " Panama Canal giveaway team" during the administration of President Jimmy Carter – another CFR member. (Note that the linked CNN commentary was written by Robert A. Pastor, another CFR globalist. Pastor recently wrote a column for WorldNetDaily, claiming to distance his North American Community plan from an assault upon American sovereignty.

The "lamestream" news media treats the CFR as merely some advisory think tank. But, the Council on Foreign Relations is much more than that. Going back almost a hundred years, the CFR mission is to establish a one-world government. Because of our historic role as a beacon of freedom, the United States is an obstacle to global domination. Therefore, CFR members must work – some openly, and some secretly – to steadily undermine American sovereignty.

The recent news about the North American Union is only one phase of an unrelenting effort toward global government. To solidify elitist power, that effort includes a concurrent effort toward global currency. That effort toward a one-world money system is, in turn, linked to an effort to use RFID chips in commerce and marketing. Many people believe that the use of such chips is the "Mark of the Beast," as predicted in the Holy Bible. (And, the president of the company that makes the chips is another Republican CFR member, presidential candidate Tommy Thompson. (Is anyone surprised?)

So, CFR member Lamar Alexander used to work for CFR member Howard Baker, who mentored CFR member Fred Thompson. And, Thompson was elected to the Senate in 1994, the same year CFR member Bill Frist was elected to the United States Senate from Tennessee. Both Frist and Thompson joined the CFR in 2002. So, with several years of experience on Capitol Hill at the time they both joined, there is no way either of them could reasonably deny knowledge of the agenda and influence of the globalist Council on Foreign Relations. ("What did Thompson know, and when did he know it?")

Is there any further Tennessee connection to a globalist organization and agenda? Let's see. The junior senator from Tennessee is Bob Corker, who was mentored by CFR members Frist and Alexander. (This writer personally spoke with Alexander at a fund-raiser for Corker.) Upon his inauguration, Corker was sworn in by CFR member Vice President Dick Cheney. There certainly seems to be a pattern.

By the way, during a 2002 speech at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in D.C. to his fellow CFR members, Vice President Cheney joked about getting elected by downplaying his membership in that globalist organization:

"I see a lot of old friends in the room. And it's good to be back at the Council on Foreign Relations. As Pete mentioned, I have been a member for a long time, and was actually director for some period of time. I never mentioned that when I was campaigning for re-election back home in Wyoming – (laughter) – but it stood me in good stead." It seems that having something of a country-boy image is helpful to concealing a globalist agenda – whether in Wyoming or in Tennessee.

Will the new junior senator from Tennessee join the ranks of globalist CFR members? Frist and Thompson did not join the CFR until several years after they were in office. Both had already proven their globalist credentials by that time, having voted in favor of relaxed immigration and border security rules. Corker is already on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, as were CFR members Baker, Gore, Thompson and Frist. What did these gentlemen from Tennessee – elected by conservatives – do while they were in office?

Baker helped to give away the Panama Canal. Gore's committee on aviation security eschewed probable terrorist connections to the downing of TWA Flight 800 . Thompson voted to expand NAFTA, and to relax limits on migrant farm workers. Frist (as majority leader) refused to push a tough border-security bill through the Senate, even though H.R. 4437 – the "Wall Bill" – had passed in the House overwhelmingly.

Bob Corker talked tough on border security during his campaign, but couldn't quite shake allegations that his construction company had hired illegal aliens and had ignored warnings from INS officials. (Those allegations, by the way, came from Republican primary opponents, as well as his Democratic general election opponent.) So, it would appear Corker would be "encouraged" by globalist mentors such as Thompson to lean toward the CFR position on border security and alien workers.

And, with a political bloodline of CFR globalism behind him, doesn't it seem likely that Bob Corker would be the next CFR member senator from Tennessee? And wouldn't that scenario be far more likely if there was a President Fred Thompson to sponsor his membership? There is no doubt Thompson has a globalist pedigree. And, if he becomes a candidate for the White House, the pattern is already established for Thompson and his CFR-elite cronies to continue weakening the security of America's borders, turning a blind eye toward terrorist threats, and giving away America's strategic advantages. Regardless of his amiable personal qualities, can the United States really afford to elect a "Bush-button" globalist president such as Fred Thompson?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




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July 14, 2007 03:52 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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My favorite, ARC.

 

 




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You are entitled to vote for anybody you want.  That why this is a free country.  Tell me since it seems that Ron Paul is your man for president, what is the difference between the CFR and the Iraq committee council? Ron Paul is so intrigued with the Iraq committee council and their report.  The Iraq committee council is trying to be dictators too!  Also I saw Ron Paul on C-Span which he says, " I am in favor of free trade."  Then he goes on to say that he is against NAFTA and NAU.  Is Ron Paul playing both sides of the fence?

You do realize, I hope, that NAFTA and NAU were promoted as free trade, but really aren't.  They were rules for modifying and in many cases reducing restrictions and tariffs on certain goods exchanged.  There are so many trade regulations and restrictions, that remain, that you could hardly all it free trade.  Free traders don't necessarily worry about every tariff and trade/import regulation.  It is simply a concern when trade regulations are used as a political weapon to give an unfair advantage to somebody, whether it be domestic or foreign.  Everybody should have the right to compete for the American market on an equal footing.  Ideally, this would be true worldwide, but we cannot control politics in the rest of the world. 

All of the so-called "unfair" trade practices usually do more harm to the country employing them than to the targetted country.  Frankly, if other countries want Yankee greenbacks in lieu of material goods and actual services, who are we to complain.  They will be "holding the bag" when the currency is devalued gradually via inflation or catastrophically due to a monetary collapse.  Furthermore, there are ways to deal with "dumping", low wage production, and all manner of "unfair" trade practices.  The things that are making us poorer as a nation, are not free trade.  They are government involvement in our lives that are transferring the earnings of the productive to the non-productive and unwilling to work.  They are the government subsidization of all manner of businesses and entities, especially illegal aliens, but including one of my personal pet peeves, professional sports owners.  They are government regulations that are promoted as helping the needy, but almost always end up enriching a special interest group.  We need less, not more government, but you will not here that from politicians who benefit from larger government or the special interests that happily and greedily suck from the government teat.

One thing we could all ask our legislators to do, is to include a sunset clause in every piece of legislation that makes it easier to get rid of harmful legislation that produces unintended consequences.  IMHO, it would be better if we changed the paradigm from correcting bad legislation with new legislation to simply revoking bad legislation.




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Ive always liked the idea of sunset clauses. Once you see something is having the wrong affect or no affect, you can change it.


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