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http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=24052

As the anti-Christian liberals have declared war on Judeo-Christian morals, ethics and culture, this quote says a lot about our sick society.

"A young person who can’t even check in with God at the place that he spends the majority of his day isn’t likely to ooze compassion to other people—especially the poor. A heart which lacks prayer is a heart which lacks love."

 

 

I know I can pray all day without anyone knowing it. I can talk to God wherever I am. But just the fact that so many will attack my right to speak openly to God  shows how much this country in general has come to hate Jesus teachings and christianity. Of course the majoraty of people who say they are christians is in question also. A large part of that hate comes from people who say and dont do. Theres a  huge difference between going to church and religion and knowing your God personally or even obeying Him. I was watching TV last night and there was a special on called, What is a christian? Well I suspected what it was but turned it on to see. I lasted about 2 minutes. The first man talked about the bible and how it was true. Then immediately another guy got on and started saying how rediculous it was , no facts, just insults. I turned it off. Unfortunately alot of people will watch that, but I wont be one.

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Our country, with it's many religions, (and fleeting freedoms to worship our God in a Judeo-Christian model) is daily under attack from the radical-left  of the media.  When things are reported in the media it is always slanted to show us as ignorant, meanspirited and lacking judgement.  When radical Islam is taught in our colleges, given justification in the media, and foresworn as "not so bad" it puts the rest of us at risk.  The actual goal of radical Islam is to remove and subjigate the rest of us!  We need to protest the medias portrayals that radical Islam is anything but dangerous.

And the ultimate goal is not just embracing multiculturism and pushing out Jesus but controling us and splitting us apart to control us easier with that multiculturalism. I heard someone else call is babylonism. Good description. Each faction not being able to agree with or communicate with the rest and the head is the secular government to keep us all in line. Big brother to the rescue.

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That article perpetrates one of my pet-peeve conservative talking points:  claiming that "they've taken prayer out of the public schools."  This simply isn't true.  What cannot take place is teacher/administrator-led prayer - by law it cannot be forced on anyone, directly nor by peer pressure.  However, students themselves can pray practically whenver or wherever they want (within reason - say, not if the teacher is calling on you, you can't hold up class and expect them to wait for your prayer to finish).  They can pray at lunch, on the football field, before tests, whatever they like.  Any administrator who tries to stop it is on the wrong side of the law.  But it is completely disingenuous to say that prayer has been removed from the schools.

 

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But if you're a Muslim they most likely will allow you to pray when called upon by the teacher. They may even provide a prayer rug and off them to the other kids.

When I went the teacher lead the prayer nobody objected and noone got shot by another student.

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Re: Muslim comment: absurd, and you know it.

And that's great that all the kids in your school didn't object to a teacher-led prayer. Didn't make it okay, though. What if there was a Hindu or an atheist in the group who wasn't comfortable, or was offended by it? Okay, I'm sure you'd be fine with a "sit tight and shut up" solution to that. But what if the majority of your classmates happened to be Muslim, and you're a Christian? Would you be okay with the teacher leading a prayer to Allah?

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I'm thinking that House and Senate sessions have been opened with prayer by one person praying to God for a little over 200 years! And it seems to have worked well!  And The US was not founded by Muslims or Hindu or....... but if every ethnic and foreign religious group was given a time or chance to pray to their god, like was done in the Texas Congress recently, there would be much disruption and no order could prevail.   (Don't we just hate it when someone uses commom sense!!  but if everyone decided to impose their individual right to jaywalk across the Turner Turnpike, someone is going to die and the traffic is going to be in a snarl for sure! )

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Ram....

We weren't founded on Hinduism. We were founded on Christian principles. In countries practicing other religions you would play by their rules or you wouldn't practice at all.

Of course when I went to school most of the teachers were American born and bred and New Age theology had not been introduced by the pshycodelic types holding flowers and wrapping their lips around Mary Jane.

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96harley -

You can keep repeating that "we were founded on Christian principles" all you like, but it won't make it any closer to the truth. I suppose if you want to water down the meaning of the word "principles" to its weakest form, you could make some kind of attempt at this argument, but the fact is, history does not support, in any way, the idea that this country is founded on the Christian religion. For more on this topic and a bucketful of evidence, please see this link.   I will also refer you to a quote signed by John Adams from the Treaty of Tripoli: "The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan nation."

One thing you are right about is the idea that in most other countries, people are less free to practice religion that is outside the state sanctioned norms. And this makes my point. This country is the most free in that sense that has ever existed in history. And it is because we have no state-sanctioned religion. But you want to take that away, and make us as bad as them.

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Your're right it's an ALIEN nation.

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Sadly thats the preview of  comming attractions harley. Not if I can help it though. Ill go down screaming.

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This nation was founded on Christian principles. There never was a separation of church and state. Like boudicca said they continue cutting away at our Christian principles. Again no matter what the denomination Christian principles are the same. False religions have no Christian principles in them. They may have ethical counter parts but the key element is the fact that their founders died, were buried, and went back to the soil. My Savour, with whom I have a personal relationship, is alive and it was on these principles that our nation was founded. 

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boudicca said: http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=24052 As the anti-Christian liberals have declared war on Judeo-Christian morals, ethics and culture, this quote says a lot about our sick society. "A young person who can’t even check in with God at the place that he spends the majority of his day isn’t likely to ooze compassion to other people—especially the poor. A heart which lacks prayer is a heart which lacks love."

 

 

Time and again, God's people turned from HIM and worshipped idols, and the fall always began with those in power. Today is no different. God will use HIS servants of correction in order to turn us back to HIM.

Good quote by the way. 

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I don't know where you people went to school, but when I went to school and my kids went, I and they, and nobody I knew prayed in school!  Where does this come from?  Do you happen to have memories that I don't have?  I have four sisters and two brothers and none of them remember praying in school!  We said the pledge of allegiance everyday!  At Christmas we had Christmas programs!  I don't know what you're talking about!  My husband and I are from different states and he doesn't remember praying in school!  What is this praying you're all talking about? Religion was left at  home and Church on Sunday.... Unless you attended a religious school that was the way it was.   As far as Muslims and other religions I don't recall any of them in the schools I attended, nor does anyone else!  This Muslim thing is something completely new to this country!  I think religion should be left outside of school and that goes for all of them!  You're in school to learn, not pray!  There is supposed to be separation of church and state whether you like it or not!  If you want your children to go to a religious school then send them to one.  Public schools are exactly that and not a substitute for religious schools!  Get over it and move on!  Why not start fighting for something that is worth fighting for?  Like the quality of education for starters! 

Now that I got that off my chest let me send you to a site that will tell you what is going to happen to the Christian religion!  The thing you better do up front and pretty darn soon is to get the Federal government out of your schools, and go back to state funded schools!  Start funding you own state schools and get religion out of them and get them back to the basics!  See to it that that is mandatory!

http://www.newswithviews.com/iserbyt/iserbyt36.htm

Now this story is about the NAU - The title - The North American Soviet Union!  Please look through it until you get to the education part of it, and also to the part where Christianity will be outlawed!  Unless you get a grip on the schools and this country you will have no religion! 

Ok Ive read this article before. Im not following how it mixes in with tax exempt status. Or are they connecting it with separation of church and state? That to me is another politically correct term that caught on and no one did anything to stop it. I dont see any basis for that either. I do agree I beleive the government and school system will use it, but illegally as they do with most things that they do.

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sorry ramshackel but this nation is to a christian nation. we just have to figure out how to get rid of god haters like you

WAKE UP we were not founded by any religon...the reason this country was founded was to escape it....hello i hate this lie...and yes some were  christan but not all sorry hate to upset you and please dont give me this bunk well it must have been because you cant commit a murder or steel....no kidding that is only common sense...if it were true then why can i say the lords name in vain, or have an affaire, or worship any god,goddess i want think about it.....

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leftwich said: WAKE UP we were not founded by any religon...the reason this country was founded was to escape it....hello i hate this lie...and yes some were  christan but not all sorry hate to upset you and please dont give me this bunk well it must have been because you cant commit a murder or steel....no kidding that is only common sense...if it were true then why can i say the lords name in vain, or have an affaire, or worship any god,goddess i want think about it.....

leftwich - I don't know where you read in history that the reason this country was founded was to "get away from religion"  that is absolutely not the reason... This country - the United States as we know it today -was founded by a group of people that had the back bone to sail the ocean to get here because they were escaping religious persecution.  They came here so they could practice religion they way they wanted to, and not be told what they should believe.  They "were not" running away from religion, but running so they could practice religion the way they wanted to.  In the end the laws were put into place in the United States that everyone has the right to religious freedom.  The fact that church and state should be separate is also something that has been in place.  Muslims are new to our culture and they are asking for special treatment because of our laws.  Most Americans worship in church and don't take it to work with them.  We don't ask for special treatment because of our religion.  First off our employers wouldn't put up with it.  We have our legal holidays and that is it.  The Muslims want special treatment on a daily basis, not to mention that they expect that we should have to abide by their religious beliefs.  The answer to that is keep your religion at home and in your Mosque.  Don't bring it out on the street because we will not recognize your religion because we each have our own religion.  That is our right as Amercan citizens and under our Constitution. 

Ok, but what about the fact that America was flooded with prisoners of the English? Some were heritics, some murderers, some thieves. They were put into boats just like the Christian settlers. If you would pick up a history book and read it, you'd see that for yourself. To say that Christianity founded this nation is not exactly true. Catholics, Jews, Wiccans, Muslims, Voodoo priestesses, the whole nine yards were here as well. Slaves and moneyholders, titled royalty and peasants. Some of the settlers were sent here because of tax evasion. Some of the women that settled here were sent here by their husbands to get rid of them. Why? Because divorce wasn't sanctioned by the Church of England.

As a matter of fact, people in my religion aren't allowed to take "our" holidays off. We have to take the holiday as a "personal" day and that's it.

This country is a mix of all. Just because some won't accept it doesn't mean we aren't here. To say that is ignorance.

Blessed Be

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