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May 22, 2007 09:04 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated May 25, 2007 05:38 PM

 

5/25

 I never thought I would see the day that France could do anything better than the US! Bush and Kennedy should take a lesson from this or we will pay the price.

This article was in the Daily Mail 5/25

France says no to mass legalisation of undocumented immigrants

France's minister of immigration and national identity, a new ministry created by President Nicolas Sarkozy, has ruled out legalizing undocumented immigrants en masse.

The new ministry said today that government policy would be dictated by firmness and pragmatism.

We have to put aside massive legalization. It doesn't work and it penalizes, even immigrants," Brice Hortefeux said on Europe 1 radio.

Policy, he said, would be guided by "firmness and humanism" with "lots of pragmatism."

He also said he planned to adhere to the policy of deporting illegal immigrants from France. The number of deportees was expected to reach some 25,000 this year, and Hortefeux said he would ensure that figure is reached.

Hortefeux, a longtime confidant of Sarkozy, was among those named to the new government on Friday.

The conservative Sarkozy, elected president May 6, had reached out to the anti-immigration far right to capture votes, notably ruffling some feathers in his own camp with his promise to create a ministry of immigration and national identity.

Hortefeux said he planned to meet shortly with officials from sectors like the building and hotel and restaurant industries, known to rely heavily on immigrants.

Hortefeux also said he would not put into question a long-standing policy of "family grouping," by which immigrants in France can bring their families here.

However, he indicated, as Sarkozy had, that modifications may be made in order to ensure that those who join other family members in France can be integrated.

"It must be carried out in respect for the dignity of those who want to come and (in a way) that favors their integration," he said.

Sarkozy had said he wants to ensure that those who join families in France can speak French and that family members receiving them can support the newcomers.

5/24  I have been following this so called senate debate and am totally disgusted. This is just another ploy and attempt to deceive the voters (like the last minute election passage of the still unbuilt and unfunded border fence). This senate is a group of grossly overpaid individuals whose only goal is pereserving their own self interests.  If they vote for this bill, I will not only vote against them next time around but I will work on the campaign of their competitors and I  have no intention of supporting their  party in the presidential election.  

5/22  9:30 am

Senators Menendez and Lautenberg

 I did have some difficulty getting thru on the phone and I had to call back  in order to get thru (my impression is that the phones were busy) to Senator Lautenberg. I will continue to monitor their position and ultimate vote because I have no intention of voting for the reelection of anyone who supports this bill or anyone else of the same party! This was the most important issue for me in the last election and apparently they have not gotten the message!

SUGGESTIONS

STEP 1 - BUILD THE FENCE AND CLOSE THE BORDER!

STEP 2 -  START ENFORCING THE CURRENT LAWS!

STEP 3 - DEPORT ILLEGAL  ALIENS and enforce the laws against employers.

STEP 4 - Provide an efficient and reliable system for tracking entrants into our country and identifying all illegal aliens.

 STEP5 - DESIGN A GUEST WORKER SYSTEM.

 NO AMNESTY  or PATH to Citizenship.

Both senators phone staff indicate that they have not made a decision pending discussion of the bill.

They are now requesting identifying information when you call, this is not the usual procedure as I have contacted their offices regarding other matters.

This is an improvewment over statements last week by Senator Menendez staff that he was not happy with the bill because it "separates families".  I have a suggestion for people who are in this country illegallly and dont want their families "separated".  Go home and reenter legally as many other lawabiding citizens do. This is a good sign as I usually am able to get NO response at all although they are supposed to be my elected representatives.

May 22, 2007 10:38 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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you vote for this bill, you no longer receive mine.
May 22, 2007 11:07 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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This is really simple:

If the ILLEGALS don't have a job, they will go home.

Impose heavy fines on employers who hire them.  Big fines for big employers, and smaller fines for the mom & pop employers.  The ILLEGALS will then go back to Mexico or wherever.  Then we can further close the borders with fences, and then send any apprehended wetbacks to jail for a minimum of 3 months.

 It's like "FIELD OF DREAMS"  -  if they dont't have jobs, they won't come.

 Like I said, this really simple change will make all the difference in those coming to USA.  All the other proposed changes to our laws should probably go forward, but then we're dealing with a much smaller number of people.

SIMPLE

Pete

May 23, 2007 12:20 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Its useless to call these two Senators and oppose the Legislation. They both vote with the Left on all issues and against the majority of the People they represent, and ignore E-Mails, Faxes and Petitions to the contrary. NJ Phil
May 23, 2007 12:23 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I sent the following to all Key Legislators

 

Amnesty and Guest Worker for Illegals

 
  1. There should be no Amnesty or Guest Worker Program
  2. There should be no Amnesty or Guest Worker Program until the Leftist Pelosi Congress heeds President Bush call to fund the Military in Iraq without Timelines and without installments.
  3. There should be no Amnesty or Guest Worker Program until Border Patrol Agents Ramos, and Compean are given Presidential Pardons for being wrongly convicted for doing their sworn duties, protecting our southern Border from Illegal Alien Drug Smugglers with 750 lbs of CDS
  4. There should be no Amnesty or Guest Worker program until the Democrat Prosecutor Sutton of Texas is given a 12 year Prison term for giving immunity from prosecution to the Illegal Alien Drug Smuggler, Osbaldo Aldrete -Davila
  5. There should be no Amnesty or Guest Worker Program until the $5,000,000 Lawsuit brought by Aldrete-Davila against Agent Ramos is dismissed as frivolous, and any American Lawyer representing the Illegal is disbarred.
  6. There should be no Amnesty or Guest Worker program until all other Border patrol agents convicted or awaiting Trial have the charges dropped or Sentences vacated, and the Statute that allows them to be convicted over Criminals is changed.
  7. There should be no Amnesty or Guest Worker program until Mexico, who is rich from Oil, Illegal Drug Smuggling, and income from Illegals, gives the U.S. Free oil as compensation for the Free Medical, Social Services, and Schooling of Illegal Aliens from Mexico. By doing so, the U.S. can get rid of the Marxist Citgo Oil from Chavez of Venezuela and his spokespersons and sympathizers, Joe Kennedy and Fidel Castro of Cuba.
  8. There should be no Amnesty or Guest Worker Program until our Borders are Militarized to prevent more influx, and to determine how many of the 12-20 Million Illegals now in the Country are Convicts, Drug Smugglers, or Gang Members that should be deported; not given Citizenship or a Green Card.
  9. The KBK Bill is just a smokes screen for the open borders that will be created by  the Socialist/Marxist Clinton Legislation that created NAFTA, and the proposed North American Union with Socialists Mexico and Canada that will lead the U.S. into Socialism and Marxism with the implementation of the NAFTA Superhighway, and the demise of the U.S. as a free, independent nation.
May 23, 2007 06:44 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I have also constantly tried to contact them via e-mails and letters and found that either they were swamped with people feeling the same way we do OR, they just did not care at all and were going to SELL THEIR VOTES TO ILLEGALS AND VIOLATE THEIR OATHS OF OFFICE TO:

1) PROTECT & DEFEND OUR U.S. CONSTITUTION

2) PROTECT & SUPPORT ALL LAWS OF OUR COUNTRY & STATES

3) PROTECT OUR BILL OF RIGHTS FOR ALL LEGAL CITIZENS.

I COULD GO ON BUT YOU GET THE POINT!!  These people DO NOT belong in the positions they now hold! Rep Barney Frank from Boston said," all dems should vote for the amnesty bill for two main reasons.

Once we get the amnesty bill passed, all the aliens would vote for our candidates in the 2008 elections for helping them.  All union workers will vote for the dems when we vote a bill to protect all union jobs from illegal aliens swarming into the U.S.A.  This would secure the dems future for years to come!  What a sell out of our country!  It will destroy our nation Financially, Socially, Social Security programs which Citizens have a hard time getting enough to survive on, Hospitals over burdened by Illegal Aliens crossing our borders to have kids which makes them instant citizens but leaves the working class with the bills for there total care and the fact that within this wave of Illegal Aliens are those who are of the Criminal Element who would come here to rape, murder, rob let alone kill our families with Guns and Cars also gotten Illegally!!   Sure there are many problems with both parties but it is the American Voter that is allowing all this to happen!!  Wake Up, Stand Up and fight back for America before it is too late!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!             

    

 

May 23, 2007 11:18 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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If you go to www.wikicongress.org you can send an email to all of your representatives at once.You type in your message and your contact info and it figures out who your reps are and sends an email to them from you.This is a great way to send comments really easily and they do get through.I ripped them a new one on this bill last night. Basically I told them if they voted for it, I would not only vote against them next time around but I would work on the campaign of their competitors. Fred

May 23, 2007 01:34 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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MANY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES NOT VOTING

Important!! Not sure which contact to use.. so here are both their Candidacy and the Senate contact information.

We need to pressure The Presidental candidates into a NO vote they are ones with an election at STAKE. They are the ones seeking or money as we speak!! Its a General Election they are campaigning for so we can call them all and Pressure them all.. ( except maybe Kerry, do they come any dumber?)

We need to demand their vote be on record  for this issue, so we can weigh our Presidential votes!!!

MANY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES NOT VOTING

____________________

Biden (D-DE)
DE SENATE CONTACT

Joseph Biden D

201 Russell Senate Office Building

Washington, D.C. 20510

Phone 202-224-5042 Fax 202-224-0139--

 ........................

CANDIDATE OFFICIAL CONTACT INFORMATION:

Unite Our States PAC
513 Capitol Court, Suite 100
Washington, DC 20002
202.588.1990
Fax: 202.547.2221
Email: info@uniteourstates.com

 

______________________
Clinton (D-NY)NY SENATE CONTACT

Hillary Clinton D

476 Russell Senate Office Building

Washington, D.C. 20510 

Phone 202-224-4451 Fax 202-228-0282

...............................

CANDIDATE Hillary Clinton for President Committee
1717 K Street, N.W.
Suite 1001
Washington, D.C. 20036
Phone: 202.263.0180
Fax: 202.263.0181
Email: info@hillaryclinton.com

 

_____________________
Dodd (D-CT)
CT SENATE CONTACT

Christopher Dodd D

448 Russell Senate Office Building

Washington, D.C. 20510 

Phone 202-224-2823  Fax 202-224-1083 

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CANDIDATE OFFICIAL CONTACT INFORMATION:

Chris Dodd for President
P.O. Box 270701
West Hartford, CT 06127
Phone: 860.561.8843
Fax: 860.561.8893

 

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McCain (R-AZ) (
why waste the time, let him feel irrelevent) I reccomend you pressure Kyl,  McCAin is the way of Kennedy about now he is a gone to us,  who the heck voted him, in not the Reps) Kyl we may stand a chance with 

SENATE CONTACT 

John McCain R

241 Russell Senate Office Building

Washington, D.C. 20510 

Phone 202-224-2235 Fax 202-228-2862

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CANDIDATE OFFICIAL CONTACT INFORMATION:

John McCain 2008 Committee
P.O. Box 16118
Arlington, VA 22215
info@exploremccain.com

 

__________________________

Obama (D-IL) IL SENATE CONTACT

 

Barack Obama D

713 Hart Senate Office Building

Washington, D.C. 20510 

Phone 202-224-2854  Fax 202-228-1372

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CANDIDATE OFFICIAL CONTACT INFORMATION:

Obama Exploratory Committee
607 14th Street NW
Suite 800
Washington, DC 20005
Email: info@barackobama.com

 

___________________________ 


  Good Luck!!

Patricia

May 23, 2007 03:54 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I WAS IN NEW YORK NOT LONG AGO AND I VISITED LADY LIBERTY. TEARS CAME DOWN MY FACE WHEN I STOOD IN FRONT OF HER AND I SAW A BIG TEAR ON HER CHEEK SO I ASKED HER WHAT'S WRONG? SHE TOLD ME I CAN TALK TO YOU BECAUSE I REMEMBER THE IRISH AND POLISH SIDE OF YOUR FAMILY PASSING IN FRONT OF ME WITH "AMERICAN" FLAGS IN THEIR HANDS, THEY WAVED THERE FLAGS AND SMILED AT ME ON THERE WAY TO "ELLIS" ISLAND I CAN STILL HEAR THEM YELLING "GOD BLESS AMERICA" I WAS SO HAPPY BACK THEN..........SHE SIGHED AND SAID NOW I'M SAD, NO ONE PASSES ME NOW, THEY GO OVER FENCES, OR THROUGH TUNNELS THEY TAKE AND TAKE FROM ME YET WON'T SUPPORT ME. THEY WANT TO HAVE CHILDREN HERE, SO THEY BECOME AMERICAN'S THEY DON'T PAY TAXES, YET WANT FREE CARE AND COST THE REAL AMERICANS BILLIONS. WHERE DID I GO WRONG SHE ASKED ME...I SAID YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG WE STILL HAVE THE MILLIONS OF "LEGAL" AMERICANS THAT WILL FIGHT WITH THEIR BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS FOR OUR COUNTRY AND THEY WILL MAKE OUR CONGRESS AND SENATE START DOING THE RIGHT THINGS FOR OUR COUNTRY AND I PROMISE YOU THAT....OK? SHE GAVE ME A SLIGHT SMILE AND SAID OK.....AND CAN YOU TELL AMERICA SOMETHING FOR ME, I SAID YES, SHE SAID TELL ALL THE "REAL AMERICANS THAT I STILL LOVE THEM" AND I WANT AMERICA TO BE GREAT AGAIN......THANKS AMERICA FOR READING THIS.  
May 24, 2007 08:44 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Although your state tends to lean to the left, I will go ahead and leave my message, lower man on the totum pole Tom Tancredo for President, he will get something done about border security, and illegal immigrants, he has been talking about the problem for years, not just a johnny come lately.
May 24, 2007 09:47 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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we will fight for america look at what lady librty just said.....The Statue of Liberty is no longer > saying "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled > masses." She's got a > baseball bat and she's yelling, 'you want a piece > of me?' "
May 24, 2007 04:49 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County ( L.A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.


3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens


4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal , whose births were paid for by taxpayers.


5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.


6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.


7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.


8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.


9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.


10. In L.A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish. 
(There are 10.2 million people in L.A. County ).


(All of the above are from the Los Angeles Times)

 Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare.
Over 70% of the United States ' annual population growth (and over 90% of California , Florida , and New York ) results from immigration.

29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.
Our leaders are fools for letting this continue.
WHY CAN'T WE SEND THEM HOME ? 

UNITED WE STAND - GOD BLESS AMERICA
 
May 24, 2007 09:21 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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The new French president has it right about how to handle illegals.   Read this article and send it on to your elected reps, maybe they can learn something!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=456666&in_page_id=1811&ito=1490

October 23, 2007 08:10 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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All,

 

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has invoked Rule 14 on the new bad DREAM Act amnesty (S. 2205) and the vote will be tomorrow.  This act is much worse than the previous version.

 

I phoned 8 senators yesterday and will call at least 20 today.  Please phone your senators TUESDAY.  We need to put loads of pressure on them to vote NO to this massive sellout.  Call a few other senators as well, particularly those from Virginia, West Virginia, New Mexico, Maine, and Vermont.

 

Don't get discouraged.  We can beat this if everyone calls.

 

Keep fighting!

 Pete 
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pistol426pete said:

Will do.




May 16, 2008 05:07 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I have repeatedly called and written to my NJ Senators on the topic of immigration and amnesty.  Their staff respond with placating informational blurbs and "Thank you for your comments" replies, both verbal and written.  And both senators keep on supporting amnesty and open borders.   Their position is no different than the Bush administration's calculated destruction of US sovereignty. 

 As far as I'm concerned, the gloves are off.

I have, as usual, called and written both Senator Menendez and Senator Lautenberg regarding this new Feinstein attempt at amnesty.  My written correspondence follows below:

Senators Menendez and Lautenberg, 

Taxation Without Representation. That is what the majority of US citizens face today.  We elect our representatives and pay them with our hard-earned tax money, and they support the foreigners whose very first action is to break our laws.  When are you going to support the Americans who pay you, who rightly expect your protection, who grew up respecting their Constitution and civil law, and who want to lawfully maintain the world leadership in LAWFULL Immigration. You incentivize illegal invasion. You obstruct application of established law, both Federal and State. You craft the destruction of this nation’s sovereignty.  And you have the nerve to make your pay raises automatic, so as to separate even further from your responsibility to your constituents and this nation.  You immortalize hypocrisy.  You neither represent the American citizen nor fight to preserve this blessed country on your watch.  HOW DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT?  Stop the attempts at amnesty.  Stop the covert attempts to sneak through amnesty clauses on other legislation, especially this latest Feinstein attempt. The American people have, more than 26 times, ordered you to stop attempting amnesty for lawbreakers. Every special commission in the last 50 years has warned against the currently pursued course on immigration.  Why are you so driven to place the welfare of illegal aliens above the welfare of the people you swore an oath to serve, by whom you are being paid, and who, rightfully expect your protection?  You preserve for yourself and your consenting fellow legislators a special place in history: facilitators of the destruction of the greatest democracy on earth.

Congratulations.

 


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