they let this expire:

that just goes to show you how much what the people think really matters. DON'T KNOW ABOUT YA'LL but me and mine will vote the suckers that let this happen right out on their duffs

I happen to agree with msvet.  If I had my druthers, I'd love to see every one of them voted out right now, rather than some now and some in the next few years.  We need fresh thinking, clear-minded, for-the-people representatives in our government....not power-driven or money-driven fools.

Why waste resources on a petition for a deed that is already done. Why not start a campaign on removing any congressman or senator that has supported any of the illegal alien scams.

Why not do something to give bush a legasy of screwing Americans while giving our resources to illegal Mexicans, or being derelict of his duties as president as far as the Constitution, Art4, sect.4.

Why not give that nasty, ugly Texas senator the "Green Weenie" award for this century for screwing Americans out of their heritage. 

Apparently, McCain is unaware of these provisions because today he sent a response to an email I sent him on border security and he still thinks the fence is going to be built by October 2011. Here is the meat of his email: "As you probably know, the Secure Fence Act of 2006, P.L. 109-367, directs the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to provide and install 700 miles of reinforced fencing along our southern border. I voted for the Secure Fence Act, which passed the Senate by a vote of 80-19 on September 29, 2006. It was signed into law on October 26, 2006. According to the DHS Secretary, the fencing initiative is scheduled to be completed by October 2011. "We need to ensure the Department of Homeland Security has all the resources it needs for border security. That is why I have cosponsored amendments to the Department of Homeland Security Appropriations bill and the Department of Defense Appropriations bill that would add an additional $3 billion in emergency funding for border security. These amendments were included in the Fiscal Year 2008 Omnibus appropriations measure. This legislation, which provides $1.2 billion for border security fencing and $3 billion in emergency funding for border security, passed the full Senate on December 18, 2007. It was signed into law on December 26, 2007. "In addition to putting more assets along the border, we need to improve interior enforcement and put employers on notice that the practice of hiring illegal workers is unacceptable and that law breakers will be prosecuted. Both interior enforcement and border security are addressed extensively in S. 1984, the Immigration Enforcement and Border Security Act of 2007, which I joined Senators Kyl, Cornyn, Graham, Martinez, Sessions, and Specter in introducing on August 2, 2007. This legislation has been referred to the Senate Finance Committee." Is he just out of the loop or ignorant? That's his story and he's sticking to it!

What happened to this nation in the past 3 - 4 years?  Bush's second term is a nightmare.  He has pretty much done a 180 degree turn and I for one am not liking it!!!  He and other communist-like elected officials in our country, Canada and Mexico are attempting to sell the American Nation down the river by trying to blend three North American countries into one.   We have to stop this now - the ramifications are dreadful...  LET'S FIND THE LEADERS WHO ARE STILL RED BLOODED AMERICANS and back them up.  I would go down to the border and volunteer my time to get the Border Fence project done.  Not a little whimpy fence but a big bad guy of a fence.  The bleeding has to stop people - and the sooner the better.

Bring ALL of our men and women home from iraq and station
them on OUR border! Hell, they would still require 'combat
pay' but, at least they would be on OUR shores, protecting
OUR lives and rights!

I live in Yuma AZ and am going to join the Minuteman to help build the fence or do what ever I can do to help them in anyway that I can. I will vote for McCain but he is NOT the one I want in office. He is just the best out of 3. So sad. It is time that we as Americans stand up and DO something and not just talk about any more. I agree that we should start by voting everyone out of office NOW. If they have not heard us by this time then they are NOT going to hear us ever. Our oil comes from Mexico so they feel they have a say in our county. Lets take it back.

IT WASNT LONG AGO WE HAD A REVOLUTION OVER TEA BEING TAXED . IT WAS CALLED THE BOSTON TEA PARTY . WELL I REALLY THINK WE NEED ANOTHER REVOLUTION . BUT THIS TIME WE CAN CALL IT , TAKING BACK AMERICA PARTY .

What with The United Nations, NATO, NAFTA, WTO, CFR, The Federal Reserve & other factors, along with the fact that there are no predidential candidates left (since Ron Paul dropped out) that believe in a sovereign United States, its Constitution or Laws, we are in the beginning stages of our death throws.

The great plan (New, or One World Order) & the President's North American Union calls for no borders, so a fence doesn't even enter into the picture. 

The laws already on the books provide for what is needed, but they are not being followed. If we vote for something, & the courts disagree, because in their minds it takes away their control, they consider the item unconstitutional.

None of these problems are going to be fixed by faxes, letters or phone calls. They're not interested in what the people want or believe in, if it goes against their goals.

Taxing us more money. Taxing us on more things. The rising prices of gas & diesel. The rising prices of heating fuel. of food, of electricity, and everything else that's interconnected. 

Our jobs going overseas. No borders. Our hard earned money being given to support illegals & their causes, education & welfare. To support (forever) people in government. To support pet projects that we don't have a say about. Nearly nothing is produced here anymore.

The United Nations has been pushing the United States to take away its citizen's right to keep & bear arms. Why is it any concern of theirs, they don't live here. Could it be that they plan on being here in the near future, & an armed citizenry could be a threat to their plans?! 

Gun & ammo control from our own politicians. More of our so called "rights" being dwindled away daily. We are being turned into a third world country, & shortly will have no "rights" at all.

It's happened before elsewhere. It's happening elswhere now. It's happening HERE now.  

Lord, have mercy on US... 

 

 

The building of a fence or wall whether physical of with monitors and sensors is a waste of time.   We have X-million illegal immigrants in this Country which are being protected and led down the rosey trail to stay here forever the three candidates, LULAC, ACLU, etc.  The only thing that will put fear into the Illegals are the workplaces.  Why do you think the local Courts are tying up cases in the System?  They know that once Feds or State auditors go over the payroll of a company the Illegals will flee like cockroaches.  The surrounding States of Texas are tightening the loopholes and they are fleeing to Texas.  The Housing industry is slowing down to a crawl.  The way the economy is performing Illegals can't survive on Walmart salary, or collecting garbage, or landscaping.  If the Feds start hitting companies that don't file payroll returns, or have more workers than their books show that is one loophole being shut down.  The Fine is $10,000 for each unexplained worker's name.  If they don't take care of the problem they get shut down.  Immigrants don't get the complete picture.  Either become a citizen or be recognized as a Non-Resident.  Either way they have to file income tax.  If they want benefits they have to pay taxes.  The Media refuses to come out and admit that the increase in failed mortgages are houses that were given to Illegals by Bank of America and Wells Fargo.  Give less than a year the number of foreclosers will increase dramatically.

But, a fence is not the answer.  Take the fight to the Courts and to the companies that hire the Illegals.

Why would the Feds want to build a fence now.  After Pres. Bush signed the North American Union Proposal to eliminate the borders with Mexico, America, and Canada, the borders will be eliminated in the future.  Our soverignity is being sold out along with the American Constitution, and the American Dollar bill, which will become the Amero.  It is just a matter of time before the Unions of the World will be solidified and a One World Govermnent will be set in place. 

The more clearly I see what those people who "represent" us are actually doing, the greater the feeling I get that as American citizens we need to just plain shut down Washington, clean house of all those lying, backstabbing commie rats and start all over again.  There is almost nothing left in America that they havn't sold down the river for their personal profit.  And that includes indoctrination of our children in "Socialist think" school systems guided by United Nations agendas.   The subversion of  the Nation throught "education" and "sustainable" or "Green" policies also sponsored and backed by the UN, the outright control of our politics and parties by outside international power brokers who rig the elections with their brought and paid for politicians, on both sides. Who  insure that no matter who wins the election, the new "team" will belong to them and not the American people.   Legitimate candidates like Ron Paul are shut out of the running deliberately, and those candidates who have been bought, are supported by the media and given the "nod" of approval.  No wonder why it always seems that after election, the Republicans and Democrats in office seem pretty much the same....They are.  Fence? they don't care about the fence...  They are trying to give up the sovereignty of the Nation without anybody noticing until it is too late.... Does the NAFTA Super Highway ring any bells? How long will we keep believeing in the charade?

 Do you believe it will take people long to demand the "Amero" to replace the Dollar after Bernake and the International Federal Reserve turn the dollar into toilet paper?  Americans will be crying out for relief.  How convienient and timely,  just what the UN, the New World Order proponents and the Communists of the world want to see..... The end of America and all that we stand for.   Sold.  Down the toilet... and all the men and women who died for it?  What do you say about them?  Erase them from the record of History?  Have we sold our very souls to appease snakes and liars?   Do we have the courage to answer, as a nation?  As an American?  I challenge you, stand!

I'm with Mary Jane. As a teacher in Arizona, I plan to join the Minutemen once I retire! Related to the border fence, if you haven't yet ordered a DVD copy of "BORDER" from grassfire.org, I suggest you do so. My family watched it twice and now my extended family in Iowa has possession of it. My parents (my dad served in World War II) watched it last week and expressed their disbelief and anger! My 78 year old mother wants to purchase a copy! As an Arizonan, I've tried for the past few years to educate my family members and others - most don't want to be bothered!!!!! This country lost all hope when voters failed to support Tom Tancredo for Presidential nominee!!! to SaveSovereigntyNow - good to have you here at firesociety! I receive form letters from McCain's office on a regular basis. In his letters, he continues to state that he does NOT support amnesty! I really don't think there's any hope from him! I, too, am ashamed to admit that a revolution may be our only hope - and with that, only a tiny bit of hope! New f.s. members, please visit grassfire.org and sign the petition to get the border fence built! http://www.grassfire.org/242/petition...

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A fence is good, it is at least one step that should be a part of getting down to business with this issue but it is not the end of all, the total answer, the majic bullet that will fix the problem...We need to approach this problem from every side...  How about this.  Make it known, announce to the country that:

1.  If you are here illegally, you must leave now.  You will be given one month to leave, gracefully, under your own power.

2.  We are not going to round anyone up and transport them back home.  They must find their own way home, the same way they they managed to arrive here. 

3.  After one month, anyone found to be here illegally, is to be taken to the beach and given the privilege of swimming home, gracefully or just treading water for as long as they wish.   There will not be any paddeling back to shore allowed. 

4. In a couple of months the problem will be gone.  It will not cost any American Taxpayer any extra expense.    We will have regained our country and demonstrated our legetimate right to our national sovereinty for all to see.  I would guess that we will regain a little respect also....

I think the Sunset on the Border Fence when the "deal" was made to build the SUPER HIGHWAY from Mexico to Canada that I have been hearing about.  What would they need with a fence on the border when there won't be any border?  The people of American need to be told the truth about what is really going on.  I am so tired of all this deal making without even Congress's oversight, so they say.  Who knows the real story???????

If you've seen the "Border" movie, you'll believe we need a FENCE! Unfortunately, the movie lacks the real violence that takes place at the border! I favor a two-tier fence with a 100 foot crevice in between. Perhaps a moat like they're suggesting near Yuma, Arizona. http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p... Deportation with our open border doesn't do much to solve the problem. Many illegals have been deported two, five, even twenty times and they continue to enter the U.S. illegally!

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So why are we at FS not surprised by this?  Come on be honest-we expected this and as I have stated here in the past  our government had no intentions of protecting the american citizens from all the crime, and lawlessness pouring over our southern border.

Lawmakers who allowed this to happen should be tried for Sedition.

Laws are not worth the paper they are printed on without enforcement and there is where the government has failed miserably.  Volumnes of laws are no good, new laws are no good and we are seeing first hand ANARCHY at its finest.

WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' FENCE!!

These federal felons are non-uniformed illegal combatants. Thay didn't come here to live the American Dream. They came here to steal it. They came with the knowledge and support of a foriegn power. If we were invaded from any other quarter, every man, woman and child would be expected to pick up a gun, a stick or a hand full of rocks and repel borders. The security of our Southern borders requires a two-fold approach

1. Send body bags to the border.

2. Fill them.

NO AMNESTY EVER!

What other CRIME can you comit, where someone care about your children or family. Send them back or bury them.

In reply to SaveSovereigntyNow,  "is he [McCain] just out of the loop or ignorant?" 

He is not out of the loop, he is lying and showing us that he thinks we are ignorant. He thinks that we do not remember his position on open borders and amnesty, or hopes that if he tells the same lie often enough it will become the truth. McCain has absolutely no conscience. He is the perfect example of a power driven, unconscionable, morally corrupt, Bureuacrat, with such an overblowen sense of entitlement he can't even see himself.

I wish there were a way to impeach his run for the Presidency.

The message has been sent loud and clear to the congress of these United States that the people want border security....keep them out of America...and that they (the illegals) should never have amnesty, but our government is not listening to the American citizens anymore, we are NO LONGER A NATION WHOSE GOVERNMENT IS OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE. 

NO, our crooked politicians are still trying to get out of building the fence.  They want the illegals in our country.  What is it with the dipsticks in government anyway? 

Well let me tell you something.  I'm not giving up yet.  I am sending everyone in my email address book that lives in the U.S. the message that if they want to lose their freedoms and if they want big government to continue to have their way; then sit back on your sweet tushes and keep your mouths shut.Then when our kids and grandkids are living in filth because of the mass invasions from Mexico, when they can no longer make good enough wages to have a well fed and clothed family because the illegals have gotten the higher paying jobs; you best tell your kids you did nothing to stop the process just the same as we did nothing to stop Madeline Murray O'Hare from getting prayer and God kicked out of our schools.    Tanc4prez is right.  If you saw the Border movie you'd know that we don't want this filth in our country.   The economy is suffering enough already without adding more illegals that will get more handouts.  Our government officials already jail the border patrol for doing their jobs and they let illegals go free.  Illegals that are drug smugglers and runners.  DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT... look how far it's gone already. 

I wish you all well...and if I may I want to remind you what The Bible says about this mess we are in.  Pharaphrased:  "If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and call on Me and pray, I shall hear from Heaven and will heal their land.

 GOD BLESS AMERICA