Bush Address Imprisoned Border Agents

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The only thing these border patrol officers did wrong was they aimed too low!! A well placed shot to the head of this dirtbag drug dealer and all this controversy could have been avoided!!!

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Bush address this yesterday (2/1/07) on Cavuto:

CAVUTO: Let me ask you, sir, about the
ex-Border Patrol agents, Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, both serving
time in jail for shooting a runaway Mexican drug dealer.

Would you pardon them?

BUSH:
You know, I get asked about pardons on a lot of different cases. And
there's a procedure in place. And what I told members of Congress who
have written me or called was to just look at the case, look at the
facts in the case.

And people need to understand why
these folks were sent to trial and why a jury of their peers convicted
them. And that's, of course, what a president does on any pardon
request.

CAVUTO: So, what are you saying?

BUSH:
I'm saying, I would look at all the facts. And — but there is a process
in any case for a president to make a pardon decision. In other words,
there is a series of steps that are followed, so that the pardon
process is, you know, a rational process.

CAVUTO: Well, they're in jail now. They're not going anywhere.

BUSH: Right. That's right.

CAVUTO: So...

BUSH: So...

(CROSSTALK)

CAVUTO: ... as things stand now, they will stay in jail.

BUSH: As things stand now, they will serve their sentence, right.

CAVUTO: Unless you interfere.

BUSH:
Right. But what I'm trying to tell you is, is that it is — there is a
series of steps that are analyzed in order for the Justice Department
to make a recommendation as to whether or not a president grants a
pardon.

CAVUTO: And we're not at that yet?

BUSH: No, we're not at that stage yet.

 

I wish our Federal and State govt were doing as good a job as those Border Guards did.  Congress should be in prison for dereliction of duty, not Ramos and Compean!

Well put Joyce.  Of course you have to understand this doesn't effect anyone on Congress or any Goverment employee.  They know their retirement will be there and they don't have to relay on Social Security to make ends meet.  They also don't have to worry if they will get SS.  They really need to get their heads out of the sand and look around.

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how can this happen .? what is BUSH waiting on? LET THESE AGENTS GO. this is an outrage.

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The President, and TOO MANY members of Congress, are moe concerned aqbout offending hispanics than about the Border Agents.  The long time hispanic citizens I know are just as outraged over this injustice as anyone else.  We in the border states, who live with the daily crime, rapes, drive by shootings, home invasions and murders want our country back.  We demand strong border enforcement, and bullets in the guns of the National Guard so they don't have to run from the next batch of armed drug runners. Keep up the pressure on President Bush, your Senators and Congressmen.  Enough.  Stop the Invasion and free the Border Agents.

i keep coming back here, just to get more upset. i live in southern california, ITS A MESS HERE. people sleeping in yards that don't belong to them, can someone give me an reason why we have to give up our families, our homes, our land,for peoople who break our laws, take our border agents, national guard. and to make it even harder, GUNS are taken away, harder even more. we are be sued for 5 million dollars, this little turd is being sought out, ALL FOR THE MONEY. who ever went and found him, should be disbared. iam out of here.

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There is nothing in the constitution that says anything about a process a president must follow for a pardon....Bush could pardon these agents today!  Bush doesn't seem to bother to uphold the constitution so why is he so worried about following a "process"?

 

I just watch on discovery time - Inside the Twin Towers.  I can't image anyone watching this and not do something about our borders and not standing behind our Border Patrols.  This is a heart breaking show.  They had a lot of the folks that was in the Twin Towers on the show.  Maybe if we had taken care of our border problems long  before now, the folks that died in 9-11 would still be here.  I, like so many others don't think this is going to be the last attack.  Right now anyone can just come in the USA without much of a problem.  The USA needs to be a problem when it comes to our borders.

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Nancy, if the President can bend the process to start a war and add more troops ...seems like it would be a cakewalk for him to issue a pardon. I believe the President is worried about American business interest in Mexico if he issues a pardon. Our neighbor to the south has pressured the United States in the past and I believe they are doing it now.

One of the reasons why I think Deputy Gilmer Hernandez was sought out and prosecuted is because he happens to be from Rocksprings, Texas. In 1910 a young ranchhand from Mexico was accused of killing a ranchers wife and was lynched in Rocksprings. Immediately afterwards, mobs broke out in Mexico City and along the Texas border attacking American businesses and some other things that angry people do.

So, would there be a lot of angry people in the US if the President didn't pardon Ramos and Compean? Most definitely "Yes". Does he know we won't be going around destroying Mexican businesses and flags. Most definitely "Yes".

Would there be a lot of angry people in Mexico in the President issues a pardon? Most definitely "Yes". You already know the answer to the rest of the questions.

 

Yeah, I am sure Clinton bothered with all those supposed standards and processes that must be undertaken to get a pardon.  Everyone knows that Bush can pardon anyone he darn well chooses without regard to a process.  Bush is a big BIG disappointment.

Tomzer said:
Bush address this yesterday (2/1/07) on Cavuto: CAVUTO: Let me ask you, sir, about the
ex-Border Patrol agents, Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, both serving
time in jail for shooting a runaway Mexican drug dealer. Would you pardon them? BUSH:
You know, I get asked about pardons on a lot of different cases. And
there's a procedure in place. And what I told members of Congress who
have written me or called was to just look at the case, look at the
facts in the case. And people need to understand why
these folks were sent to trial and why a jury of their peers convicted
them. And that's, of course, what a president does on any pardon
request. CAVUTO: So, what are you saying? BUSH:
I'm saying, I would look at all the facts. And — but there is a process
in any case for a president to make a pardon decision. In other words,
there is a series of steps that are followed, so that the pardon
process is, you know, a rational process. CAVUTO: Well, they're in jail now. They're not going anywhere. BUSH: Right. That's right. CAVUTO: So... BUSH: So... (CROSSTALK) CAVUTO: ... as things stand now, they will stay in jail. BUSH: As things stand now, they will serve their sentence, right. CAVUTO: Unless you interfere. BUSH:
Right. But what I'm trying to tell you is, is that it is — there is a
series of steps that are analyzed in order for the Justice Department
to make a recommendation as to whether or not a president grants a
pardon. CAVUTO: And we're not at that yet? BUSH: No, we're not at that stage yet.
 

My, my, isn't it odd when it came to issuing 'Pardons', Mr. Clinton didn't seem to find sooooo many road blocks for pardoning convicted drug dealers and Mr. Rich?

Has the procedure for issuing Presidential pardons changed sooo much for
Border Agents?

 

  We keep asking ourself, how can this happen Mr. President?  We look at each other and just think of the right thing.  But you look for an excuss. 

 Are we ready for your double talk?  I can not see how anyone in this country can even think of your justice system as an honor to serve.  How could you do this? 

I hang my head when I think of all the crap I had to endure working on the southern border.  The lies, the disregard for employees, the family of these officers who have given up so much.  The message you send to each of us is to give up.

 Your not much of a man, let alone a president.  I hope you pay for all your awful years you have lead this country and the lies you have cast on the public. 

Let everyone remember you as spineless and a deeply troubled man. 

Bring our troops home NOW!!! Give them 90 days R&R then re-deploy them on our southern border!! The invasion from the south poses a much greater threat to our nation than Iraq ever has......

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Sutton was the Criminal Justice Policy Director for Bush when he was Governor of Tx and Policy Coordinator for the Bush-Chaney Transition Team. With these close ties, it is doubtful Bush will grant the agents a pardon since in doing so he would be going against Sutton who he appointed as US District Attorney.

Bush wants an open border as part of the North American Community already being put into motion with our tax dollars. He talks of tightening the border but that is only to give lip service to Americans. Our country is being taken over all the while most of our elected officials close a blind eye.

In order to stop this love affair between Bush, elected officials and Mexico, we have to support a presidential candidate that is a true American such as Tancredo, that will enforce our immigration laws and secure our border.

 

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?doc... face="Courier New" size="2" color="#0000ff">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265&q=roy

I wonder if our President has watched this video.  Maybe if he did he would stand behind our Border Patrol and not on top of them.

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The only process for a pardon is to direct your secretary to type one and sign it, Mr. President. Who do you think your kidding.

In his monthly newsletter, my Congressman, Richard Baker, representing the Baton Rouge area , announced he has signed house bill HR 563. He said this bill will (?) force a pardon for the two agents.

Has anyone else heard of this bill?     LSU Fan   

I did an online search for HR 563 and found nothing even remotely near what you were told. Perhaps he's relying on no one double checking what he's telling them.........

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