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March 11, 2007 03:44 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Here's one of many "feel sorry for the illegals" articles that uses the rugrats to get sympathy. I say deport them all! Also, change the laws so that kids illegals make are not American citizen anchor babies.

No, Governor Deval Patrick, this is NOT a "humanitarian crisis." (Yes, my name here is a "tribute" to him. That's right, I did not vote for him.)

AP Impact: Immigration raids split families

HOUSTON --They are the hidden side of the government's stepped-up efforts to track down and deport illegal immigrants: Toddlers stranded at day care centers or handed over to ill-equipped relatives. Siblings suddenly left in charge of younger brothers and sisters.

When illegal-immigrant parents are swept up in raids on homes and workplaces, the children are sometimes left behind -- a complication that underscores the difficulty in enforcing immigration laws against people who have put down roots and begun raising families in the U.S.

Three million American-born children have at least one parent who is an illegal immigrant; one in 10 American families has mixed immigration status, meaning at least one member is an immigrant here illegally, according to the Pew Center for Hispanic Research and the office of U.S. Rep. Jose Serrano. Children born in the U.S. are automatically American citizens and are not subject to deportation.

This past week in Massachusetts, most of the 361 workers picked up in a raid at a New Bedford leather-goods factory that made vests and backpacks for the U.S. military were women with children, setting off what Democratic Gov. Deval Patrick called a "humanitarian crisis."

Community activists scrambled to locate the children, offer infant-care tips to fathers unfamiliar with warming formula and changing diapers, and gather donations of baby supplies. One baby who was breast-feeding had to be hospitalized for dehydration because her mother remained in detention, authorities said.

Child-care arrangements had to be made for at least 35 youngsters.

Officials of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement division released at least 60 of the workers who were sole caregivers to children, but more than 200 were sent to detention centers in Texas and New Mexico.

"What is going to happen to the children? These children are American-born," said Helena Marques, executive director of the Immigrant Assistance Center in New Bedford. "There are hundreds of children out there without their moms, in tremendous need. These babies have become the victims of a problem that legislators can't seem to fix."

One mother was located in Texas after her 7-year-old child called a state hot line set up to help reunite the families, authorities said. The Massachusetts governor said the woman would be returned to Massachusetts.

Massachusetts sent 37 social workers to Texas on Saturday to interview some of the women under arrest. Massachusetts Health and Human Services Secretary JudyAnn Bigby said the parents must be interviewed to make sure their youngsters are staying with responsible adults.

Authorities said some of the women might be so afraid their youngsters will be taken away that they have refused to disclose they have children.

ICE officials defended their handling of the raid, saying ICE made arrangements in advance with social service agencies to care for the children. ICE spokesman Marc Raimondi said all immigrants arrested by ICE are interviewed to determine if they are the sole parent of their children. ICE then can grant humanitarian releases, as they did in 60 cases in Massachusetts.

"We can only base our response by what we are learning by (the state Department of Social Services). What DSS has told us is they are not aware of any child who was left in an inappropriate or risky setting, nor have they had to put any child in foster care," Raimondi said.

As for the parents' ultimate fate, being a single parent or the family breadwinner offers no special protection against deportation, said another ICE spokesman, Mike Keegan.

"They made a decision to come into the country illegally," he said. "It's hard to believe that someone would not know of the consequences when they get caught."

U.S. Rep. William Delahunt said Sunday there would be a Congressional investigation into the raid.

Many of the New Bedford children are in the care of friends or relatives, who are juggling families and jobs of their own. One woman, who asked not to be identified for fear it would put her family in greater legal jeopardy, is looking after the three children of her sister, one of the workers detained in the raid. The children's father and another sister take turns watching the children.

"My sister calls every morning asking about her children," the woman said in Spanish. "She is usually a happy person, but now she is so depressed because she is separated from them, and they are so small."

Two of the children, 4-year-old Angel and 1-year-old Amanda, are U.S. citizens. A 17-year-old came with his mother from Guatemala. Their mother, who came to the United States 10 years ago, has worked in the factory for two years.

"The children go to sleep crying and asking for their mother. They feel her absence," the woman said. "And we can do is wait and wait, and hope they don't deport her."

Under pressure to crack down on illegal immigrants, ICE has intensified enforcement activity around the country. The efforts have yielded results -- since last May, one particular crackdown, called Operation Return to Sender, has snared 13,000 people, while other federal initiatives have caught thousands of others. But the raids have led to a growing outcry from immigrant advocates and activists who say thousands of families are being split apart.

After nearly 1,300 people were arrested in December in raids at Swift & Co. meatpacking plants in Texas, Colorado, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska and Utah, community activists reported hearing of scores of children left on their own. Swift donated $300,000 to United Way agencies to help the families affected by the raids.

Since the December raids hit the Swift plant at Greeley, Colo., Catholic Charities in Denver has provided assistance to about 160 families or individuals, said Ernie Giron, the charity's vice president for mission and ministry. That has included rent or mortgage checks, helping with utility bills, and providing phone and grocery store gift cards.

Giron said the number of people seeking aid has begun to drop from its peak in mid-February. "But a number of families are still hanging on just trying to get through until they have to make some kind of life choice in terms of which way they're going," he said.

In Houston, a newly formed coalition of community groups, churches and advocacy organizations is scrambling to help dozens of families struggling to stay afloat after a husband or wife was taken away. And residents of an apartment complex in Houston that has been raided several times have formed an emergency child care network, which jumps in to care for children left alone by a deported parent.

"The Department of Homeland Security is just carrying out the law they have to carry out. Under the law, there is no legal basis for considering the rights of families. Congress may have to act for that to change," Urban Institute demographer Randolph Capps said.

Rep. Jose Serrano, D-N.Y., is sponsoring a bill now before the House Judiciary Committee that would give immigration judges more discretion in weighing the effect on families when deporting an illegal immigrant.

But any immigration reform legislation will probably have a tough time passing Congress in the current political climate, said Bob Stein, a political scientist at Rice University in Houston.

"Immigration reform seemed like something Democrats and Republicans could agree on, but partisan fighting and the presidential campaigns make it hard for any candidate to carry the battle," he said.

Until 1996, immigration judges were allowed to consider family hardship when deciding whether to deport legal residents charged with certain crimes. That changed under an immigration reform law.

Luissana Santibanez, a 23-year-old student at the University of Texas in Austin, has been taking care of three younger siblings while their mother, Sergia, held in a Houston immigration detention center for nearly 18 months, fights deportation.

Sergia Santibanez, a legal resident for more than 15 years, was ordered deported after she served four months behind bars for transporting illegal immigrants. She said the illegal immigrants were three friends who asked for a ride, and that she didn't know their immigration status and never asked.

"The hardest thing is that my children are suffering and I can't do anything about it," Sergia, who worked in a factory and cleaned houses before her arrest, said by telephone from the detention center. "This will destroy their future."

Luissana has been supporting her two brothers and one sister on food stamps and student grants. All are U.S. citizens.

"As a country, we should not put our youngest citizens at risk of hunger, homelessness and living without parents," said Ali Noorani, executive director of the Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition. "Our immigration system has to be squared with values." 

© Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company

 

 

 

 




The picture is of a package of 12 rollos suaves colores Scott tissue, 1000 hojas por rollo; subtitled 12 rolls soft colors Scott tissue, 1000 sheets per roll. This comes from a local grocery store. Please don't let this country go down the toilet!
March 11, 2007 04:13 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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The anchor babies are not citizens of the U.S. and that is a fact!  I'm tired of the illegals turning our Constitution around to suit their needs.  If you go to this address you too will understand in plain "English" what our forefathers had to say about citizenship.  Please read this.  As far as children being separated from their parents, I say go get them and ship them home with their parents.  That is where they belong... 

 

http://www.federalistblog.us/2005/12/birthright_citizenship_fable.html

 

People don't forget the March For America!  Go here and join the March!  Save our country!  Do your part to insure that we stay a sovereign nation... If millions of Mexicans can march in "our' streets then we should be able to pull together many more millions of Americans to march for our rights!

http://www.lframerica.com/march2.html

March 11, 2007 05:58 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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After reading this I fired off an e-mail to Rep Delahunt telling him in no uncertain terms that the illegals, full well knowing they could be deported for violating our immigration laws  should have made alternate plans for their children should that happen. Further that Americans are tired of illegals and pro-immigration groups using children as a shield against their wrong doing. If they truly cared about their children they would have taken steps to come to this country legally instead of entering illegally then having anchor babies to try to assure they would get a free pass.

 Also since he is going to demand an investigation I told him to ask congress why our immigration laws are not being enforced. Why groups  that are aiding and abetting illegals & employers along with the illegals marching in our streets demanding rights are not being brought up on charges of sedition.

Whew......OK, I must now go take my blood pressure medicine.

March 11, 2007 07:13 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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This kind of reminds me of the people who climb mountains in the dead of winter and stormy weather and then emergency teams have to risk their own lives to go rescue them. Are they trying to convince us that these people didnt know they were breaking the law and didnt know their children were at risk if they got caught. A parent citizen would be arested for neglect and failure to supply ulternate plans. These bleeding heart politicians are just using these people to make sure their plans get carried out. I dont go for it one bit. And Im a mom and a grandma. Once I didnt make it home in time to pick up my child when the bus came from work, and they brought my child back to the school where a Human services representative and a policeman were waiting. Dont you tell me Im accountable and they are not. Liars.


Deport congress and the president!!
March 11, 2007 07:26 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I completely agree and in doing so I am 'politically incorrect'. Our government, our Congress, our State Governors and Legislators, our President ... all of our government has become a bunch of impotent old men and women who can only babble incoherently, spewing forth 'woe is me' dribble about the illegals. No where is there to be found any REAL men and women who are interested in representing THE PEOPLE. The definition of THE PEOPLE in this case is : legal, law abiding, US citizens who pay our taxes and expect the government to enforce the law and do what is right - not what is politically expedient. If I ran for Congress from North Carolina on a platform of use the military to evict all the illegals - AFTER first securing our borders - would you vote for me ? Would I win ? Would other likeminded US citizens also run for Congress with the same platform ? Could we bond together and change the system ? What say you ?
March 11, 2007 07:30 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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does anyone know the latest on this wench hiding in that church in Chicago with her kid and stolen social security number.?
March 11, 2007 07:31 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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they need to move her fanny back to mexico right now!
March 11, 2007 07:33 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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i am mad as hell at the bleeding heart liberal's who want to throw are laws in the trash. this has to stop if we want freedom. lets enforce are laws and deport the law breakers.
March 11, 2007 09:51 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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The last I heard she is still there. I think she will stay holed up until Bush, Kennedy,Chamber of Commerce & LaRaza can force amnesty on us.

The first time she entered the country it was a misdemeanor . then when she was caught and sent back to Mexico and came back in again, she is now a felon according to own laws.

March 11, 2007 10:43 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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If you talk to these illegals, they live in constant fear that the husband will be picked up and deported. I've seen them leave in Houston in droves because ICE was going to bust companies who employed them. If a mom is abandoned because the husband has been deported, she has no money to feed the children and that rightly puts them in a real state of panic. They will leave first to avoid that. They are uneducated, can't read nor write their own language, much less ours. But, they are street smart and know what's going on....trust me!
March 11, 2007 11:25 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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I am so sick of hearing that same bit of stupidity. If I commited any crime I would go to jail and my wife and two kids would have to make it without me. The thought of breaking up my family would not slow down some federal prosecutor or government type  at all. I have been thinking about going on a major crime spree, then demanding amnesty. Does anybody think I would get it, or that I even should?
March 12, 2007 12:04 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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devaldeluxe said: Here's one of many "feel sorry for the illegals" articles...    

To her credit, only Gail M even mentioned the root cause of this problem.  Why is it that so many find it sooo difficult to point at employers.  Is it because they all are working for somebody and they fear, for some groundless reason, that if they utter the word "employer" as being the cause of all the illegal immigration problems that they will lose their income?

Or is it because they ARE employers and realize that DIVERSIONS, like building a FENCE and bashing all the illegal aliens, will take attention off the real solution?  All the social problems from illegal aliens are just symptoms of the underlying problem, which is that businesses/corporations want to maximize their profits by paying as little as they can to those who work for them.

If everyone who posted on this site used the word "employer" once in their post I believe very soon we would see action being taken to address the problem of illegal immigration.

 




We don't need new "comprehensive" immigration laws. We need widespread, well funded enforcement of existing immigration law, i. e. IRCA 1986. http://www.oig.lsc.gov/legis/irca86.htm ANYTHING ELSE IS JUST A BIG CHARADE! Remember the Alamo AND Agents Compean, Ramos, Brugman, Sipe, Rhodes, Deputy Sheriff Hernandez, K-9 Officer Mohr & Noe Aleman. ***Redress it all by repealing the 17th Amendment to the U. S. Constitution: http://www.articlev.com/repeal_the_17...
March 12, 2007 07:47 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Yes, the employers should be punished if they employ illegals. Still, anyone who is here illegally should be deported; that includes the kiddies.


The picture is of a package of 12 rollos suaves colores Scott tissue, 1000 hojas por rollo; subtitled 12 rolls soft colors Scott tissue, 1000 sheets per roll. This comes from a local grocery store. Please don't let this country go down the toilet!
March 12, 2007 08:47 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Comment updated March 12, 2007 08:52 PM

Is that the tempting, pleasing aroma of Christian values like compassion and love of one's fellow man?

Sadly, it's the stink of hate and evil - pure, unadulterated hate and evil.

 Self-described conservatives are fond of couching issues in a "save the children" frame - it's all about the children, protect the children, etc, etc. I guess protecting children from harm and poverty applies only to white, American children.

How sad that so-called christians have such hatred in their hearts. That is insult to true Christians who live their faith.

The stench here makes me sick, but not sick enough to keep me away.

Till next time.  Paz

March 12, 2007 08:57 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Follow up: http://tinyurl.com/2o2vef

Mass. agency wants release of more detainees in Texas 

BOSTON --Department of Social Services officials returned to Massachusetts Monday, awaiting word on whether federal authorities would release for humanitarian reasons nearly two dozen people being detained in Texas after an immigration raid at a New Bedford factory.

Three dozen DSS employees traveled to Texas over the weekend to interview more than 200 detainees moved there after the roundup last Tuesday of 361 alleged illegal immigrants -- mostly from Central America -- at Michael Bianco Inc., a company that makes equipment and apparel for the U.S. military.

The employees recommended late Sunday that 21 people be returned to Massachusetts, DSS Commissioner Harry Spence said. Immigration officials in Texas are releasing nine of those 21 on Monday, said Russ Knocke, spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security in Washington, D.C.

"They still have to go through the deportation process," DSS spokeswoman Denise Monteiro said. "We just need them to have some time to secure that their child is safe and with a long-term caregiver."

U.S. Sen. Edward Kennedy, in a letter sent Monday to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, asked that all detainees be returned to Massachusetts and then released with appropriate supervisory provisions. He also asked that Chertoff meet with him and other members of the state's Congressional delegation this week, and to release the names of the detainees and their location.

Kennedy wrote the steps would "ensure fair treatment of those arrested and attempt to repair in some small measure the damage caused to hundreds of individuals in New Bedford."

In response to Kennedy's request, Knocke said the department has to enforce the law and added that at least 20 percent of the immigrants snared in the raid had already received deportation orders.

"We have to enforce the law and we will continue to do so in an aggressive and sensible way," Knocke said. "Not enforcing the law is not an option."

Spence said most of the people he asked to be returned to the state are women and either the sole or primary caregivers of their children, Spence said. One woman has cancer. The group also includes a 17-year-old boy, he said. Knocke said the boy is 18.

Spence has said the children of those he wants released range in age from 2 to 16, and a few had medical conditions that required special care, including one child that required a feeding tube. All were believed to be born in the United States and therefore are U.S. citizens.

Knocke countered that only two of the immigrants Spence has requested returned are primary caregivers.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman Marc Raimondi said the agency was reviewing the requests and would take appropriate action.

He said each detainee also was interviewed multiple times by federal authorities, which led to the release of at least 60 alleged illegal immigrants shortly after the raid, mostly because they needed to care for their children.

"My information is there's still not a child left in a risky or inappropriate situation," he said.

Raimondi added that 55 of those detained already had been ordered removed from the country. Eleven others had re-entered the United States after removal, he said.

"We will continue to evaluate individual cases, and believe that pending immigration hearings before a judge will give detainees yet another opportunity to plead their case," Raimondi said.

The trip to Texas was arranged amid concerns by Gov. Deval Patrick and other state officials that not all the children of those detained had been identified or assured proper care.

In the days following the raid, a 7-month-old child was hospitalized for dehydration because the breast-feeding infant refused to drink formula and the mother was in custody for two nights. Another mother was located in Texas after her 7-year-old child called a hot line state officials created to reunite families.

But Spence said worries that some children may still fall through the cracks have diminished because of the additional interviews.

"I think that worry is very, very significantly narrowed," he said.

DSS and federal immigration authorities must report to a federal judge by the end of business Tuesday on the status of any unresolved cases involving children. U.S. District Judge Richard Stearns made the order after a request was filed by the consul general of Guatemala.

Stearns also ordered that no other alleged illegal immigrants be removed from Massachusetts, and said he would consider whether he has jurisdiction over the detainees being held outside Massachusetts. 

 




The picture is of a package of 12 rollos suaves colores Scott tissue, 1000 hojas por rollo; subtitled 12 rolls soft colors Scott tissue, 1000 sheets per roll. This comes from a local grocery store. Please don't let this country go down the toilet!
March 12, 2007 09:19 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Arby J. Brown said: Is that the tempting, pleasing aroma of Christian values like compassion and love of one's fellow man? Sadly, it's the stink of hate and evil - pure, unadulterated hate and evil. Self-described conservatives are fond of couching issues in a "save the children" frame - it's all about the children, protect the children, etc, etc. I guess protecting children from harm and poverty applies only to white, American children. How sad that so-called christians have such hatred in their hearts. That is insult to true Christians who live their faith. The stench here makes me sick, but not sick enough to keep me away. Till next time. Paz

 

 

I'm not a religious person and didn't bring Christianity or any other religion into this.

This isn't about hate and evil, but people who break the law. I have co-workers who are LEGAL immigrants who entered this country the proper way; some of the places they came from are China, Russia, and Pakistan.

Yes, framing issues in a "it's for the children" way is done by both conservatives and liberals because too many people fall for it. It is not limited to those of a certain color or nationality.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




The picture is of a package of 12 rollos suaves colores Scott tissue, 1000 hojas por rollo; subtitled 12 rolls soft colors Scott tissue, 1000 sheets per roll. This comes from a local grocery store. Please don't let this country go down the toilet!
March 12, 2007 10:04 PM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Arby J Brown.........

If I understand you correctly, a Christian would support the exploitation of children by politicians, churches and pro-immigration groups for their hidden agenda. The photo ops during the Day Without a Mexican March showing a Hispanic child draped in an American Flag.....so you really think she thought of that herself? The Mexican reps that did an interview with the son of the woman holed up in a church in Chicago, placing him between them and nudging him which prompted him to wince in pain then they said "see how upset he is"? Recently the children in New York that were burned alive because a landlord making a buck, saw nothing wrong with housing 11 people in that dwelling full well knowing they wouldn't report the living conditions because they were illegal. The recent raid on the leather factory that caused such an uproar because children were being separated from their mothers.,when the reality is the employer is to blame for hiring the illegals in the first place.

The mind set that we should forget we are being over run by illegals, &  forget they broke our laws because they have children is what is leading to the demise of the United States. Our government is counting on the American people to do just that......give the illegal parents who bore a child on US soil a free pass.

And the last time I checked, we have hundreds of thousands of children of American Citizens and Legal Immigrants that are living below poverty of all colors. Don't you think as Americans we should help them first? Or would that be anti-christian too. 

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March 15, 2007 10:48 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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Arby,

I am getting tired of you talking about how Christians are supposed to be all "love and compassion" and holding hatred in their hearts.  Yes, we're supposed to forgive and love our neighbor, etc.. But we also stand strong against what we know to be wrong, no matter what our naysayers may be saying.  Being Christian doesn't always mean being a softie. Try reading Jeremiah. He asked to build a wall around his city to keep out invaders, and people told him all the reasons he couldn't do it, and why it would be bad.  The King even laughed at him and told him it couldn't be done.  But guess what? He did it anyway.  

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The crazey thing about this whole agenda is that the boss man wants slaves again. These people will not be treated fair and will live in squaller to send money back home. In the process of trashing everything they live near and in they will be abused as no american would be allowed to be. The fact that they drive down the wages for american workers is just dragging the rest of americans into that abuse with them.


Deport congress and the president!!
March 15, 2007 11:10 AM    View printable version     Link to this comment   
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The only people I hear yelling to tell christians what they are supposed to be doing is someone who doesnt know what they are supposed to be doing because they dont know God in the first place. They read only parts of a book that fit their purpose and never actually seek the pages to see what God would want them to do personally or even ask Him. Its silly to keep bringing the orientation word and the religion card into an arguement just because you dont like that card. Its about law, our laws that need to be enforced. Show me the law and Ill be ok with it. But try to twist it and you dont get past it.


Deport congress and the president!!

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