WOW! New commentary (statement) from Fred Thompson on the immigration bill

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May 18, 2007 02:20 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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This came out today.  It's a much broader statement by Fred on the bill the Senate is conjuring up right now.



Comprehensive or Incomprehensible?

By Fred Thompson

Editor's note: Click here to listen to the original radio commentary this transcript is based on.

Most Americans know that we have an illegal immigration problem in this country, with perhaps as many as 20 million people residing here unlawfully. And I think most Americans have a pretty good idea about how to at least start solving the problem – secure our nation’s borders.

But there’s an old saying in Washington that, in dealing with any tough issue, half the politicians hope that citizens don’t understand it while the other half fear that people actually do. This kind of thinking was apparent with the “comprehensive” immigration reform bill that the U.S. Senate and the White House negotiated yesterday.

I’d tell you what was in the legislation, but 24 hours after the politicians agreed the bill looked good, the Senate lawyers were still writing what may turn out to be a one thousand page document. In fact, a final version of the bill most likely will not be made available to the public until after the legislation is passed. That may come five days from now. That’s like trying to digest an eight-course meal on a 15-minute lunch break.

We’ve tried the “comprehensive” route before to solve the illegal immigration problem with a bit more care and deliberation, and the results haven’t been good. Back in May 1985, Congress promised us that it would come up with a comprehensive plan to solve the problem of illegal immigration and our porous borders. Eighteen months later, in November 1986, that comprehensive plan was signed into law.

Twenty-two years and millions of illegal immigrants later, that comprehensive plan hasn’t done what most Americans wanted it to do — secure America’s borders. Now Washington says the new “comprehensive” plan will solve the problem that the last comprehensive plan didn’t.

The fact is our border and immigration systems are still badly broken. We were reminded of this when Newsweek reported that the family of three of the men, arrested last week for allegedly plotting to kill American military personnel at Fort Dix, New Jersey, entered the U.S. illegally more than 20 years ago; filed for asylum back in 1989, but fell off the government’s radar screen when federal bureaucrats essentially lost track of the paperwork. Wonder how many times that’s been replicated?

Is it any wonder that a lot of folks today feel like they’re being sold a phony bill of goods on border security? A “comprehensive” plan doesn’t mean much if the government can’t accomplish one of its most basic responsibilities for its citizens — securing its borders. A nation without secure borders will not long be a sovereign nation.

No matter how much lipstick Washington tries to slap onto this legislative pig, it’s not going to win any beauty contests. In fact, given Congress’s track record, the bill will probably get a lot uglier — at least from the public’s point of view. And agreeing to policies before actually seeing what the policies are is a heck of a way to do business.

We should scrap this “comprehensive” immigration bill and the whole debate until the government can show the American people that we have secured the borders — or at least made great headway. That would give proponents of the bill a chance to explain why putting illegals in a more favorable position than those who play by the rules is not really amnesty.

— Fred Thompson is an actor and former United States senator from Tennessee.

© PAUL HARVEY SHOW, ABC RADIO NETWORKS




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May 18, 2007 02:48 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I couldn't put it any better than that Fred!!


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May 18, 2007 03:26 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I read and listened to this. I know everyone is trying to catch the elusive Reagan mantle, but Thompson may have the best chance. if you recall, the Gipper -- after his defeat in 76 -- returned to the Reagan Ranch and focused on a daily 5-minute radio commentary on events. Reagan wrote many of the commentaries, longhand on yellow legal pads. He used this time to fine-tune his positions on a host of issues.

Perhaps Thompson is choosing the wiser path right now. He's sitting on the sidelines, commenting, and connecting with grassroots Americans. I am excited to hear more from him.




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May 18, 2007 03:52 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated May 18, 2007 07:13 PM
While I believe there will not be another Ronald Reagan,the potential conservative candidate should to say the least study him!Fred looks like he is deliberate in his statements and doesn't dance around tough issues when questioned.The forum he has been using recently sure lends itself to a Reagan flavored type of commentary!


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May 18, 2007 03:58 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Thompson writes all of his own commentaries as far as I know.  This is good because we are hearing what he really thinks, not something put together by a speech writer that is all polished and politically correct.  His personality is similar to Reagan's.  He has a common sense approach toward issues and can communicate with the common person.  Like Reagan, he has a very good sense of humor.  I'm not saying he will be another Reagan.  There was only one Ronald Reagan.  He has several common traits that Reagan had that grassroots Americans are starving for.   

Fred should announce in June or July and until then he is using his time and his accessibility to outlets like the Paul Harvey show to his advantage in getting his thoughts and beliefs out.  I don't expect us to be disappointed.  I encourage everybody to listen to his commentaries in the next few weeks and get a feel for the man.




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May 18, 2007 04:11 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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AMEN!  He just spoke in a few paragraphs what the American people have been trying to tell the politicians all this time!  Steve is right, he truly is connecting with us grassroots Americans.  Finally, a voice for us in the wilderness.  Thanks to Grassfire for all that their doing for us in Washington, we've had so many victories after long hard battles thanks to their tireless and relentless efforts to fight for our God given rights! You are in our prayers Steve,Thankyou!  

And Thanks to Melinda for all her input and tenacity in keeping the Senator at the forefront, way to go girl,  we're with you all the way!!

Keep our Heroes our troops in your prayers along with our wrongly imprisoned border patrol agents, theyll be free soon!!     Don't Give Up!    

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May 18, 2007 04:28 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Do you have confirmation that "he writes his own stuff"?

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May 18, 2007 04:31 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Steve, I read it and I'll see if I can find it.  It was a while back. 


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May 18, 2007 05:06 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Steve, he writes his commentary for the ABC Radio Network called The Fred Thompson Report according to this notice on the page where his commentary is posted. 

"The Fred Thompson Report contains the commentaries and opinions of Fred Dalton Thompson.

Mr. Thompson is a former Republican senator from Tennessee whose commentaries, "The Fred Thompson Report," can be heard on the ABC Radio network."

I don't have verification about his commentaries on the Paul Harvey Show but they all say "by Fred Thompson" and if you click on the link to email the author, Fred Thompson's email, fthompson@aei.org, comes up.  That is a good indication that he writes them himself. 

He also blogs.  Here is a response by Fred Thompson in the Pajamasmedia blog:

http://pajamasmedia.com/2007/05/fred_thompson_exclusive_story.php

I posted a message to Sturm Ruger in Free Republic asking how much of his writings he actually writes and should hear from him soon.  I read a comment in there that said that he does write his own "stuff" a few months ago but didn't save it.

I don't know if he personally wrote his speeches years ago when he was in the Senate or not but I'm 99.9% sure he is writing his own commentaries and statements now.  If you are asking if he is writing them on yellow notepads, I have no way of knowing. Laughing  I can see him doing it though.




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May 18, 2007 05:31 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Can we get a look at Fred's voting record from his time in the Senate? He indeed seems to be the strongest candidate yet with conservative values. We have a pretty good idea what the current crop, including the so called "top tier" candidates stand for and frankly, they frighten me. I am still waiting for a "Reaganesque" candidate.


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May 18, 2007 05:41 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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OK Steve, I found it.  This article is from one of his speechwriters.  He has people that help with speeches but he does his own work on the commentaries that he does for radio, etc.  This is what the speechwriter said:

Tuesday, May 01, 2007

From a Thompson Speechwriter   [Peter Robinson]

Soon after posting a few words of praise for a Fred Thompson commentary (see below), I received an email from one of Thompson's speechwriters—who, in the honorable old tradition of the craft, wishes to remain anonymous:

In fact FDT writes many of his commentaries on his own, and has done the initial drafts on his three, major upcoming political speeches [one of which is the address to the Lincoln Club of Orange County that Thompson will deliver this Friday]. These are his ideas, his words. He gets some help, but not much.  He thinks this stuff through carefully, his Federalism article two weeks ago being a exhibit A.  He worked through that for a weekend before putting pen to pad.

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From everything I read, Fred Thompson drafts his own commentaries.  He has people that help but the words and ideas are his.  I did find mention of pens and pads. LOL Laughing




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May 18, 2007 05:51 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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But Steve!

Are you not concerned with Fred Thompson's immigration rating from Betterimmigration.com?  He was given a C grade overall, and a D on Amnesty.

Are you not also concerned that he is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations?  How can we put ANY trust into a guy who is part of an organization designed to erase our borders, install the North American Union, and have the Amero replace the dollar?

We have to stop giving these globalists the attention they don't deserve.  He is an actor, let him act and if you like the show watch the show.  We have enough politicians in Washington D.C., we need some more statesman.




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May 18, 2007 06:00 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated May 18, 2007 06:10 PM

Vemmaguy,

Here is his voting record:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson.htm

The immigration rating RonPaul08 is talking about is because Fred voted to allow more immigrants to come here to work on work visa's.  These would be legal documented immigrants, not sneaking across the border immigrants.  Some people can't see the difference.  The votes were from 1997 and 1998.  Of his three votes on immigration, one vote was yes, to limit welfare for immigrants, which is a good thing. This does not work up to a bad rating for me.  It's only a bad rating if you want no immigrants, period.

I think his position on amnesty is pretty clear cut.  He is not for amnesty.




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May 18, 2007 06:06 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Melinda in TN said:

Vemmaguy,

Here is his voting record:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson.htm

The immigration rating RonPaul08 is talking about is because Fred voted to allow more immigrants to come here to work on work visa's.  These would be legal documented immigrants, not sneaking across the border immigrants.  Some people can't see the difference.  The votes were from 1997 and 1998.  He also voted YES on limiting welfare for immigrants which is a good thing.  This does not work up to a bad rating for me.  It's only a bad rating if you want no immigrants, period.

I think his position on amnesty is pretty clear cut.  He is not for amnesty.

 

His overall immigration grade of "C" contributes to the visa issue you speak of.  His grade on amnesty is a D.  Please explain that.  Obviously candidates with a B or an A overall are better than those with a C when it comes to immigration.  That's how the grading system works ;)




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May 18, 2007 06:48 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Please explain that

Can you not read?  I posted a whole commentary from his own mouth delivered today where he plainly states that amnesty didn't work in the past and it won't work now.  He plainly slam dunked the Congress members that try to call amnesty a "comprehensive plan" which is just fancy words for amnesty.  I don't give a flying flip what you found in some tired old grading system from who knows when.  His records of the past and his recent statements tell me all I need to know. 




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May 18, 2007 06:50 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Dang Gnats!!


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May 18, 2007 06:57 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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ROTFL Jimmied, thanks so much for that laugh!  Now, somebody get me a virtual flyswatter.

I think he actually enjoys picking on me.




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May 18, 2007 07:19 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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To whom it may concern,it would be one thing if someone only spewed emotional rants and raves about the candidate they seem to endorse,but here and in a couple of other similar post we have seen some very good and sound information!That is the best way to see for ourself what a potential candidate stands for.I,for one don't like potentials' who have bugs following them around all the time...lol




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May 18, 2007 08:36 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated May 18, 2007 10:19 PM

Firstly, I truly admire and respect those who labor to write their own speeches and commentaries.  Born dyslexic and oppressed with the malady (as a thorn in my side)  throughout my lifetime I struggle to think through and then reduce to writing what it is I wish to communicate to another or others.  I'm relatively selective in my reading simply because it's a real task for me to read and when I do so it requires such intense concentration it is actually physically and emotionally draining.  The upside to it is that when I complete the task I am able to almost quote what I read word for word as though I had, although I don't, an eidetic memory.

Somehow, it seems to me that an individual is more honest with and toward those he/she wishes to influence or have consider their ideas if they reduce them to writing which belongs solely to themselves, unless, of course, what they write is somehow "inspired" from above.  Wink

I have previously stated, in response to another poster, my dislike of Mr. Thompson's comment about granting rights with respect to the Constitutional guaranteed right of owning,  keeping, and bearing firearms.  Nonetheless, this evening, while commuting homeward from my office, I carefully listened (with the ear that was not intentionally and purposely destroyed with respect to having its needed membrane ripped apart by a rogue and willingly corrupted cop - this nation suffers from far too many belonging to that brotherhood of ilk)  to Mr. Thompson's discussion with one of my favorite conservative radio talk-show hosts about the so-called comprehensive immigration reform bill (which at the time of this writing has not even been fully drafted and yet is being praised by dems and rinos alike, along with Mr. Bush's seemingly almost giddy cheerleading).  During that discussion, Mr. Thompson made several comments which caused my political heart to jump with an elevated sense of happiness that he is perhaps very close to being what I might consider to be an almost ideal candidate for the Republican Party's nomination and someone who could seriously assist in pushing back the hordes of left-wigned liberals.

I want to learn more about Fred Thompson and look forward to what it is that other posters at this forum have to say about him and see fit to share about the man.




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May 18, 2007 08:38 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Melinda in TN said:

Please explain that

Can you not read?  I posted a whole commentary from his own mouth delivered today where he plainly states that amnesty didn't work in the past and it won't work now.  He plainly slam dunked the Congress members that try to call amnesty a "comprehensive plan" which is just fancy words for amnesty.  I don't give a flying flip what you found in some tired old grading system from who knows when.  His records of the past and his recent statements tell me all I need to know. 

 

Predictable response.  You're basically attacking the source and saying the grading system of www.betterimmigration.com is flawed.  

Again, here is Council Fred's immigration scorecard from: http://www.betterimmigration.com/cand...


Grades Updated: May 16, 2007

SUBJECT

Reduce Enticement AMNESTIES for Illegal Immigration

GRADES

Career

• View actions used for CAREER grades
Criteria of "CAREER" and "RECENT"
• What are the issues of Reduce Enticement AMNESTIES for Illegal Immigration?

Back to Thompson's full grade card



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