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March 31, 2007 02:59 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo6KIusCBoU

Great job Ron Paul! I oppose the civil war too!! :)

I KNEW he was going to get that pop from the crowd with his excellent response to global warming too.

The Ron Paul machine is picking up steam, there's a very good shot for him to win the primary once these debates start. I've already made up my mind, whether or not he wins the primary my write-in vote will be Ron Paul for president.

For more recent videos click on the YOU TUBE icon on his updates page of his website here: http://www.ronpaul2008.com/html/Lates...




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March 31, 2007 06:13 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Couldn't open it. Sorry.  Concisely, what does he believe?

I've little information on Ron and would like to know more--for if we're to assure a democrat wins the white house by writing him in, we'll have to live with the consequences of making that statement--which is not okay for me. 

 

 




Liberals: wrong before, wrong now.
March 31, 2007 07:16 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Click the video, or click on the link to it.  It's still working.

Visit his campaign site for some of his beliefs: www.ronpaul2008.com. Basically his beliefs are derived in the principles of freedom and liberty, and his ultimate goal is to restore the Constitution as the Supreme Law of the Land.

Who is the Democrat?  Tell me is there a difference between Rudy McRomney and Hillary Obama?  Let's look at George W. Bush.......Federal government has increased in size more than any other administration's since LBJ.  He wants amnesty for 20-30 million illegal aliens.  Tells the Mexican citizens that we can do MORE for them.  Believes in policing the world and nation building.  Never vetoed any spending bills.  Denies citizens habeus corpus by declaring them enemy combatants.  Overall furthers the proliferation of the U.S. as a police state rather than the government our founding fathers intended.  He takes our money and subsidizes special interests throughout various industries, to various demographics of people, and to various nations.  Promotes further socialized healthcare and socialized education alongside democrats.  Hmmm, yes I would've felt MUCH better about my vote if I had voted for Pat Buchanan in 2000, and Michael Peroutka (Or Michael Badnarik) in 2004.  

Vote your convictions (which should be based on politicians following THEIR law and the principles of freedom and liberty), not the lesser of two evils.  Here's a couple of articles that talk about this fallacy of voting the lesser of two evils (still voting for evil):

http://www.scconstitutionparty.com/Do... - Don't Waste Your Vote

http://www.fee.org/publications/the-f... - The Lesser of Two Evils

 

 




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March 31, 2007 07:36 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I went ot the site and agree with him on everyting posted under issues--I'll support him 100% in the primaries.

You're right about a lot of people making their choice on the basis of the "lesser."  I'm not happy about it, so please understand.  Many did that in November and we have what we have.

The democrat controlled congress has already sabotaged the war effort and prepared a tax plan--the GOP is weak and afraid--government grows, debt grows... war is controlled by the PC crowd in Washington, making it more likely our troops are killed rather than an all out effort done to lay waste to our enemies...

I hope Ron is successful and runs against Mrs. Bill Clinton.  That's all I can say.  In the general election, I'll vote against the falling wall.      




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March 31, 2007 07:45 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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A. Hudd,

Great response!  I'm glad you support his positions, but remember that the issues are derived from his main goal of respecting our Constitution.  He truly is a founding father reincarnate.  There are some decent individuals in our federal government like Tom Tancredo, Duncan Hunter, Tom Coburn but none of them could be labeled Founding Father material in my opinion. 

Your signature states "Liberalism is a mental disorder", and I would agree with that if we're going by the modern day socialist labeling of liberals.  Though now that I know what a TRUE liberal is (representative of mises.org) I cannot say that I am not one.  Nor am I a not a true conservative.  If you get a chance read the wikipedia entries for "Classical Liberal" and "paleoconservative".  Though I guess modern day socialist liberals and neoconservatives are really not that much far apart either.  I would simply say that big government is a mental disorder.  

By the way, here is another good Ron Paul site you might like which is updated quite frequently: www.DailyPaul.com

Please sign up for updates from him on his campaign site at: http://www.ronpaul2008.com/forms/join...

There is also another video I posted of him in this forum a few topics down that I think you would also like.  




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April 1, 2007 05:05 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated April 1, 2007 05:18 AM

I'll sign up for his updates--there's much to do...

Liberal as I think of it now is defined by the transition many in the country made since the sixties... defined and made more socialist since the Reagan era I believe.  As a point of history, my Great Uncle, George Huddleston (representative; Birmigham district) was an old time liberal out of the thirties and being that most of my family was/is Catholic, we supported the farm, WPP, financial regulations and safeguards and President Roosevelt in the day... President Truman and John Kennedy...

Since Mondale ran, we have almost universally changed our party affiliation and will never go back.

 




Liberals: wrong before, wrong now.
April 1, 2007 10:59 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I am a big proponent of Fair Tax, and Libertarian economics.

 

But, foreign policy, drug policy, and on a local level, zoning laws keeps me from being a Libertarian (Full disclosure, I was a potential Libertarian candidate for Port Commissioner in my little town).

 

Another thing that worries me about him is his parroting of the Truther opinion about 9-11, the idea that the Iraq war is being fought to benefit big oil.  That was said about Afganistan, and the big oil pipeline project that war was supposedly about has yet to be built.

 

I think the only thing a Ron Paul candidacy will guarantee is a democrat victory. 




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April 1, 2007 01:14 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Liberty Card said: I am a big proponent of Fair Tax, and Libertarian economics. But, foreign policy, drug policy, and on a local level, zoning laws keeps me from being a Libertarian (Full disclosure, I was a potential Libertarian candidate for Port Commissioner in my little town). Another thing that worries me about him is his parroting of the Truther opinion about 9-11, the idea that the Iraq war is being fought to benefit big oil. That was said about Afganistan, and the big oil pipeline project that war was supposedly about has yet to be built. I think the only thing a Ron Paul candidacy will guarantee is a democrat victory.

 

 

Based on your post, and especially the last sentence, it hardly sounds as if you're even a small l libertarian.  

Read my post above, if a democrat wins, is it going to be any different or really matter?  

I am libetarian in ideaology but also did not want to join the Libetarian Party for a number of reasons.

You may prefer a more paleoconservative party like the AFP.  Check them out: www.AmericaFirstParty.org

This country NEEDS Ron Paul to be president in 2008!  There is nobody else in Congress right now who is Founding Father material and gets the principle of liberty like Dr. Paul.




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April 1, 2007 02:32 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Liberty--Ron is a regisgtered Republican and serves as a Republican rep from Texas--he is someone who understands the absolute frustration with the party many of us have--and he's no dim dem.  Its time we had a truly honest, God fearing person form Congress elected as the President. 

Everything else we have aren't as good.  Gingrich is smart but there's no way.  The media will tear him apart and people with a two-second span of attention will vote against him and for a dim.

The time is now to start this thing--a year and a half is a long time.  Many will fade and few will emerge.  I hope one of those few is Ron. 




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April 1, 2007 03:38 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Ok now I know why I dont watch Bill Maher....lol

That was funny what he said about corporations being worse then the government. Our problem right now is that they are controlling the government...lol




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April 1, 2007 06:44 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Besides the fact that Ron Paul has a snowballs chance of getting the nomination,  he's a conspiracy theorist when it comes to 9/11.  I won't be voting for him.


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April 1, 2007 07:21 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Firewing,

First off, you should tell the truth.  You don't like Ron Paul because he's a Constitutionalist.  You want to have the Constitution one way when it suits YOUR needs but then ignore/usurp it when it comes to another issue.  

Unlike the candidates you probably like, Ron Paul actually divulges his thoughts week after week on every topic imaginable.  

Instead of smearing Ron Paul and the Constitution, you could take a few minutes and maybe READ these founding documents, and then read Ron Paul's articles where he gives no indication that the government created a fake video of planes hit the Towers, and that they blew up the buildings themselves.  If you're suggesting that the Federal Reserve and our monetary policy is not all a conspiracy than you're right in line with the majority of other ignorant Americans.  

Ron Paul Article Archives: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-...

- 9/11 Was Preventable: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/paul4.html

- The Lessons of 9/11: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul1...

- The 9/11 Commission Fraud: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul2...

- The 9/11 Stupidity Bill: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul2...

His Articles on Terrorism in General:

- Economic Terror: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/paul1...

- Intervention Begets Terror: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul4...

- Armed Citizens are a Public Good: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul5...

- Don't Believe the Lies (National ID): http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul2...

- Suicide Terrorism: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul2...

 

Now I'm sure what you're going to do is look through these articles, and do a Michael Moore/MoveOn.org style mis-quoting bits and pieces of things out of context rather than reading the article for its meaning as a whole.  I hope you're content with Rudy McRomney as it's going to be another 4 years of George Bush style Big "dictatorish" Executive Branch type governing if the single candidate Rudy McRomney wins. 




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April 1, 2007 07:57 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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RonPaul08:   First off,  you might win more people to your side of an argument if you refrain from calling them liars.  Also, maybe you consider yourself clairvoyant and able to read the minds of others, if so, be assured, you are mistaken.

Having said that, I came to the conspiracy theortist  conclusion after reading the following:

 Dr. Ron Paul, Texas Congressman exploring a run for President, appeared on The Alex Jones Show Wednesday [MP3 link] and had the following to say about 9/11:
"CALLER: I want a complete, impartial, and totally independent investigation of the events of September 11, 2001 . I'm tired of this bogus garbage about terrorism. Ask Michael Meacher about how he feels about this bogus war on terrorism. Can you comment on that please?

HON. DR. RON PAUL: Well, that would be nice to have. Unfortunately, we don't have that in place. It will be a little bit better now with the Democrats now in charge of oversight. But you know, for top level policy there's not a whole lot of difference between the two policies so a real investigation isn't going to happen. But I think we have to keep pushing for it. And like you and others, we see the investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on.

JACK BLOOD, GUEST HOST: I think it's fair to say that of all the candidates out there, the one most interested in reopening the investigation and clearing the questions is Dr. Paul; and you should be commended for that.

Now, re-reading it, I'm thinking maybe Paul was not responding to the callers "bogus garbage about terrorism" comment.  Maybe he was just responding to his wishes to have the event investigated further.  Although, I am still not thrilled with "it being better now with the Dims in charge" comment nor the comment about the investigations being a cover-up.

As for whom I will be voting for,  I don't yet know.




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April 1, 2007 09:13 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Hmmmmm.


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April 1, 2007 09:19 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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First off, you completely ignored my response.  Second, I'm not trying to win any arguments, you also did not deny what I said.

Lastly, as I had said earlier, you still don't have anything where Ron Paul is saying that the federal government created a film strip of planes hitting the towers, and they planted explosives to destroy the WTC.  To insinuate this from the above comment is borderline libel.

There's obviously things that do not add up in the whole 9/11 report, does this mean that the government created a movie clip of planes hitting the WTC and planted explosives in the towers to fell them?  Obviously not, I don't believe the federal government is capable of pulling this off.  All this means is that the federal government is too big, and incompetent, to even review the FACTS of what happened on 9/11.  Sounds like somebody is a conspiracy theorist around here but certainly not Ron Paul.

What did you think of the video and his articles about 9/11 and terrorism?




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April 1, 2007 11:55 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated April 3, 2007 04:37 AM

FireWing! I believe you answered the question and responded well and you made a good point. and the remark; Michael Moore/MoveOn.org style mis-quoting,......... appears as a smoke screen and meerly a personal attack!??(in leu of facts!)

To be arrogant, as perhaps your "attacker" is being because of not enough FACTS, I may inject a little radical tone here myself! He would have to be an apostle or prophet ALMOST, before I could trust a Doctor!! LOL And especially if he thinks Democrats would be more fair and credible.

YeP! I just want to know more of Tom Tancredo and Fred Thompson! (certainly not Tommy Thompson!) AND I surely do not think the Democrats are going to be more consise, credible, and thorough in doing an investigation of 911. Dr. Paul may have a "supporter" that has a tone not in the best interest of gaining other supporters!

 




April 2, 2007 01:36 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Hello all!

 

In response to the 9/11 conspiracy theories, Dr. Paul does not subscribe to them.   He clearly thinks our foreign policy is insane and that 9/11 type events can be minimized by having a smaller global footprint. 

 

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/con...

 

HON. RON PAUL OF TEXAS
BEFORE THE US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

April 22, 2004

The Lessons of 9/11

We are constantly admonished to remember the lessons of 9/11.  Of course the real issue is not remembering, but rather knowing what the pertinent lesson of that sad day is.

The 9/11 Commission soon will release its report after months of fanfare by those whose reputations are at stake.  The many hours and dollars spent on the investigation may well reveal little we don’t already know, while ignoring the most important lessons that should be learned from this egregious attack on our homeland.  Common sense already tells us the tens of billions of dollars spent by government agencies, whose job it is to provide security and intelligence for our country, failed.

<snip>

Unfortunately, the biggest failure of our government will be ignored.  I’m sure the Commission will not connect our foreign policy of interventionism—practiced by both major parties for over a hundred years—as an important reason 9/11 occurred.  Instead, the claims will stand that the motivation behind 9/11 was our freedom, prosperity, and way of life.  If this error persists, all the tinkering and money to improve the intelligence agencies will bear little fruit.




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April 2, 2007 01:47 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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rogerf:  Thank you for your support!    

I didn't respond to RP08 again because he seemed, well, a little dense and I didn't think it would matter what I said.   I'm more interested in Tancredo and Thompson at this point also.  I only hope they will have some chance at the nomination when it seems it will cost millions of dollars to run a campaign.  Hillary already has $36 million in her campaign fund.




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April 2, 2007 03:01 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I can't vote for Thompson at this time because I've read he has voted NO on banning affirmative action hiring with federal funds, and also I do not know his opinion on the USA PATRIOT Act.

Ron Paul is my candidate at this point. He does need to come out against insane conspiracy theories without alienating people who are asking responsible, legitimate questions. The 9/11 Commission was a waste and a fraud.

About the Bill Maher segment: What was Maher's problem? Anytime Ron Paul got a positive reaction, Maher had to say "still against the Civil War." Pretty weak if you ask me. Bill Maher is not anti-establishment, he's just another Democrat. No new ideas at all, not even funny ones. I wish Ron Paul could get the same attention on every show they gave him on Lou Dobbs. 

April 2, 2007 03:03 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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war aside, Ron Paul is definitely worth taking a Hard look at after seeing this video.  I clicked on it and it took me to some other videos on you tube.

  Ron Paul would end Federal Income Tax

 there are more reasons, but i'm finished, that alone gets my vote for him.  I barely make enough as it is, interest rates are rising.  Ron will let me keep it and back it with gold again.

Bam, you are the man Ron Paul!  Go RON!


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