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June 1, 2007 06:05 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Is there a list of where each candidate stands on the Fair Tax

My priorities in a candidate are:

Border Security

Taxes

Iraq/Afgan

In that order...... 




Rayj
First you're born, you pay taxes, you die.
Then your next of kin has to pay more taxes
on your funeral! How fair is that?

http://www.fairtax.org
FairTax Calculator!

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June 1, 2007 06:15 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Rayj00, don't know if there is a single list.  There are several Rep. candidates for it, but can't remember any Dems supporting it.  Watch the debates Sun and Tues night on CNN.  I'm sure they'll bring it up.


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June 3, 2007 01:35 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Ray.

Here's the list of supporters (bold names are ones making it a big part of their campaign):

Mike Huckabee, John Cox, Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, and Democrat Mike Gravel.   

All of the other Democrats are against it, along with John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, and Fred Thompson who support Income Taxation.  I think Brownback is lukewarm (Tancredo kinda is in that category too since he also supports Income Taxation and the FairTax) but I believe the rest like Gilmore and Tommy Thompson are either in the Income Tax category or don't know anything about it.

The only candidate who is already BEYOND the FairTax though is Ron Paul.  The only one that's talking about the inflation tax caused by the Federal Reserve and our monetary policy.  The solution to this would be a Gold Standard that's NOT fractional reserve.




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June 3, 2007 04:06 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Thanks RP...

 I can understand no democrat  onboard with the Fairtax. We need ALL candidates to endorse it.

I really think those candidates that agree with the FairTax should make it the 2nd most important  domestic issues after immigration....




Rayj
First you're born, you pay taxes, you die.
Then your next of kin has to pay more taxes
on your funeral! How fair is that?

http://www.fairtax.org
FairTax Calculator!

This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.
Tom Tancredo - 2007
Tom's Military Rules of Engagement: WE WIN!

Winston Churchill - "An appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last."

"Victory will never be found by taking the line of least resistance."

Proud member of the NRA....although I don't even own a pistol or rifle......

The sooner Mecca's ambient temperature is raised to roughly 250,000 degrees fahrenheit, the better....
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein, US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

June 3, 2007 04:23 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Ray,

Are you sure about that Democrat comment?  I posted a democrat who is making the FairTax a central part of his campaign.

You should join your state's FairTax mailing list.  Just go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/**fairtax (Just replace the ** with your state's abbreviation).

I would say that the FairTax is more important than immigration.  The immigration issue is just a symptom of other problems. 

The Income Tax on the other hand makes us slaves, and is the #2 plank of the Communist Manifesto.




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June 3, 2007 04:53 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Oh..ok...Gravel is supposedly for the FairTax. But I would never vote for a dem... 

Hmmm. Fairtax or immigration... If the fairtax were the law, I think it would actually favor the illegals. For the most part, they don't spend much, as they send most of their money back to Mexico.... 

 

And thanks for the FairTax group info. I just joined... 




Rayj
First you're born, you pay taxes, you die.
Then your next of kin has to pay more taxes
on your funeral! How fair is that?

http://www.fairtax.org
FairTax Calculator!

This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.
Tom Tancredo - 2007
Tom's Military Rules of Engagement: WE WIN!

Winston Churchill - "An appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last."

"Victory will never be found by taking the line of least resistance."

Proud member of the NRA....although I don't even own a pistol or rifle......

The sooner Mecca's ambient temperature is raised to roughly 250,000 degrees fahrenheit, the better....
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein, US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

June 3, 2007 06:38 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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FairTax favoring the illegals?!  Oh quite the contrary Ray.  This is one of the big selling points of the FairTax.

Currently illegals pay NOTHING in taxes and they are subsidized with basically everything they could imagine.  

Under the FairTax the illegals would be taxed 23% of everything they spend to sustain themselves.  

Regardless of how this effects illegals themselves, the Income Tax itself is much more destructive to our nation than the illegal aliens are overall.

This is what I mean regarding the FairTax probably being overall a more important issue, even though getting the fence built, and fighting off amnesty is probably more urgent now and still quite very important.  

There is no reason that patriots cannot fight for EVERYTHING that is right.  We have big problems in education too that would be solved by this website's plan, www.schoolandstate.org




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June 4, 2007 10:03 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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My point was that the illegals spend very little of their "earnings"....they send more back to Mexico  then they spend here. Much of that money is untaxed. With the Fairtax system, those that do pay taxes will be getting more money on their paycheck, so they will send more back to Mexico. They only

 




Rayj
First you're born, you pay taxes, you die.
Then your next of kin has to pay more taxes
on your funeral! How fair is that?

http://www.fairtax.org
FairTax Calculator!

This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.
Tom Tancredo - 2007
Tom's Military Rules of Engagement: WE WIN!

Winston Churchill - "An appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last."

"Victory will never be found by taking the line of least resistance."

Proud member of the NRA....although I don't even own a pistol or rifle......

The sooner Mecca's ambient temperature is raised to roughly 250,000 degrees fahrenheit, the better....
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein, US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

June 4, 2007 04:51 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Ray,

The illegals will not be getting a bigger paycheck under the FairTax.  They currently do not pay any taxes.  

They will still export dollars to Mexico, some of them, but the 20-30 million illegals currently here will still need to purchases goods and services to sustain themselves while they live here.  

Dept of HHS says that the poverty limit for one person is $10,000 per year.  This would mean that it basically costs out $10,000 to get the basic necessities of life.  I would really argue this point because Dept. of HHS really doesn't calculate this poverty guideline accurately (does gov't calculate ANYTHING accurately?) but this poverty guideline formula is used for the prebate so we can use it in this hypothetical.

So again, hypothetically, we'll assume that all illegals here are single and by themselves.  So you'll have 20-30 million illegals still spending $10,000 per year to sustain themselves for the basic necessities of life.  

Even if these people were somehow able to live off of $5000/year, that would still be 23% of these purchases going to our federal government.  

The same argument is applied to the $1.5 - $3 Trillion underground economy.  Criminals will pay taxes on their legitimate purchases.  

So inherently the FairTax will decrease the incentive for illegals to be here since their purchasing power drops.




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