Catholic League blasts HBO's Bill Maher for his comments about Falwell

 

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In issues like these I believe we need to turn to God's word. What would Jesus say or do? As much as it may grate against us personally because he's slamming Christianity I believe we need to pray for men such as Mr. Maher. If his heart is to be won to Christ it will take much prayer and discernment of the timely interjection of God's word. Even then we may not see Mr. Maher change. A good verse that may be one that he will respond too, is when Christ is explaining the only unpardonable sin; The rejection of the Holy Spirit. How to present this to him, and when, or where, and by whom, could be a prayer of petition, or possibly there are other verses that Mr. Maher would respond positively and with a receptive heart?

I, for one, would like the Catholic League to become vocal in blasting the illegal invasion of this country by the poor and ofttimes destitue (and sadly, diseased) offscouring of Mexico's population that the Mexican government, due to corruption within and outside of it, won't assist.  But of course, that's far too much to expect or ask of them because the dwindling Roman Catholic population in the United States of America covets these newly acquired members from whom they can take the little they bring with them or amass when here and add it to their Churches' coffers.  I'd like to investigate just how much of a role the Roman Catholics have played in importing the illegals.  It would also be interesting to know how much papal encouragement Mexico has received in its exportation of a large part of its populace and how much of Mr. Bush's and the dems' attentive ears the Pope has had in opening our borders to this invading horde.

If the liberal left-winged traitors to our country didn't encourage their own to murder children by abortion then they wouldn't need to be inviting Mexico's poor to help fill in the slowed growth to our nation's legitimate growth in population.  And how difficult will it be to get these illegal immigrant Catholic familes to grow by leaps and bounds and because so many are indeed illiterate and unskilled and likely to stay that way, it won't take much of an argument to get them to the polls to vote in more governmental controls, bigger and ever enlarging govermentalism, and out-of-control spending for socialistic programs.  Catholics everywhere should be so ashamed of this treating people like a commodity, not to mention this conspiracy between Catholics, its Pope-run church, the treacherous dems of America, and Mexico's government to encourage a lawless invasion of the sovereign Republic of the United States of America.

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KWT, What does that have to do with Mr.Maher?

Nothing, nothing at all.  I was simply stating what I'd like the Roman Catholics' Antichrist, papal-run League to do.  Okay?

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KWT, I cannot say what you may do or not do, especially in light of some of my tangental, though non-caustic, entries on certain topics. I will say that you are very gutsy to make some of the comments that you did though. Be careful.

 

Kenneth: "Catholics everywhere should be so ashamed" I am Catholic and I am not ashamed because I have nothing to be ashamed off.

Gerald was right about you need to be careful with you words.

True Catholics/Christians DON'T support Amnesty - the ones WHO do are wolves in sheep clothing. I too get upset by the unlawful support of illegal's especially the Priest out in LA - I can't remember his name.

However, most regular Catholic people Respect the rule of law because the bible tell us so - Romans - and Catholics will help somebody in the way of a humanitarian need - but not by aiding and abiding illegals to reject the rule of law by marching in OUR streets.

The point I am trying to make is please do not group all Catholics together. I can assure you there are a LOT of Catholics on this very site alone that are whole heartily against law breakers.

 

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Blaze:

I don't care whether or not you and Gerald think I should be careful with my words.  I choose my words very carefully and I use them to express precisely what I intend them to communicate.  You may very well be an exception to the Papal mentality of Roman Catholicism.  If so, fine.  There may also be millions of others who for whatever reason call themselves Catholics while intending to communicate their being Christian.  But I know from Scripture that they are not both at the same time.  Roman Catholicism's Pope and papal system has for centuries proven itself a daughter of the Babylonian Whore's religious sects of all kinds and flavorings.  Is that a clear enough use of my words to communicate exactly what I intend for them to do?  I tire of people who incessantly rail against politically correct double-talk and double-speak while thunderously declaring their undying support of free speech when in truth they don't really oppose political correctness when it serves to hide the underbelly of their cherished belief systems and they don't really support free speech when it is used to expose the underbelly of their cherished belief systems.  I never cease to be amazed at that double standard.

Christianity is not Roman Catholicism and Roman Catholicism, which is a religion and theocracy  -- and sadly, nothing more than that, is not even a reasonable semblance of a facisimile of Christianity.  It is antiAmerican because of its higher loyalties to a foreign supreme pontiff who demands veneration and a communal allegiance superceeding that of one's allegiance to the American Republic and its foundational documents.  Therefore, I strongly suggest that you save your judgmental responses until you can and are willing to think clearly, reason clearly, and clearly understand what it is that is said and what it is you are saying in reponse.

I am a patriot of the United States of America Republic wherein I hold citizenship.  I am also Christian.  And as a Christian my earthly/temporal allegiances are always; that is ALWAYS, tempered by my allegiance to Jesus The Christ and His LORDSHIP over all the universe.  Tempered and challenged.  I dare not give unqualified loyalty to any form of government, to any religion, to any Pope, to any earthly and earthbound theocracy, to any political party, to any organization, to any science, to any form of academia, to anything at all without it first being challenged by GOD's Holy Word of Scripture.  In all things, small or great, important or insignificant, profound or silly, my words should and to the best of my ability must always strive to communicate what it is that I think and believe and accept and rely upon and promote as a Christian living in this world while diligently and vigilantly working to eschew being of this world.  As a Christian I turn to the inerrant and infallible words of Scripture and search them to see if "these things be so".  Perhaps you should consider doing the same if you are going to insist on calling yourself Christian.

You, Catholic person, freely think and do as you very well please; however, to rail against my words is ludicrous if you actually understand them. 

Finally, in response to your bit about my grouping all Catholics together I cannot be constrained from telling you how ridiculous such a statement is.  Of course all Catholics are to be grouped together.  Why?  Because all Catholics (True as you say, or otherwise) are just exactly that, Catholics.  And even if you could forcefully or passively convice me otherwise that would in no way change the reality.  Far more important is the fact that all Christians can be and are grouped together because they do not differ in any way from one another -- they are GOD's adopted children and therefore stepbrothers and stepsisters of the King, Jesus The Christ, The True and Only GOD/MAN Who is, in Righteousness and Holiness, fully and wholly pleasing, satisfying, and to be LISTENED to in all things temporal or eternal, in matters of faith, in conduct, in worship, and in service to GOD and mankind.  Unlike Catholics, who when viewed through your eyes or intellect are grouped as True or False, Christians are just Christians -- all True and none False because their is no such thing as a false or counterfeit Christian.  Anyone who is not a true Christian simply isn't Christian.

Please make some attempt to see with the eyes GOD provided you, hear with the ears GOD provided you, and reason with the intellect with which you have been endowed by and through GOD.

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Kenneth, Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but it doesn't necessarily make them correct. To me "Catholic" means one body of believers with Christ as the Head. Colossians 1 vs. 18. Whether or not that includes Roman Catholics-the Pope, Lutherans, Baptist, Episcopal, et al, I'll leave the final judgement up to the Lord. I am inclined to believe though that their are "Christians" in every faith, as I'm sure there are black sheep also. This is why I expressed a concern, and possibly Blaze of Fire did also, for you to be careful. Hopefully you won't have to eschew that too.

Gerald47:

What is it that drives and/or compels you to constantly post comments to me which are nearly always some sort of weak-kneed peeps of insolence and doubt?

What does it matter what "Catholic" means to you?  Why should I or would I give a tinker's damn about your inane opinion on the matter? The word catholic itself has a clear meaning (taken from the Greek word katholikos, strictly meaning universal) and in no way accurately describes or defines one body of believers with Christ as the Head as being Catholic.  That is just plain silliness.  The Roman Catholic's Church has but one head, the Pope.

And that bit about what you are inclined to believe with respect to "Christians" (why put quotes around the word?) being in residence or found or whatever in every faith is about as childish and ecumenically spurious and humanistic as anything I've ever been confronted with.  Christians in every faith?  WHAT?  Plain and simple, there is not a single Christian who is outside of the faith once and for all delivered, the Gospel of Jesus Christ and its accompanying faith which is solely focused upon and resting in His Life, His Deeds, His Righteousness, His Holiness, His Baptism, His Death, His Resurrection, His Ascension, His Exaltation, His Kingship, His Acceptance as The Only True GOD/MAN, His All Pleasingness, His All Acceptability, and His All Accomplishing/Accomplished Mission.  Is all that so foreign to your heart and mind that you can reduce Christianity to an opinion or to many and varied opinions?  Whether it is or not the truth remains that no Christian is living in any other faith than the one which solely belongs to Christ and Christians.

Please cease and desist from your nonsensical concern(s) about me being careful and instead grow in a boldness similar to mine in believing the Gospel of Jesus Christ which was once and for all and all time delivered and is now ingeminated through a perpetual recapitulation of preaching and publication by a remnant of Christ's faithful disciples.  Grow ever bolder in your trusting in and adhering to and relying upon Christ in all things great and small so as to live abundantly, to live fearlessly, to rejoice in your citizenship within the American Republic and its foundation documents, to comfortably face your eventual mortality, and to maintain a genuine hope and an ever expectant anticipation of being fully transformed in the twinkling of an eye as you are then, by invitation, ushered into the Eternal Kingdom of GOD.  Otherwise you may as well fire a bullet through your brain and end it all so as to avoid a continued miserable existence full of doubts, perplexing questions, nonsenical opinions, fears, and an empty and futile yearning for an acceptance by and an approval from a godless and christless god who in the final analysis and reality will prove to not only not be GOD but also prove not be a real "God" in any sense of the word. 

Additionally, I seriously question why it is that you quoted to me a verse from the Bible's Book of Colossians wherein the inspired writer said/says: "He is the head of the body, the church, as well as the beginning, the firstborn from among the dead so that he himself may become first in all things" unless you firstly understand what it clearly says and means and secondly whole-heartedly believe it to be true and agree with it.  Your use of the quoted and blessed and inerrant/infallible Words of GOD serve only to support what I've stated in every one of my posts with respect to this thread's topic.

Now, I am compelled to mention the paramount question of all time and times which was first asked by Pilate who wrongly answered it to his great dismay, "What shall I do then with Jesus, who is called Christ?" That is a question everyone must answer. I would like to pose two other questions to you and all religionists of every stripe and color: Why must every person eventually answer that question? What is it about Jesus Christ that lays such a claim on every heart?

Are you so blind and is your reasoning so dull that you cannot understand that Christianity is neither subject to any opinion by any individual man or woman nor to any group or organization or Church or religion or earthly theocracy?  Christianity is not Christianity unless it is Christian.  Christianity is not dependent upon any and/or all opinion(s) or poll(s) or popular sentiment(s), or confessional positions/stances but instead is a saving faith which is wholly and solely focused upon, reliant upon, and trusting in Jesus The Christ.

Well, sir, have I "spoken"/written carelessly enough for you?  I certainly hope that I have!

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Kwt, I'm sorry you feel the way you do about me, and about others. Thank you for your concern too. Also forgive me for my concern for you. I was coming from a sincere heart you know? I believe an adequate answer to you would be as is written in 2 Corinthians 3 vs.'s 5-6. May God bless you Kenneth, and Bill Maher too! Was not this blog to be centered around his comments about Dr. Jerry Falwell and his assault on Catholicism?

Gerald47, Gerald47, Gerald47, please sir, you would accuse me of claiming a competence within myself?  That sir, is so unfair and uncalled for.  You know that I have not once made a claim to any wisdom, righteousness, knowledge, or worthiness which comes from any source other than GOD Who has graciously called me to Himself, baptised me into Himself, confirmed me with His Works on my behalf, and guides me through His Word and Gospel.  So, no, sir, II Corinthians 3 vs. 5 and 6 do not stand to condemn me but rather to confirm to you, sir, and others, sir, that my belief in, adherence to, and reliance upon Jesus The Christ as my sole Redeemer, Saviour, Lord, and GOD is in fact and indeed the Narrow Way and only way which leads to a right standing before GOD and to Eternal Life -- it is the Gate! because it points solely to Christ Who is the Gateway to the Eternal Kingdom of GOD.  Therefore, if I boast, I boast only of Christ and His Wholly Acceptable and Pleasing Merits before God, The Father on my behalf, your behalf, and on behalf of every man and woman and child. 

Why, oh why, do you strive so to perplex me when you should be joining me in a revivalistic rejoicing in Christ and an earnest and unceasing prayer to heal our nation?  Shouldn't you be about what I am about; i.e., ministering to others the pure and unadulterated Gospel of Jesus The Christ?  That is if you are in fact a member of the Royal Priesthood of Believers.

Bill Maher's comments toward the now deceased Dr. Jerry Falwell and his "assault" on Catholicism (a bogus theocracy worthy of being assaulted) in the scheme of important things within the universe deserving of thoughtful considerations hardly amount to a hill of beans.

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KWT,

PREACH!

I do understand how people have come to this place where its wrong to say anything about anybody.Weve been brainwashed(think about it,when you wash something you remove what ever has accumulated)and a blank slate is easy to paint on!

IF people would take even a casual look at history they would see how and WHY  ths country was founded.To escape th pope.Thats hard to say,I DONT LIKE TO SAY IT.However its true.WHY?The Founders had a different soteriology(salvation) than the pope would allow.

As far as  Bill Maher,he makes the same mistake that is being made here-he lumps Catholics with Christians.

Kwt, I'm not trying to cite Biblical verses to condemn you, nor am I trying to perplex you. Did not those verses use the personal pronouns "we", "our", "us?" I am mostly in concurrence with you which is exactly why my original statement came from a sincere heart. Somewhere in another blog I even hailed your comments, or have you forgotten? I believe where we differ is that I do not put myself into a position to be able to discern, or judge?, as you claim. Throughout my life span I have had many friends that are Roman Catholics and Episcopal, people that I love, whom I believe to be Christians. Therefore logically speaking should you consider the billions of people that populate this planet there must be a large throng of believing Catholics. Can you accept that? Even if you cannot, in the final analysis if they are not really Christians then it is still God's divine dispensation that prevails.

I am called or referred to as a white person, especially by those who think themselves to be black persons or brown persons.  And yet, I am not white.  I am not albino.  I've seen and known albinos who do in fact have white skin because their bodies lack the ability to produce enough pigment in order to "color" their skin.  Therefore, I don't refer to myself as "white". 

There are those who insist on calling themselves African-Americans and insist that I follow suit in doing likewise.  How childish and what a horrendous use of words.  Unless someone, black or otherwise, holds a dual citizenship in both Africa and America they are not and cannot rightly be called an African-American; further they have no right to make such a ludicrous claim.  But, nonethless, they wrongly insist on the inane usage of the so-called term despite the fact it is an outrageous lie.  Just as many here speak of races when there is only one race of human beings, the human race.  Different cultures? of course, different ethic groupings, yes; however, there simply is not such a thing as different races or racial differences or racism or a racist.  That is all just utter nonsense.  GOD did not create different races!  He created a single race of human beings, humanity/mankind.  He created one man and one woman from the Earth's dust and the chosen elements He used to create them.  Adam and Eve were/are the original parents of the whole of mankind irrespective of skin pigmentations or even the lack thereof.  How He did it is beyond my comprehension and frankly, yours as well.  And its ultimately unimportant how He did it.  What is important is that He did it and that mankind has not evolved from some lower primate.  Just as no living being evolved from an amoeba.

And whenever individual or collective spirituality is the topic at hand there is to be no mincing or mixing of words or terms.  Like it or not, there simply is not a Scriptural allowance for Christian categorizations such as  a Catholic-Christian or an Espicopal (Espicopalian)-Christian.  To refer to your friends as such is a wrongful torturing of terminology on your part as it is for them to claim such a designation.  They are either Catholic or Christian, they are not and cannot be both.  They are either Espicopal (Espicopalian) or Christian, they are not and cannot be both.  A Christian is a Christian or he/she is not a Christian and therefore is not Christian.  To speak otherwise is to simply practice a form of Satan's trickery and gibberish.

When Satan approached and spoke one on one to Jesus The Christ, saying, "if ye be the Christ" he was actually either asking or saying, "Are you the Christ? or You aren't the Christ, are you?"  Why is that so difficult for you and others to grasp and comprehend?  Why do you allow your worst foe, Satan, to cause you to stumble and trip at what it is and what it isn't to simply be Christian?  Do you not understand that were it possible that Satan, the devil, would like to think and have others likewise think that there are also Satanic Christians.  See how abominable that is?  See how ludicrous it is to extend your thought processes to even the idea that Christians somehow even exist (live) in Hell itself?  Of course, that's very close to Roman Catholicism's teachings about a pretended purgatory wherein they imagine that Christians temporarily reside -- what utter garbage and humanistic dung!  And yet you expect me or would require me to give some sort of cognizance to an idea of a supposed Roman Catholic Christianity?  Please, do I really strike you as being that dim-witted?

Join forces with those who scorn me, if you can take pleasure in doing so, for exposing Islam for what it is (although at this "conservatives" site it seems rather popular amongst many self-proclaimed members of conservatism [some of which who seemingly have no idea what it is to be a conservative] to inist they understand what Islamicism is and isn't), Mormonism for what it is and isn't, Catholicism for what it is and isn't, British/Anglo Israelism for what it is and isn't, and all other theocracies for what they are and aren't. 

Sir, do not really think yourself equal to the task of convincing me that Christians are or can be anything other than Christian (GOD's children who are intentionally placed into the world by GOD and for a time remain in the world because of His Will for them to do so, while all along being commanded to remain separate from it and never of it)?  Believe me when I say that neither you nor anyone else who visits this site is up to such an ambitious undertaking.

Think man, think.  Reason and pray and study to show yourself approved unto GOD, a worker in Christ's Earthly Kingdom who need not be ashamed.  Why?  Because Kenneth W. Treuter says so? Hardly! Because GOD, in and through His infallible and inerrant Word, commands it.

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KWT: I understand you views on the Pope and on the Catholic Church. However, I am an American and I do not have an alligence to a forgien poniff (Pope). My alligence is with the GOD first and foremost and then to the USA. I pray to God, not the Pope or the vacation. We are lucky to have free speech and it is OK to have a difference in opinion.

And I do know that the Catholic bible is different than the regualar bible.

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Blaze_of_Fire:

I hear you, loud and clear.  And I certainly agree that we, as a nation/We, the People, are blessed with the very good fortune of having free speech which allows for and includes having and expressing different opinions.  I do think, however, that the blessing was purchased firstly with the spilled blood of the Saviour and subsequently with that of American patriots.  Thenceforth, the right has been preserved at the same price -- even to this particular Memorial Day's remembrances.  So, it is not simply luck that established the right and has maintained it.  And unfortunately, if we are not careful to assert it, enforce it, and protect it, those who mince and mix and torture the meaning of words will strip us of the right and replace it with laws requiring we learn a language foreign to freedom lovers which is known as political correctness (double speak/talk) or be prosecuted for not speaking it so that anything that offends someone or some group of someones will be declared unlawful and subject to criminalization and punishment by fines and/or imprisonment.  That's how serious the matter is.

So, as we celebrate our right to speak freely and clearly we should be vigilant and watchful and instant in defense of the right -- even at the sacrificial price of spilling blood to uphold it.  Additionally, we should pray that GOD defeat those who pervert language so as to serve their godless humanistic agendas.  Hate speech is, in actuality, the bedeviled language which is spoken by humanists, socialists, communists, left-wing libs, religionists, governmentalists, atheists, elititists, globalists, right-wing radicals, and theocrats.

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Kenneth. I agree there is only one Holy Catholic (All Embracing-Universal) Church with Christ as the head. Even though people call themselves Baptists, Methodists, Lutheran, et al, does it throw all into disorder any more than it does should one call him-herself American, French, Russian, German, Italian, English, Chinese, Korean, et al? Indeed, if "...Christians are or can be anything other than Christian-GOD's children who are intentionally placed into the world by GOD and for a time remain separate from it and never of it." Why would nationality be of such significance then? ..."neither you nor 'ANYONE?' else that visits this site is up to such an ambitious undertaking." Kenneth is though? Then in the next paragraph you exhort me to think, reason, and pray to be approved. Kenneth, with all due respect your line of reasoning is rather confusing, and is exactly why I believe people choose to call themselves Roman Catholics, Presbyterians, et al. As for me I stand firm on John 3 vs. 16. Should you believe I am lost, or wrong, or am not up to the task, or whatever, then, pray for me, and pray for Bill Maher too.

Gerald47:

I am not in a position to even judge myself as to acceptance by GOD or right standing before Him.  I pray that it isn't the case but it is possible that my faith is somehow not truly focused upon Christ's Merits and that I have been deceived by Satan, the world, and my own corrupt/corruptible nature to think that it is while in truth I am really relying upon something within myself or my being or something which I possess within my own strength.  GOD forbid that it's so but it is possible that I am relying upon my faith itself rather than upon Christ's doing on my behalf and for me so that my faith has become what my trust and reliance is focused upon.  I certainly pray and hope no such possiblilty is in fact the situation in which I am sojourning and if it is that I'm convicted so that I repent and seek GOD's mercy and forgiveness and reconciliation through Jesus.

I am confident that God, The Holy Spirit Who is the Author of my faith and my Attorney before GOD's Judgment Throne and Bar of Justice, has kept me from focusing upon it to the extent that I am relying on it instead of Christ or that it is no longer simply the channel/avenue by which I commune with Christ and receive from Him my right standing before GOD's Holy and Righteous Throne of Judgment.  I believe that it serves as my spiritual right arm and hand which I use to reach out to my Saviour and connect to grasp His Holy Hand of Righteousness and Holiness and Acceptance before GOD and then boldly claim it as my own, although while I remain earthbound that Righteousness, Holiness, and Acceptance is still alien to my being and belongs only to Christ, although for His sake and Love toward me God, The Father imputes it to me (declares it is mine) and through it forgives me of my sinfulness and sins.  But even so, I dare not judge myself and declare myself to be truly forgiven, righteous, and fully acceptable because I think that I have somehow reached a level of holiness (sanctification) which belongs to me in my own strength because to do so would be to call GOD a liar and I'd only be deceiving myself. 

My eventually being judged still awaits my appearance before GOD's Bar of Justice after my physical death where I will stand stripped of any defenses and/or excuses and will only be able to plead for mercy for Christ's Sake and what He accomplished for me.  Once again, I am confident that I can do so and I trust that I will then be acquitted because His Righteousness and Perfection will be substituted for my unrighteousness and imperfection.  And then, being declared to be fully acceptable I will also be  completely transformed and made perfect and will in fact be fully acceptable, righteous, and holy.  And at that very moment in Eternity it will in fact and indeed be all mine and I will have totally received it as the greatest Gift which could ever be and will be and is bestowed upon a human being.  Therefore, if I am sensible enough to recognize and understand that I cannot fully/truly judge my own standing with GOD then I'm even more sensitive to the reality that I am even less able to judge you or anyone else.  How dare I even think to do so?  I am no one's judge.  I cannot and do not know a person's heart and mind as GOD does and only He can therefore judge any of us.

Now, I can certainly judge a person's temporal conduct and outward behavior by comparing it to the sure and unadulterated Scriptures -- in fact Jesus instructs me to do so.  But beyond that I cannot judge another.  My judgment is limited to what I observe and hear, and based upon that I am equipped to know whether or not I should keep company with someone else or if there is a basis for fellowship.  And if I determine that I should not keep close company with someone and there is no apparent basis for fellowship then it becomes incumbent upon me to pray for them and make a genuine attempt to communicate GOD's Love, Grace, and Mercy toward them and confidently speak of His Desire that they should accept Christ's free gift of Forgiveness and Life.  I should always strive, to the extent that I am able to do so and to the extent of my limited abilities to do so, to make a sincere attempt to establish a fellowship in Christ with the person (unless he/she clearly rejects my attempts and makes it clear that they have no use or time for what it is that I have tried in love and respect to communicate to them about my Saviour and Lord and His desire that they should answer His call upon their life).  At that point I can and should freely move on while also freely continuing to pray for them and hoping that perhaps through someone else's efforts that God, The Holy Spirit will accomplish a regeneration in their heart and mind and that they turn to Christ in faith and reliance and adhere to Him for salvation.

Sir, I have not and do not judge you and do not doubt that you are known by and of the LORD GOD through Jesus The Christ.  I sincerely hope that you also know Him as your personal Redeemer, Savior, and LORD/KING/GOD.  If so then I extend to you my right hand in fellowship.

My remarks about being up to task/job were directed at attempting to convince me that a Christian can or does have split loyalties/alligances.  Please read them again.  My comments weren't meant as challenges and were not intended to be judgmental.  I was stating that I won't be persuaded to accept and think or believe that a Christian can be Christian if what he/she really is with respect to their faith and reliance and allegiance is a Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, Pentecostal, Presbyterian, Methodist, Nazarene, Episcopalian, etc. 

If belonging to one of the aforesaid religious/denominational designations is all of "Christianity" one possesses with respect to Christ then, according to Holy Scripture, they are not of Christ, are not Christian and are not a Christian although they may on mankind's final day on Earth actually think they were and actually ask Christ when they saw Him naked and didn't clothe Him, hungry and didn't feed Him, thirsty and didn't give Him a drink, jailed and didn't visit Him or post His bond only to hear Him reply that because they did not do it to/for the least of His brethern they did not do it to/for Him and besides He never knew them because they were not of Him.

And sadly, the truth will then be revealed (to the background sound of gnashing of teeth and weeping and wailing) that although they may have been a loyal disciple of the Pope or Luther or Calvin or Wesley or Campbell or the "Archbishop" of Canterbury or York or someone else who founded the religious sect/denomination to which they gave their allegiance and in which they placed their trust and faith for redemption unto salvation they did not give their allegiance to Whom it was that the sect supposedly gave its allegiance and in Whom it supposedly trusted and relied upon through faith, Jesus The Christ.  Therefore if their standing with the creature and/or the religion/religious body who/which claimed an exclusive relationship with the Creator resulted in their membership in and service to the creature and his/her sect/denomination was as close as the individual ever came to a personal relationship with the Creator, Christ,  then he/she simply didn't ever come to a true relationship with Him (Christ) and never truly knew Him and were therefore never known by Him.

Gerald47, I simply don't understand why anyone would choose to call themselves Catholic or Methodist or Lutheran or any other designation if what it is they truly want to communicate to others is that they are Christian.  That seems to me to be so very foolish.  If I am Christian then I want to simply be known to be a Christian and identified as being Christian with respect to my living and lifestyle, my loyalties, my allegiance, and my dying -- simply, a Christian who is Christian.  And that's entirely different than stating or claiming my temporal nationality as an American of an Italian or a Swede, etc.  In declaring myself Christian above all else I am declaring that my real/eternal citizenship is in Heaven with Christ.  My true LORD and KING is my Creator GOD Who is Sovereign over the entire universe and is my Redeemer, Saviour, Friend, Father, and Advocate.

In conclusion, I shall pray for you to enjoy GOD's richest blessing upon every facet of your temporal life and that He grant to you Eternal Life and full citizenship in His Kingdom.  I'd ask that you pray likewise for me.  With respect to Bill Maher I'll pray that his heart and mind be opened to the truth if indeed it is at present closed to it.  But because his nonsense means way too little to me to take anything he says with more than a "grain of salt" I'll not likely spend much time or energy attempting to persuade him of anything.  I'll simply leave him and the likes of him for GOD to deal with and earnestly hope that God, The Holy Spirit, miraculously works with and in him toward his being saved unto life eternal. 

By the way, I pray in a general sense of the word a prayer for all my enemies, detractors, and foes.  And even so, I am still vigilant to the extent that I remain prepared always to defend myself and my fellow American patriots against their attacks upon us and their assault upon our Republic.  GOD can and will defend His Being and Sovereignty and Kingdom without any assistance whatsoever from the likes of me.  Nonetheless, it remains commanded of me to truthfully testify of Christ and His Gospel.

Hopefully, I've arrived at a point where you can feel confident about what it is I've attempted to communicate to you and others.  I hope this has helped. 

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Nappy Hoes, blasting the dead, who cares?!  That's a matter between the individual and God. 

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