Is Hugo Chavez Friend or Foe

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May 1, 2007 03:37 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I have noticed that any nation that has a tendency to have a strong Nationalist persuasion seems to be rejected, and labeled "enemy" by the Media and Washington. Hugo Chavez has nationalized Venezuela's oil reserves,and major industries, but offered to sell the U.S. oil for $50 a barrel, that would lower prices at the pump by about a dollar a gallon. Bush flatly rejected the offer, I wonder why? Foreign investment began to trimble weeks before this happened. The only thing I can see he has done is attempt to redistribute some of the wealth to the poor, and kick the international bankers out, and return some of the wealth back to the people. If Africa would have done that years ago, during the colonialization period their wealth would have remained in Africa, instead of the British, French, German and Portuguese bank accounts.The old wealth of Europe which is probably invested in Latin America today.
May 1, 2007 04:07 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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                 Ol' Hugo is definately a foe, who is rubbing elbows with Communist China, bringing the Red dragon right to our back door. Keep an eye on Hugo and all the OTM's caught using Venezualan Papers.


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May 2, 2007 08:33 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I really can’t see any difference between Venezuela’s desire to trade with Communist China and the Bush administration’s desire to push Chinese made products down the American Peoples throat. Chavez is buying Chinese military equipment and technical expertise because we refused to sell it to him. Most of the technical know how the Chinese have, was given to them by the United States, under the guise of sharing technical innovation for commerce sake. I never could understand why we have sanctions against Cuba and aggressively trade with Communist China to the tune of a 400 billion trade deficit. If Chavez is a threat to the U.S. why is Citgo, a Venezuelan owned Oil Company operating in the United States? It seems to me Chavez is rejecting the Globalist Policies of the Bush Administration concerning Latin America. The North American Union and Freedom and Prosperity Partnership of North America is only the beginning of these Plutocrats desire to produce a central government for all the Americas. Rhetoric we here about Mr. Chavez is similar to what we heard about Kosovo, Panama, Haiti, and many other small wars perpetrated on our neighbors, in the last 20 years. We heard it about Saddam Hussein in Iraq before the second invasion. It appears it takes a strong dictator to control the many factions of Islam in the Middle East, were sure not doing a very good job. If our troops were not bogged down in Iraq I believe they would be in Venezuela today. I only want to warn people about the State Department and Major Media vilifying this man because, Venezuela chooses not to come under control of the Global Plutocracy.         

May 2, 2007 04:18 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Very good points algebra. Any country that would kick out the international bankers which is the one world system in a shell, would be on Bushes bad list. Hes a neo conservative and for one world government. That to me is the bottom line. If hes redistributing wealth though he sounds possible socialist. Is he a rich man and what about the circles he travels in. Your freinds say alot about you.


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May 3, 2007 08:08 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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bugsygirl, I don't know how wealthy Mr. Chevez is at present. I know he came from a poor family, and has a military background. He is positioned himself close to Iran, and the Middle Eastern Countries. I don't fault him for that, because if I had a powerful neighbor to the North, that wanted me to inter into agreements, that raped my country of its wealth, decimated the poor, I believe I would look for friendship elsewhere also. His political ideology probably is somewhat socialistic. I don't fault him for that either, our form of capitilism is not working so well either. If you are heavily invested in the Stock Markets you are probably doing quite well, but if you are one of the middleclass, your income has been going down for thirty years. Exxon-Mobile made 75000.00 an hour last year. I believe that is somewhat excessive wouldn't you?We are victims of a small group of Global Plutocrats that has amassed huge wealth, and power. It should be common sense that if you have an economy with a thriving middleclass, that can afford to buy excessive consumer goods, and support the world; more or less. Now if you begin to outsource their industry to areas where .42 cents an hour, is the common wage, and take huge profits by manufacturing at low wages, then ship the product back into the country that has the thriving middleclass, wouldn't you eventually destroy the market you want to sell in. Thats what they are doing, and they know it. WHY 

May 3, 2007 12:57 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I have written this before, but it needs repeating. Chavez is definitely a foe. He is not only rubbing elbows with Cuba, but he has close ties with Iran. What is to keep Iran from training terrorists cells in Venezuela, and then sending them to America via Mexico. We would not be able to tell the difference, and once they got here they could not or would not be traceable. They could come in here with seperate pieces of a WMD, and meet at a designated place to assemble it, say New York or Washington DC, and detonate it. What kind of destruction do you think that would cause.

Wake up Washington, you had better secure our borders before they fry your asses!!!




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May 4, 2007 08:35 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070503/D8OT4O100.html

Hugo Chavez is threatning to Nationalize the Banks of Venezuela. Interesting article at the link above. Is Cuba more Communist than Communist China?

May 11, 2007 07:59 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Refer to my post on Breaking News.


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May 11, 2007 10:11 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Which is it? "Money makes the world go round." or "Love makes the world go round." I don't care what kind of government you live under, Capitalistic, Socialistic, Communistic, or aboriginal tribes, None of them allow you to take $.01 cent or seashell with you, NONE. So the question is which suits us the best while we live our little lives here on this earth? I chose what our Founding Fathers set in motion over 200 years ago. Is it a perfect system? Duh! Are men perfect? Even so we fight and give the lives of our dear young men to maintain this Republic. Should the world ever decide on how we can all live together peaceably, then so be it. This world is becoming increasingly smaller moment to moment. John Lennon's song "Imagine" sums it up. Alas, like many men of great vision, evil could not tolerate the freedom he was advocating. "When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn?" Peter ,Paul and Mary.
May 11, 2007 10:26 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Gerald47,

I, too have heard "Imagine" and "Where Have All the Flowers Gone". I have also listened to Bob Dylan sing "The times They Are A Changing". They are and not for the better. We may not have a perfect government, but for a season, we had the best in the world. If it ever comes to globalization, none of us will have any freedoms whatsoever, except maybe the fags, dykes, and the ones who brings America down, which will probably be the Muslims and Mexicans, with the help of our own government.




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May 11, 2007 11:21 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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John07, Like I said, I choose(because it's the best choice right now) what our Founding Fathers set in motion over 200 years ago, even though this "New Order", plundered, stole and decimated the native populations and never really took into consideration that they were humans too. I.e., we have the guns, we need the land, (Chinese believe this too) and you don't, and also you are heathens. Therefore I stake this land as MINE. In the name of Christ?, and what are you going to do about it? It's a vicious NEVER ENDING CYCLE, but it still doesn't keep me from dreaming, and believing that just somehow men just may be able to get it all together. If you think you cannot accomplish something, then you probably never will. Do you honestly believe if we build a big huge wall around us it's going to change things? Eventually too, Christ will return. Hope I'm alive and have a sincere honest repentant heart when He does. Dylan was semi-right too. What he should have said "The times they are a 'ALWAYS' changing." A few years back Mr. Bob Dylan accepted Christ as his personal saviour. What's he saying now?
May 11, 2007 11:45 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Gerald47,

Agreed on all points.




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May 11, 2007 01:13 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Im not sure I understand Gerald. Do you not think a fence will help us along our borders?


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May 11, 2007 01:39 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Bugsygirl, More so in an ideological sense in that we cannot become solely peace activist isolationists. We must not cut and run and wait for the evil forces of this world to build up so that later we've got even a bigger mess on our hands. If we do that "a great wall" won't even help us. We need to do what is correct and right and hopefully it will coincide with God's will. The first thing we need to do is stop killing our unborn. 1,600,000 per year and them ain't all rape cases or mother jeopardizing birth's. John07, I was hoping you weren't thinking I was trying to pick a fight with you.
May 11, 2007 02:42 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Gerald47,

No, I wasn't thinking that. I was only responding to what you were saying. I understood you. I think we are basically on the same thought.

As for your question, bugsygirl, no, a fence will not stop them. They don't have to come through Texas to get here. They can come in through a number of states just as easily. Look how many Cubans made it here in boats that weren't much larger than a battub. If they want to come, they will because they know that our government wants them here.




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May 11, 2007 08:51 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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A physical fence might not stop them all, but I believe it would stop most of them. When the Globalist creates the circumstances by this invasion. To issue national idenity cards to every citizen, then it will stop. Then they will create a different set of circumstances, to implant a chip in us, in our forehead or right hand. Then comes a cashless society, your paycheck will be digitally transfered into your account, a swipe of the hand at the checkout will transfur the exchange. Thus you won't be able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast. Also consider the mark is not an alliegence to government, it is a religious mark. These guys will not only create Global Government, but Global Religion also. Probably a blend of Islam and Christianity, But be assured the new religion will exclude the Name of Jesus.  
May 11, 2007 10:05 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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algebra, May He return and take His own before then. I've already have enough future shock to disrupt my life. When I was a younger man, and not that this is a good thing, but if you went belly-up, i.e. bankrupt, you could move on and start over somewhere else. Your credit history was just that, history. The Donald Trump's of the world use bankruptcy to their favor, but us commoners, it follows us to the end. Just goes to show that complete trust in our Lord is necessary. " We need not be worried about tomorrow, because our Lord is already there."
May 11, 2007 10:05 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I beleive a fence would help alot. But we do need to leave some space open for when they want to leave when the jobs arent available anymore do to the employers getting big fines and going to jail. Although they could always take those little boats back home...lol


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May 13, 2007 07:31 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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            Hugo brokered a deal with Russia's Putin for 100,000 Kalishnikov assault rifles and a license to manufatcure them in Venezuala. Given his ties with pro-Aztlan proponents, I see some well armed Reconquistas in our future.


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May 13, 2007 07:51 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Hugo is Our Enemy, he is part of the problem with the South American Gangs that roam out Nation. Soon, very soon, The streets of Our Nation will run with blood, our children will be taught to hide in order to survive, why, Our Government is letting every American Citizen down by destroying their rights day by day. If we do not make or force a change it will come. It appears they have much more organzation than we do, plus they have the biggest & strongest backers, THE U.S. Government, this is a BIG, VERY BIG MESS. Our enemy has been coming over for decades to defeat us, they are doing a damn good job. We are being stopped by P.C. it has to stop.

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