Israel is Proof

Liberals, Arabs and all atheists hate Israel for one main reason:  This little state is proof the God does exist and the Bible is true.

 

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The Zionist Movement is a myth created by international banking interests which are controlled by the progeny of Sephardic Jew money lenders. Of course there were several "diasporas" translated dispersions of Juda over many centuries, but perhaps the least discussed in history, but most important was when the Jews were run out of Spain with the Islamic Moors by the Catholic Kings Ferdinand and Isabella beginning in 1492. The elitism of this group within the House of Juda has always brought resentment upon all Jews. It has however, embolden the strength of the Sephardim and the elite which they evolved. Education was always the staff of strength of the Sephardim. It was the Shepardic physicians who had the ears of Emperors and Kings. It was the disporas that spread the network of Jewish money lenders throughout the world in the travel routes and major ports. But it was also the elitist group of Jews who instigated resentment for other poor Jews. The immigration of the Sephardic Jews from them "New Zion" in Amsterdam to Britain after Queen Elizabeth I lifted the "banishment decree" was direct result of the Sepharim's instigation of resentment for Ashkenazi Jews migration into Amsterdam. It had been the expulsion of the Sephardic Jews from Spain that revitalized the international Jewish network however and they were the heart of that network. One must understand the source and powers behind the Zionist movement to understand that it is not Bibical in the sense that it transended Solomon, because it does not, nor do the "hidden" and converted Jews do not represent the entire House of Juda nor the true House of Israel. Juda is only one of the 12 tribes and the ten tribes which were dispersed from the North, Hebron as part of the curse brought upon twelve tribes by Solomon, son of David, executed upon them after his death as GOD had promised David. The present day Zionist agenda is an orchestrated myth used to manipulate political and econonmic control throughout the world by elitist bankers, who could care less about the religious faith of anyone, but just happen to have a common ethinic heritage.

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flmave520 said:
Liberals, Arabs and all atheists hate Israel for one main reason:  This little state is proof the God does exist and the Bible is true.  

All prophecies in the Bible point to the re-gathering of Israelis and what do you know, in 1948, here they come.  Mount Moriah is the most important piece of real estate on this planet to God. It is where Jacob saw the ladder. It is where Abraham almost sacrificed Isaac, and most importantly it is where Solomon originally built the Temple where God's Spirit resided. Some 3500 years ago the Temple was built. Muslims claim the Temple Mount as their 3rd most holy site. Did you know Mohammad wasn't even born until 700 AD, yet Muslims claim they were there first. Israel's Temple will be re-built soon then God will make sure it remains.

 

Reply to flmave520:   I can say that I agree with you wholeheartdly, because I read the Bible too. And yes the prophecies are being fullfilled even now there are hundreds and hundreds of Jews being flown back home to Israel, (their home) the re-gathering is taken place even now. Have you heard about the blue prints to the Re-building of the Temple, I am sure you have ! Keep your eye on Israel sister/brother, Jesus is coming sooner than we think. "Look up for our redemption is drawing close" I have such a love for the Jewish people and their nation ! I use to attend a Messianic (Born-Again Jews) Jewish Congregation, Awesome !!Hoping to be able to go back and worship with them someday.

"May the Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the Love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you."

Saved by His Amazing Grace,

         Laurie.

 

Muhammad plagiarized & distorted Jewish scripture & pseudagraphia in hopes that the Jews would accept him as their Messiah. Most of the Jews he tried to convert saw through his fraud and rejected him. This caused Muhammad to develop an intense hatred for Jews.

    That hatred is reflected in the Qur'an. See: 1:7. 2:89, 9:30 & 98:6.  Israel can never obtain peace while Islam exists. This is because Israel proves Allah to be an impotent idol & his messenger a fraud. 

8:65 USC Fahd

Incitement to fight; promise of unnatural advantage.

O Prophet (Muhammad)! Urge the believers to fight. If there are twenty steadfast persons amongst you, they will overcome two hundred, and if there be a hundred steadfast persons they will overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are people who do not understand.

 Who had superior numbers & equipment in '48, '56,  '67  & '83?  Who lost? Whose promise is void?

    But there is more, which noone else will tell you about. This first hadith refers to the Hijaz, but it reveals Muhammad's attitude with extreme clarity.

B4.53.392 USC

Triumphalism, arrogance, antisemitism &  threat.

Bukhari Volume 4, Book 53, Number 392:     Narrated Abu Huraira:     While we were in the Mosque, the Prophet came out and said, "Let us go to the Jews" We went out till we reached Bait-ul-Midras. He said to them, "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe.You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that ..."

 The next selection directly addresses the issue at hand. Ponder it carefully.

AD14.2477 USC

Why they conqured Israel:

Abu Dawud 14.2477 Narrated Ibn Hawalah:     The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: It will turn out that you will be armed troops, one is Syria, one in the Yemen and one in Iraq. Ibn Hawalah said: Choose for me, Apostle of Allah, if I reach that time. He replied: Go to Syria, for it is Allah's chosen land, to which his best servants will be gathered but if you are unwilling, go to your Yemen, and draw water from your tanks, for Allah has on my account taken special charge of Syria and its people.

 

Ben thank you so much for your input.  There is a  story that after Muhammed learned everything he could from the Hebrews he went back and had 600 hebrew men and boys beheaded because they would not convert to Islam.

Lillulu

flmave520 said:
Liberals, Arabs and all atheists hate Israel for one main reason: This little state is proof the God does exist and the Bible is true.

 

 

You are very wrong. You have not studied to show yourself approved unto God,a workman,who needs not be ashamed, rightly DIVIDING the word of truth.

And if you seriously want to debate this, BASED ONLY ON YAHWEH's scripture, then I'll be happy to oblige.

The EVIL sottish and lazy 'preachers' who are spreading these lies about "Jews" being God's chosen will be taken into account by YAHSHUA for their lies. And those who listen to them and then refuse to study the word for themselves will have no excuse.

They are the ones YAHSHUA referred to, who will be caught 'with child', beause they have been seduced by Satan and they will actually think they are worshipping Christ. But they never even knew HIM because HE is The Word and if you do not study The Word, you cannot know HIM and so HE will not acknowledge you.

Do you know who TRUE Israel is?

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I know hate when I see it.

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A. Hudd said: I know hate when I see it.

 

 

You know very little. Hate is tied to dogma. You speak only dogma. You cannot debate The Word (FACT) so you present one liners -- no research...no thought, but yet you exect to be taken seriously.

The debate BASED ON SCIPTURE is open to you as well, but I doubt you'll accept. I highly doubt you are up to the challenge.

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You don't know me--and I will happily debate the new law with you--your references are either of the old law or from false teachers (that would be Mohammed)--I know you hate Israel.  I know you hate jews.  I know what I read.  If you are unable to express yourself clearly maybe you know little about the language. 

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To Laurie---praise Jesus. HE is coming sooner then anyone thinks.

At my church up north we had one of our missionairies visit from Israel. It was phonominal and had all of us praising, worshipping, singing and crying at the same time.

He stated that ALL the materials are ready and stored for the building of the TEMPLE and that there is only one thing they are waiting for. It states in Scripture that there will be a 10 stringed instrument in the new TEMPLE. Well there has never been a stringed intrument in the TEMPLE, but guess what? We all started to cry because the instrument is there and being very well protected.

We all need to watch the news. Because the TEMPLE will be built and JESUS is coming back soon!!!!!!!!

 Gammi, FL

A. Hudd said: You don't know me--and I will happily debate the new law with you--your references are either of the old law or from false teachers (that would be Mohammed)--I know you hate Israel. I know you hate jews. I know what I read. If you are unable to express yourself clearly maybe you know little about the language.

 

 

Many men have come before me, for whom I am in their debt.

Start in the beginning. Go here http://americanwisdomseries.com/Genes....

Happy reading. 

I make this promise to you. If you have ears to hear and eyes to see, you will see and hear things you have probaby never heard before, but please keep an open mind. If you do, the ENTIRE Bible, which is one complete book, will make sense to you in a way that it probably never has before.  

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Gammi said: To Laurie---praise Jesus. HE is coming sooner then anyone thinks. 

 

 

The first one to come and say he is The Christ (God) is Lucifer, the morning star; a high priest and cherrub who covered one side of the throne of YAHWEH HIMSELF. In the first age, Lucifer is described in the most flattering terms. He was the a very popular tree. He wore the breast plate of the High Priest, with the 12 precious stones and gems of the twelve tribes of Israel.

He will come at the sixth trump; sixth seal, sixth vile. But most will not have studied and they will be seduced. And when YAHSHUA HeMessiach comes at the sound of the seventh trump (beginning of the Sabbath rest) He will find many of His brides with child and He will know they were unfaithful with the anti (instead of) Christ. Lucifer will be blasphemous when he claims the mantle of YAHWEH, just as he tried to do in the first age (let he who has ears, hear what YAHWEH says). WOE! WOE! WOE! unto them that are with child.

Many think (if they bother to read Revelations at all) that the white horse represents Christ. It does not. Quite the opposite and unless that is understood, one becomes ripe for Satan's harvest.

Many people also think that the first woman to be taken in the field is raptured away. Again this is blatant deception, based on the rantings of an insane young woman. The first to be taken in the field will be taken by the anti-Christ, who shall appear FIRST, at the sixth trump, as an angel of light and YAHSHUA HIMSELF. But it will be a lie. They will be taken before the harvest is ready.

The battle will not be physical. It will be spiritual. Everything in the Old Testament is given to us an ensample of the spiritual.

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Elijah said:

flmave520 said:
Liberals, Arabs and all atheists hate Israel for one main reason: This little state is proof the God does exist and the Bible is true.

    You are very wrong. You have not studied to show yourself approved unto God,a workman,who needs not be ashamed, rightly DIVIDING the word of truth.

And if you seriously want to debate this, BASED ONLY ON YAHWEH's scripture, then I'll be happy to oblige.
The EVIL sottish and lazy 'preachers' who are spreading these lies about "Jews" being God's chosen will be taken into account by YAHSHUA for their lies. And those who listen to them and then refuse to study the word for themselves will have no excuse. They are the ones YAHSHUA referred to, who will be caught 'with child', beause they have been seduced by Satan and they will actually think they are worshipping Christ. But they never even knew HIM because HE is The Word and if you do not study The Word, you cannot know HIM and so HE will not acknowledge you. Do you know who TRUE Israel is?

 Reply to :--Elijah

You need to study about "The Fig Tree" when Jesus was talking about the fIg Tree, He was referring to Israel.

Israel (The Jews) are God's chosen people. In scripture He even calls them "The Apple of My Eye"

The  teaching you are getting is hatred against the Jews.

Yes, there are going to be unsaved Jews (that never knew Him) as well as unsaved Gentiles(that never knew Him) during the Tribulation, that is going to be their second chance to repent and call on the name of the Lord during that time. The true Jew is like the Bible says "Anyone whose heart has been circumsized, but the True Israel is Israel. Hope you are not into that "Replacement Theology" where they are teaching we Born-Again Christians are the true Israel. Brother, you need to get out of that, run to the nearest "Exit Door" as fast as you can. I know all about it.

Laurie said:

Reply to :--Elijah You need to study about "The Fig Tree" when Jesus was talking about the fIg Tree, He was referring to Israel. Israel (The Jews) are God's chosen people. In scripture He even calls them "The Apple of My Eye" The teaching you are getting is hatred against the Jews. Yes, there are going to be unsaved Jews (that never knew Him) as well as unsaved Gentiles(that never knew Him) during the Tribulation, that is going to be their second chance to repent and call on the name of the Lord during that time. The true Jew is like the Bible says "Anyone whose heart has been circumsized, but the True Israel is Israel. Hope you are not into that "Replacement Theology" where they are teaching we Born-Again Christians are the true Israel. Brother, you need to get out of that, run to the nearest "Exit Door" as fast as you can. I know all about it.

 

 

Laurie, unfortuntely, you are the victim of shoddy teaching

When studying The Word, you must always ask yourself what the word “Jew” means in any particular verse.

 

It can mean a Judean, which is simply a citizen of Judea. This person may be a Judahite (Yahuda); an Edomite or some other.

 

It can mean an Edomite and may not be a TRUE YAHuda at all.

 

Finally, it can mean a TRUE member of the nation of Israel – a YAHuda

 

Bear in mind that the Southern Kingdom, where the tribes of YAHuda, Benjamin and parts of Levi lived was NEVER called Israel. It was called Judea and its capital was Jerusalem.

 

The Northern Kingdom where the other of the twelve tribes lived was called Israel. It is fitting then, that in these last days, the Edomites have not only stolen the land, which truly belongs to our Brothers; the YAHuda, but they added further insult and stole the name of the remaining tribes for it nation’s name.

 

Now, Ezekiel speaks about the TWO baskets of Figs (figs represent the Tribe of YAHuda) One basket is very good (YAHuda) and one is very, very BAD (Edomites – those who say they are YAHudi but are not and are of their father the devil).

 

There is ample PROOF that the Europeans are the true decedents of the lost tribes. That means that if you are of European blood, chances are you are true bloodline Israelite.

 

He bloodline of ALL Israel (Children of God) as well as the Edomites (Children of Satan are LITERAL and REAL) When you can see this, then the seduction of Eve in the Garden takes on new meaning. She bore Cain of Satan. Cain,  Hebrew means (Possessions). Able came from EhAdam and in Hebrew, his name means “Breath of Life”. God breathed into EhAdam man, HIS very spirit…HIS breath of life, while Cain’s seed is only concerned with material things.  …ad “possession” rose up and slew the “breath of life”. See?

Satan has EVER tried to destroy the seed of EhAdam. It was the seed through which YAHshua HeMessiach was to be born. Read again Jesus’ parable of the sower of the tares among the wheat and see LITERAL seed.

 

Here are some interesting tid-bits:

 

The word BRITISH is comprised of two Hebrew words “BRITH” meaning “Covenant” and “ISH”; meaning “Man”. Covenant Man. People of The Covenant.

 

The British flag is comprised of two Hebrew letters: ALEPH “X” and TAU “+” – the ALPHA and the OMEGA – the beginning and the end.

 

Father YAHWEH promised David; a YAHuda that as long as there were Israelites, there would always be a member of the house of David on the throne. The British monarchy is of YAHuda.

 

The Irish are called Tuatha De Danaan, in Gaelic. Translated, this means “Tribe of Dan”.

 

Many people in Europe are descended from the Saxons. They are ISSAC’s Son’s.

 

And if you STUDY YAHWEH’s promises made to Abraham, you will CLEARLY see, that it is ONLY European peoples who have fulfilled these promises TO A TEE. Those, who call themselves Jews but are not, have NOT fulfilled even ONE of the promises made.

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I think it's pretty clear, after reading most of this, that "Elijah" thinks himself a modern-day prophet (which would also explain the screen name).  The Bible warns about false prophets; anybody who hates the Jews as much as this guy does is being completely deceived.

"Elijah" is an island all unto himself.  According to his theology, every basic Christian tenant completely misunderstood by us "little people" and the standard Christian really doesn't know God's REAL truth (according to Elijah, that is).  It says in Proverbs that a man who isolates himself seeks his own way; he rages against all wise judgments.  It's kinda scary, and probably best to leave this one alone.

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know_thy_enemy said: I think it's pretty clear, after reading most of this, that "Elijah" thinks himself a modern-day prophet (which would also explain the screen name). The Bible warns about false prophets; anybody who hates the Jews as much as this guy does is being completely deceived. "Elijah" is an island all unto himself. According to his theology, every basic Christian tenant completely misunderstood by us "little people" and the standard Christian really doesn't know God's REAL truth (according to Elijah, that is). It says in Proverbs that a man who isolates himself seeks his own way; he rages against all wise judgments. It's kinda scary, and probably best to leave this one alone.

 

 

I now publicly challenge you to DISPROVE one thing I have written. Otherwise, you are digging yourself a pit, deary.

I have NEVER claimed to even be a prophet. And you are a deceiver to even try to imply that Ihave. I think your darkside is showing. 

NOW DISPROVE WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN. 

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My dark side is showing because I am challenging YOU???  Who do you think you are?

I am not messing with you, sir, because you are one scary individual.  But I will pray for you, though.

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know_thy_enemy said: My dark side is showing because I am challenging YOU??? Who do you think you are? I am not messing with you, sir, because you are one scary individual. But I will pray for you, though.

 

 

You lied. That is against the command of Yahweh, but very much in keeping with the ways of the opposser. You implied that I said or thought that am a prophet. You lied and you deceived rather than look at what was written and challenge it with The Word or some proof of some kind. 

You seem  think you can speak for the entire group and say, "Move along people, there's nothing to see here but a crazy man who thinks he is a prophet." I never said I was a prophet, nor have I implied it. And no where can you find that. I also challenged you to disprove one thing I have said or the sin of lies you have said about The Word and its true meaning is multiplied, since I have said alot of things.

You may dismiss me if you want. YAHWEH grants the gift of choice. But Laurie and the rest of the grown ups here are perfectly capable of making up their own minds.

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1.)  If you don't think you are a prophet, then why don't you say so?  You only keep repeating that you have never SAID you thought you were prophet -- I agree that you haven't and never said that you did.  What I said is that, by your statments, it seems clear that you think you are.  So the $64,000 questions is...DO YOU THINK YOU ARE A PROPHET?  Yes or No.

2.)  Trying to talk you out of your crazy Biblical translations and theology is like trying to talk Ted Bundy out of being a serial killer.  You just won't get it, and I am not going to waste my time trying.

3.)  Who are you to say that if I don't answer to YOU, that "the sin of lies (by YOUR definition, not God's) you have said about the word and it's true meaning is multiplied"?  Again, you must think you are a prophet, because you certainly assign a lot of importance to yourself.

4.)  I have seen in the other threads about how the capable people are making up their minds about things you say; People think you are crazy, and I concur.  If everyone is telling you something, it's a good idea for you to listen.

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